Biden has decided to keep Space Command in Colorado, rejecting move to Alabama, officials tell AP

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: AP

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Joe Biden has decided to keep U.S. Space Command headquarters in Colorado, overturning a last-ditch decision by the Trump administration to move it to Alabama and ending months of politically fueled debate, according to senior U.S. officials.

The officials said Biden was convinced by the head of Space Command, Gen. James Dickinson, who argued that moving his headquarters now would jeopardize military readiness. Dickinson’s view, however, was in contrast to Air Force leadership, who studied the issue at length and determined that relocating to Huntsville, Alabama, was the right move.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the decision ahead of the announcement.

The president, they said, believes that keeping the command in Colorado Springs would avoid a disruption in readiness that the move would cause, particularly as the U.S. races to compete with China in space. And they said Biden firmly believes that maintaining stability will help the military be better able to respond in space over the next decade.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/space-command-biden-colorado-alabama-382b12b57733848fd1d083227aefa0bf

[leftieNanner]

1. And a Double Bonus!

F*** You Tubberville!

That is all.

[ananda]

2. My sentiments exactly!

!

[Cha]

3. Yes, TY Pres Biden, Good on Colorado &

FAFO, tuberfuckup.

[moniss]

10. Amen to that

so they can thank that moron for helping to make the decision easier. On a realistic basis it would be irresponsible to locate an important Federal facility in a state that has demonstrated an open willingness and support for having their elected representatives engage in hostage taking regarding personnel aspects that directly impact on that facility.

The media as usual plays favorites with how they characterize certain people who routinely come up for coverage. For this guy it is always about him being a former football coach and they leave it at that. They do not report on his history of being involved in scam investments or his "charitable foundation" for veterans which in most years appears to have spent very little on vets compared to what they brought in and is now "being reworked" after various financial filings didn't come close to matching what was reported to the IRS. So we only see "football coach" attached to him rather than "involved in shady financial dealings". Remember how they always characterize Bob Menendez from New Jersey? That's just the quickest example that comes to mind.

[leftieNanner]

21. Thanks for the reminder

I had forgotten what a jerk Tommy is.

And to think they dumped the remarkable Doug Jones for this moron, who doesn't even know what the three branches of government are!

[moniss]

30. Alabama

like so many of the other states of the Old South have spent a lot of time in the '80's on up trying to tell the rest of the country they weren't "that" anymore. They made changes to the words they used in public but "that" has always been there and has not gone away. The rise of the Tea Party etc. enabled "that" to regain dominance. It is not so much that they love the Orange Ruski for foreign policy etc. it is far more that he encourages them to let "that" proudly fly at all times and as President he took actions, such as at the border, that made them feel good because some of the ones they focus their hate on were having horrible things inflicted upon them. Another example is their dislike of affirmative action. That goes back a long way and it is ridiculous to think that some blue collar guy in central Alabama cares whether a black guy goes to Harvard. It is really about being angry the courts and society had moved along and the old system of "that" made changes in their states and on their TV screens and in their schools. They want "that" back and will blindly support anything or anybody who they think will help. Their embrace of authoritarianism and worship of people like Erdogan and Putin is because they desperately want "that" to be the way it is and they know that a dictator type could make it happen whereas normal policy debates and elections would take time and the outcome would be uncertain. They want to go back to "that" so badly they will turn a blind eye to the wholesale destruction of normal debate, legislation and jurisprudence of any kind. Just so long as somehow "that" comes back allowing them to discriminate and hate and makes them feel good, powerful and in control over others again.

[leftieNanner]

32. "that" is one excellent post

But they don't seem to realize that going back to "that" would have a negative impact on everyone.

Too bad the post civil war era didn't punish them.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

67. General Sherman

should have marched back and forth a few more times and deemed all plantations military targets suitable for troop barracks and subsequent burning.

[Duncan Grant]

39. Scorching critique. +1 (eom)

[electric_blue68]

51. Ooooo, 😄 well said on a very serious issue!

[cactusfractal]

61. +1 n/t

[The Wizard]

64. Nailed it.

They still want to own slaves as slavery is one of their traditional values.

[JustAnotherGen]

73. Excellent Analysis !

Land owner in Alabama and two other states (Legacy Family Agribusiness) -

My dad left the military and my parents settled in Rochester. He refused to to a k home.

I Remember being denied service at a Dairy Queen in Talladega when I was five.

That was 1978.

[usaf-vet]

42. That was all that was needed to make my day!

[Deminpenn]

74. Yep, a nice side benefit

😆

[Cha]

4. TY & Pres Biden, BRDS!

Cheers to Colorado!

[Zorro]

5. Space Command is already well-established in Colorado Springs

Would be a tremendous waste of money to move to Huntsville.

Huntsville already has a major NASA facility. It's in the government's best interest to keep civilian and military space activities at arm's length.

[Alexander Of Assyria]

49. China apparently is the new kid on the block for any argument needing a lift.

Space race with China? When did that happen? They still using giant white balloons with no transmitters!

[reACTIONary]

53. The PRC is very serious about becoming a space fairing county...

... and is rapidly advancing in that capability.

That in itself is would not be a threat but for the fact that space has become a contested region, and the PRC is in it to contest it. This became evident in 2007, when the PRC successfully conducted an ASAT interception test that destroyed one of their weather satellites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Chinese_anti-satellite_missile_test

[FSogol]

6. Added bonus: Colorada Springs is 5,452 feet closer to space than Huntsville. Think of the time

savings!

[FemDemERA]

11. Lol!

Thank you for my first out loud laugh of the day!

[3auld6phart]

44. Goodpoint

[moniss]

65. Colorado is also

preferred by the aliens. Thinner air is easier to lift off their alien craft. In addition to the legal weed.

[LastDemocratInSC]

7. Richard Shelby, the recently retired Senator from Alabama

was pushing for the Space Command to relocate. He applied a lot of pressure on the military to do so.

[peppertree]

16. For people who hate the 'Union' as much as they do, these neo-Confederates LOVE Federal pork

I lived in Mi'ssippi for years.

The Republicans there bitched about "California and the damn Yankees" to anyone they though would hear them.

Yet half their state budget in Federally-funded. Fine schools like Ole Miss (especially) would be nothing but community colleges but for Washington's largesse.

[Piratedog]

8. Biden should start moving stuff OUT of Alabama.

It won’t follow scotus rulings. It takes more resources than it produces. It oppresses women.

Fuck Alabama.

Sorry to those of you who live there.

[Duppers]

24. Yes.

[SouthernDem4ever]

46. I agree

They are becoming too anarchistic to trust with important federal agencies. Just like the repuglican party.

[Stuckinthebush]

72. I live in Alabama

I agree! If T Tubs wants to play politics with the military, then the military might not be best suited to stay in Alabama.

Also, how can this administration knowingly relocate personnel to a state that bans reproductive health care for women? They can't and shouldn't. Good non move, Joe!

[Augiedog]

9. Alabama doesn't believe in America anyway so.....

[DURHAM D]

12. The President needs to imply it is Senator Tubby's fault.

[ToxMarz]

18. I don't think he does

Everyone that would understand what he is even implying has already made the connection. I think saying nothing about it (and we don't know for a fact that has anything to do with it) speaks much louder.

[2naSalit]

13. Especially since mr tatertot is...

Preventing the military from doing anything, I find it a fitting move. Why should state reap economic benefit from the installation of a facility that is part of a large component of government which he is actively trying to destroy?

Fuck him and anyone who voted for him.

[republianmushroom]

14. I like it

[ancianita]

15. Good news. Thanks!

[generalbetrayus]

17. "Officials also argued that any new headquarters in Alabama would not be completed

until sometime after 2030, forcing a lengthy transition."

By 2030, Alabama may have seceded from the Union again. And Colorado Springs is in a deeply red Congressional district, so it's not like the Republicans are getting screwed by keeping the headquarters in the Springs. Tommy Tubberware can go to Hell.

[niyad]

20. geez, did lamborn the lump actually speak up or somehing?

[niyad]

19. I guess we are stuck with them, then.Oh well, not like they are the only military

installation around here.

[generalbetrayus]

22. The last time the military complex in Colorado Springs was threatend

was back in the 80s when there was talk of Fort Carson being closed down. The city fathers responded to that threat by inviting in every hateful evangelical Christian group it could find to set up shop in the city. That worked out so well.

[niyad]

35. And Amendment Two had what was left of our tech industries packing their bags.

[hildegaard28]

23. Nobody smart

Wants to be forced to move to Alabama.

[Marthe48]

25. tommy fafo

Hoping that because of tommy, Alabama suffers a setback for every military person he has held back for his own narrow-minded worldview.

Or setbacks can be shared out to every r senator who are letting this crap flow.

[TeamProg]

26. Well, the best educated people are NOT going to want LIVE in FUCKING ALABAMA !! nt

[orangecrush]

43. +1

[Mr.Bill]

45. There's quite a few of them there

working for NASA.

[TeamProg]

48. You didn't say they wanted to be there in AL though.. given a choice?

[Dulcinea]

81. You're right.

Huntsville, AL, has one of the highest concentrations of highly educated people in the nation. There are plenty of space companies located there near the US Space & Rocket Center, NASA included. (My daughter is a student at UAH, studying math & physics, & she wants to work in space science.)

[Mr.Bill]

82. I think it was in the book The Right Stuff

that they said there were so many German rocket science people working there that the town had the nickname of Hunsville.

[patphil]

27. I think Colrado's intelligent abortion policy had something to do with it.

Beyond the idiocy of Tommy Tuberville.
A double dose of irony in that decision President Biden. Thank You.

[kimbutgar]

28. I know President Biden won't attack Tubberville and blame him

But the dots need to be connected that Tubby is endangering our forces and know his state is losing this base.

[calimary]

50. That doesn't mean WE have to do likewise.

[burrowowl]

29. GOOD!

[iluvtennis]

31. Oh yassss....it's a happy day.

[no_hypocrisy]

33. Dark Brandon strikes again!

[orangecrush]

41. +1

[Marthe48]

34. I'd like to see a cartoon showing a pregnant rocket ship

with a caption that she decided to stay in a pro-choice state.

[Paladin]

36. Eat shit and die, Tuberville! (nt)

[Wingus Dingus]

37. Excellent decision. Fuck Alabama.

[MOMFUDSKI]

38. The tub making 'bama

great again. Like it ever was. Drove thru Alabama some years back to change our route up to Wisconsin from Florida. It was so depressing. And the tub fully intends to keep it that way. Good job tubby

[orangecrush]

40. Good

[in2herbs]

47. I had read that there would be no move to Alabama bc of the state's position

on choice and the effect it would have on the female enlistees.

[electric_blue68]

52. Plus a nice Science Fiction angle staying in CO...

While not the Space Force for that reason -
Cheyanne Mountain housing NORAD is the
fictional site for the SF show Stargate that makes friends with other intelligent races in our galaxy, and defends Earth from Space Enemies. 👍

Good show, too. 👍 🙂

[colorado_ufo]

71. The Cheyenne Mountain facility is deeply protected.

Colorado is where the Space Command should be located, where they could quickly move in case of an emergency. The recent UAP hearing was not a joke and not science fiction. If anyone thinks it was, I would ask them if they would be willing to bet our national security on their opinion.

[electric_blue68]

77. Dang just lost my post, and tired Be back later 👍

[electric_blue68]

83. Your post was first thing I saw around 5:30P. I accidentally erased it, and Then a little indictment

thingie took all my attention away!


So back to my reply.
Oh, sure, I know Cheyenne Mountain is heavily defended, protected.

As for UFOs/UAPs...
I know most are mis-sightings, a few hoaxes.

And there maybe some that are inexplicable. Further there just might be a few that could be real.

Whether intelligent beings from elsewhere? I have a highly abstract capable mind, and I understand pretty well the vastness of our galaxy, let alone the Universe; could there be laws of physics, or mathematical constructs by quite more advanced societies that could breach these distances?

Could it be a dimensional travel? Semi intelligent Drones?
Is there a Galactic Society? Again the questionable vast time & distance overlap? Maybe a few societies connect instead.

I'm waiting for my hold for the book "In Plain Sight:...." to activate in 3 wks or so - do I can reread several sections.
It's by an Australian Journalist who ended up doing a deep investigation of the issue. The book is not that old, and covers the whole history. Also mentions Non-USA incidents. I read it early this year but had to rush through it.

It was experiences of several USA astronauts, and a few people knew them that appeared very serious that I particularly want to recheck.

[colorado_ufo]

84. Sounds like a good read!

[electric_blue68]

85. It is 👍

[NCjack]

54. Biden LBJ'd Tuberville. That's how to roll !!!

[clementine613]

55. Good. Now overturn Trump's criminal decision to create it in the first place.

Put it back in the Air Force where it belongs.

[area51]

56. +1

Nazis like to claim there's no money for universal healthcare; then we certainly don't have money for a Space Farce.

[Angleae]

57. That would take congress to do.

Trump didn't do it by himself.

[clementine613]

58. I have no problem charging the Rethug members of Congress with criminal charges on this.

n/t

[Angleae]

59. What charges?

It was no more illegal to create Space Force than it was to create the Air Force back in 1947.

[AverageOldGuy]

60. And a great big . . .

. . . middle finger to Tommy Tuberville!!!!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

62. Tuberville is pissed

This makes me smile

Link to tweet

[The Wizard]

63. Moving it to Alabama

continues Civil War reconstruction that should have ended 100 years ago. The slave states have been living off the taxes paid by Democratic / free states since 1866. Enough already. They've been brain poisoned by Pox News and hate radio to bite the hands that feed them. Let them get by without help from people they hate.
If anything, build the Trump wall a few of hundred miles north of Mexico. And while we're at it, let's cede Texas back to Mexico. Go ahead, flame me for saying mean things about the Confederacy.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

68. Fuck the Confederacy

Beau has a good video about this. While most of use are blaming Tubby, it was more about Force Readiness and how servicepeople would be treated off base and their rights restricted. If I was told your kids will have to attend a public school in Alabama. I'd be asking for a Tour elsewhere than south of the Mason-Dixon line.


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[Brenda]

79. Good Video! Thanks for posting. nt

[SomewhereInTheMiddle]

69. As a Democrat born and raised in Texas ...

... I will have to respectfully disagree with your Wall plan.

To be clear - screw the Confederacy and those that still think it exists or should exist. It is not heritage; it is a shameful part of our history.

But I think the 5,000,000+ Texans (to pick just one southern state) that voted for Biden in 2020 might feel a lack of support from their progressive Blue compatriots should others take up your rallying cry to kick them out of the country they love.

I understand your frustrations with the current crop of dunderheads elected to the various positions in these southern states. I share them. I just think that protecting voter rights, in the courts if necessary, and expanding voter participation are the more realistic solutions to the current crisis.

[Paladin]

70. +1000. (nt)

[Pinback]

76. + 11,780

with love from Georgia.

[Brenda]

80. Yep. And the millions of Black Americans who live in

Southern states don't appreciate all the yeehaw let's send in the troops to shut them down, cut off their assistance!

[Martin68]

66. Great move by Trump. Republicans in Colorado who lobbied for this are publicly praising the decision

Alabama was chosen by Trump just to trigger liberals.

[dlk]

75. When a senator takes a major dump on the military

He can’t expect special military favors.

[Kennah]

78. Alabama is a red state

And anyone who watched ST TOS knows how long a guy in a red shirt lasts