Putin says Russia does not reject talks with Ukraine

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Source: Reuters

Reuters
July 29, 20236:51 PM EDT Updated 3 hours ago

July 29 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Saturday that an African initiative could be a basis for peace in Ukraine but that Ukrainian attacks made it hard to realise.

He was speaking at a press conference after meeting African leaders in St Petersburg on Friday and hearing their calls for Moscow to move ahead with their plan.

"There are provisions of this peace initiative that are being implemented," he said. "But there are things that are difficult or impossible to implement."

Reporting by Reuters Editing by Alistair Bell

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Zelensky is right....and Putin should be in the Hague....

[relayerbob]

1. He says whatever he thinks gives him the most mileage

[Deuxcents]

2. He could have stopped this a long time ago. In fact..

He never had to attack Ukraine in the first place. He’s a madman whose dream was a nightmare from the beginning.

[Ford_Prefect]

3. Which of course means he categorically denies interest in any talks about Ukraine.

[LudwigPastorius]

4. Putin can get fucked.

His attempt to create mass starvation in Africa is plainly to amp up the pressure for Ukraine to cede land and keep him out of prison.

Just add it to the list of crimes against humanity that ghoul has already committed.

[SouthernDem4ever]

5. +1

The asshole thinks he has the right to commit war crimes and think it should be negotiated?

[cstanleytech]

6. Any talks should end with Russia withdrawing it's troops and paying reparations to Ukraine and

turning over any Russian citizens that committed war crimes for trial at the Hague.

[AZLD4Candidate]

7. I'll stop beating my spouse if my spouse stops running into my fist. Same logic.

[TomWilm]

8. Yes. Peace negotiations is done with the war criminals themselves ...

... because they are the only ones who can stop the war crimes from continuing. Unless you have the very rare situations, where a Hitler is actually fully defeated in his own capitol.

In Northern Ireland formerly bitter rivals negotiated a fragile peace deal in the late 1990s, which proved sustainable and remains in force. Nobody got it quite as they wanted - but killing, terror and unrest stopped, and was replaced by security and increased welfare. The tensions over the divided Ireland persist, but now mostly as political discussions, which continuously lead to new negotiated agreements between the parties.

Though the situation with Russia's brutal war seems far away from such good solutions, this will be what will happen - or no one will survive.

[RandySF]

9. What is there to negotiate?

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The Russians can have peace today if they just leave.

[paleotn]

15. A negotiated peace where Putin gets ANYTHING he didn't own on Feb 23, 2022 is appeasement.

We all know where that leads, even if some of us don't want to admit it.

[RandySF]

16. Try before 2014.

[paleotn]

18. Even better.

[cstanleytech]

10. Or the Russians will simply give up which they did a few decades ago in Afghanistan like we did

there as well as in Vietnam.

[TomWilm]

17. Even if Russia should give up, there will still be negotiations

Good point about Afghanistan. The US and it's coalition forces left in 2021, after years of unfilled promises about bringing freedom. Left without good negotiations, just leaving the population in the hands of oppressors even more evil than Putin's soldiers. There was an agreement with the US, signed by the very force the US had been trying to fight for decades, the Taliban. And now the Taliban and the US are cooperating in providing US humanitarian assistance to the country...

Russia might give up in Ukraine, but even that will be followed with negotiations. It always are, because even "enemies" has to agree on living together in this world. Russia and Ukraine are still cooperating on exporting Russian gas and oil through Ukrainian pipelines to the West, since they both are making big money on that trade!

Biden is also trying to restart negotiations with North Korea. He even is succeeding in making deals with the Republicans, because he knows to do what is necessary.

[cstanleytech]

20. It still pisses me off that the Republicans forced the US to remain in Afghanistan.

I could see hitting the Al-Qaeda bases there since the goverment in charge of Afghanistan was granting them a safe haven but we should have withdrawn as soon as that was done rather than try to force a change in government upon the people there.
Instead the Republicans were determined to keep us there and it cost the lives of so many US soldiers not to mention wasting billions upon billions of taxpayer monies.

[RandySF]

11. There's nothing to negotiate.

Any deal that cedes land to Russia is a victory for Putin.

[MrWowWow]

12. Oh They. Say I Am a War Criminal...

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[marble falls]

13. He does not reject peace talks. He refuses to engage in good faith in peace talks.

[cstanleytech]

21. Exactly as good faith would see him agreeing right now to withdraw all Russian troops back

into Russias borders and that includes withdrawing from Crimea.

[paleotn]

14. Abuser blaming the victim.

Oh sure we'd have peace if Ukraine would simply stop resisting. Oh, hell no!

[PortTack]

19. Of course they don't...just give russia everything they want and they'll talk

Ukraine and all of NATO know he will not stop and must be stopped.

Slava Ukraine!