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pnwmom

(110,324 posts)
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 06:23 PM Jul 2023

Trump faces additional charges of obstruction of justice, retention (W/superseding indictment)

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Last edited Thu Jul 27, 2023, 07:08 PM - Edit history (3)

Source: St Louis Post Dispatch Today

Donald Trump asked a staffer to delete camera footage at his Florida estate in an effort to obstruct the federal investigation into his possession of classified documents, according to an updated indictment unsealed Thursday that adds new charges against the former president and names an additional defendant.

The indictment includes new counts of obstruction and willful retention of national defense information, compounding Trump's legal jeopardy even as he braces for a possible additional indictment in Washington over his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. The additional counts underscore the extent of the yearlong investigation into Trump that first produced charges last month in the form of a 38-count indictment against Trump and his valet, Walt Nauta.

A Trump spokesperson dismissed the new charges as "nothing more than a continued desperate and flailing attempt" by the Biden administration "to harass President Trump and those around him" and to influence the 2024 presidential race.

Read more: https://www.stltoday.com/news/nation-world/government-politics/trump-faces-additional-charges-of-obstruction-of-justice-willful-retention-of-classified-documents-in-florida/article_b1e6e5e1-4f71-5525-a61f-30cd02250f24.html



The reporter makes this comment at the end of the article: "It marks a notable shift in the prosecution’s approach to Trump’s case, charging him for retaining a document it alleges the former president knew was highly sensitive after he left office — and not just for failing to return it to the government when asked."


The superseding indictment can be found below. The first mention I see of defendant De Oliveira is on page 24, when he helps Nauta carry boxes.

Bottom of page 28: De Oliveira asks Trump Employee #5 not to tell anyone Nauta was "coming down" because that trip was supposed to be kept secret. Page 29, Nauta wanted De O' to ask Trump employee #4 how long security footage was kept. On June 29th, Nauta and De O' walked through the tunnel and pointed out surveillance cameras. Later that night, De O' had a private conversation regarding the security cameras with Trump Employee #4, which he asked to remain secret. He asked how many days the footage was retained on the server, was told it was about 45 days -- and then said "the boss" wanted the server deleted! Trump employee #4 said he told De O' that he should reach out to a Trump security supervisor, and De O' insisted that "the boss" wanted the server deleted.

On page 30, Trump reaches out through Trump employee #5 to ask if De O' is loyal. On hearing that he was, Trump called De O' and said he'd get him an attorney.

https://www.stltoday.com/news/nation-world/government-politics/trump-faces-additional-charges-of-obstruction-of-justice-willful-retention-of-classified-documents-in-florida/article_b1e6e5e1-4f71-5525-a61f-30cd02250f24.html
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Trump faces additional charges of obstruction of justice, retention (W/superseding indictment) (Original Post) pnwmom Jul 2023 OP
Pile it on MOMFUDSKI Jul 2023 #1
Heh Novara Jul 2023 #2
Jack Hammer! Marthe48 Jul 2023 #3
Now we're talking! Blue Owl Jul 2023 #4
Yeah! Marthe48 Jul 2023 #5
Double Yeah! MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2023 #13
Burn him to the water line. paleotn Jul 2023 #6
It's Christmas in July. We get presents and Chump got another lump of coal. Hassler Jul 2023 #7
Absolutely delicious! Each drop of truth is like coals burning on TFG's head. Let the trials begin! keopeli Jul 2023 #8
Badda BING badda bing bang Leghorn21 Jul 2023 #9
"Trump called De Oliveira and said he'd get him an attorney." Good luck with Mr. De Botany Jul 2023 #10
Why would Trump want evidence destroyed if he thought it belonged to him? Mr. Ected Jul 2023 #11
Why would Trump want to destroy video of the FBI planting the documents? ...nt Jarqui Jul 2023 #12
Will this be part of the Florida trial or will it be a new trial? Kablooie Jul 2023 #14
It's part of that trial -- just expands it to include an additional defendant and more charges. nt pnwmom Jul 2023 #16
Just bdamomma Jul 2023 #15
30 months and counting republianmushroom Jul 2023 #17
Locking thread MustLoveBeagles Jul 2023 #18
 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
1. Pile it on
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 06:25 PM
Jul 2023

Jack!

Novara

(6,115 posts)
2. Heh
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 06:27 PM
Jul 2023

I bet they try to get that guy to flip and tell them he was instructed by the orange pustule to flood the server room.

Marthe48

(23,436 posts)
3. Jack Hammer!
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 06:28 PM
Jul 2023

n/t

Blue Owl

(59,618 posts)
4. Now we're talking!
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 06:40 PM
Jul 2023

Marthe48

(23,436 posts)
5. Yeah!
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 07:03 PM
Jul 2023

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,742 posts)
13. Double Yeah!
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 08:02 PM
Jul 2023

paleotn

(22,727 posts)
6. Burn him to the water line.
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 07:16 PM
Jul 2023

Make him blow millions on legal defense and still get convicted.

Hassler

(4,961 posts)
7. It's Christmas in July. We get presents and Chump got another lump of coal.
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 07:24 PM
Jul 2023

keopeli

(3,582 posts)
8. Absolutely delicious! Each drop of truth is like coals burning on TFG's head. Let the trials begin!
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 07:28 PM
Jul 2023

Leghorn21

(14,113 posts)
9. Badda BING badda bing bang
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 07:28 PM
Jul 2023
BOOM!!!

The last 48 hours have been the

BEST EVER!!!!

Botany

(77,851 posts)
10. "Trump called De Oliveira and said he'd get him an attorney." Good luck with Mr. De
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 07:29 PM
Jul 2023

Mr. Ected

(9,714 posts)
11. Why would Trump want evidence destroyed if he thought it belonged to him?
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 07:37 PM
Jul 2023

This goes to mens rea. Trump is toast.

Jarqui

(10,924 posts)
12. Why would Trump want to destroy video of the FBI planting the documents? ...nt
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 07:52 PM
Jul 2023

Kablooie

(19,121 posts)
14. Will this be part of the Florida trial or will it be a new trial?
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 08:05 PM
Jul 2023

Anyone have thoughts?

pnwmom

(110,324 posts)
16. It's part of that trial -- just expands it to include an additional defendant and more charges. nt
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 08:17 PM
Jul 2023

bdamomma

(69,626 posts)
15. Just
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 08:09 PM
Jul 2023

put that ass in jail.

republianmushroom

(22,692 posts)
17. 30 months and counting
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 08:22 PM
Jul 2023

MustLoveBeagles

(17,231 posts)
18. Locking thread
Thu Jul 27, 2023, 09:23 PM
Jul 2023

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