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BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 02:05 PM Aug 2023

Man killed during FBI raid in connection with threats against Biden, other officials

Source: ABC News

A Utah man was shot and killed during an FBI raid early Wednesday morning, the FBI confirmed to ABC News. The raid was in connection with an investigation into alleged threats against President Joe Biden and others, according to two officials briefed on the case.

One of the officials told ABC News that the investigation began in April and the U.S. Secret Service was notified by the FBI in June. In addition to threatening posts, the official said, the man under investigation suggested online he was making plans to take physical action. The threats had been deemed "credible," the official said.

The FBI in Salt Lake City said the shooting occurred around 6:15 am. local time while special agents attempted to serve arrest and search warrants at a residence in Provo.

"The FBI takes all shooting incidents involving our agents or task force members seriously," the FBI said in a statement. "In accordance with FBI policy, the shooting incident is under review by the FBI's Inspection Division. As this is an ongoing matter, we have no further details to provide." The deceased suspect was Craig Robertson, according to multiple sources and a federal complaint obtained by ABC News.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/man-killed-fbi-raid-connection-threats-biden-officials/story?id=102138966



Wednesday news dump!

Article updated.

Previous article -

A Utah man was shot and killed during an FBI raid early Wednesday morning, the FBI confirmed to ABC News. The raid was in connection with an investigation into alleged threats against President Joe Biden and others, according to two officials briefed on the case.

One of the officials told ABC News that the investigation began in April and the U.S. Secret Service was notified by the FBI in June. In addition to threatening posts, the official said, the man under investigation suggested online he was making plans to take physical action. The threats had been deemed "credible," the official said.

The FBI in Salt Lake City said the shooting occurred around 6:15 am. local time while special agents attempted to serve arrest and search warrants at a residence in Provo.

"The FBI takes all shooting incidents involving our agents or task force members seriously," the FBI said in a statement. "In accordance with FBI policy, the shooting incident is under review by the FBI's Inspection Division. As this is an ongoing matter, we have no further details to provide."



Original article -

A Utah man was shot and killed during an FBI raid early Wednesday morning, the FBI confirmed to ABC News. The raid was in connection with an investigation into alleged threats against President Joe Biden and others, according to two officials briefed on the case.


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Man killed during FBI raid in connection with threats against Biden, other officials (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 OP
Next thing, Republicans will put up the guy's brother as candidate for Congress peppertree Aug 2023 #1
And this guy will become the latest MAGA martyr... regnaD kciN Aug 2023 #19
No doubt about it peppertree Aug 2023 #54
Domestic terrorism is a much bigger danger than people are willing to admit IronLionZion Aug 2023 #2
It's a shame the FBI still doesn't take it that seriously Marius25 Aug 2023 #12
Too many don't want white people to be treated like brown people IronLionZion Aug 2023 #27
The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed Kennah Aug 2023 #3
I'm stealing that! N/T tonekat Aug 2023 #6
Share it widely, but I cannot claim credit Kennah Aug 2023 #9
Truly a metaphor for the ages Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #7
...often immediately followed by the Stark Fist of Removal. LudwigPastorius Aug 2023 #14
What the heck is that supposed to mean? One Jehovah? That's all that comes up in search. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2023 #18
Just Hit Very Hard overleft Aug 2023 #25
Praise Bob LudwigPastorius Aug 2023 #31
Love this! geardaddy Aug 2023 #62
A Utah man was shot and killed during an FBI raid ... threats against President Joe Biden Botany Aug 2023 #4
Good! One less whack job. tonekat Aug 2023 #5
👍 Rebl2 Aug 2023 #34
Oh good! wolfie001 Aug 2023 #8
Faux News moniss Aug 2023 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Hugh_Lebowski Aug 2023 #11
So is some right winger going to claim the FBI violated Utah Man's 1st amendment rights? DBoon Aug 2023 #13
His First AND Second Amendment rights, probably... regnaD kciN Aug 2023 #20
No. Mr.Bill Aug 2023 #35
Aw. What a pity. Let's think of something else instead. Who wants ice cream? Oopsie Daisy Aug 2023 #15
chocolate, with whipped cream. niyad Aug 2023 #59
If the deceased were from the Left, he would be described as anarchist, pinko, commie, Antifa bucolic_frolic Aug 2023 #16
Yoda weighs in Kennah Aug 2023 #17
Indeed. n/t iluvtennis Aug 2023 #23
This is going into my "Only one Party does this" file... Grins Aug 2023 #21
He opened fire and they returned same. Historic NY Aug 2023 #22
He probably couldn't hear them pounding on the door with 10 TVs tuned into Fox News 24/7 ffr Aug 2023 #24
Suicide by cop or died of stupidity. nt ImNotGod Aug 2023 #26
I'm going with stupidity with mercuryblues Aug 2023 #63
In the criminal complaint filed it seems he was turned in by a mod at Truth Social. herding cats Aug 2023 #28
That was a brave mod to actually be willing to do that BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #32
It surprised me, too. herding cats Aug 2023 #57
The idiot cannot spell, either. niyad Aug 2023 #45
Not exactly the surprise of the century. Aristus Aug 2023 #55
Provo - hotbed of militant Mormons... BlueIdaho Aug 2023 #29
How far is Provo from the Mountain Meadows massacre site? niyad Aug 2023 #39
258 miles per site shown on my search engine of choice Attilatheblond Aug 2023 #49
OMG!! This is the Facebook profile photo of Craig Deleeuw Robertson, shot and killed today in Utah b riversedge Aug 2023 #30
Just one of the masses wielding one of their 400 million guns...cause they can. Alexander Of Assyria Aug 2023 #40
Crazier than a shit house rat.... democratsruletheday Aug 2023 #61
Totally blinded by propaganda, probably thought the FBI was going to send him Warpy Aug 2023 #33
ummm, the investigation opened in April and the fbi notified the ss in June? niyad Aug 2023 #36
Based on this (from the OP) BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #44
Waving at agent mikey. It still seems to have taken a long time, but that is niyad Aug 2023 #46
herding cats had this image taken from the complaint BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #47
I looked him up on FB, etc. Appears his wife died in 2019 C Moon Aug 2023 #37
Awww Lemon Lyman Aug 2023 #38
Such a shame tom_kelly Aug 2023 #41
It's likely the RW will let this one slip down the memory hole. maxsolomon Aug 2023 #42
Wonder how many 24/7 RW propaganda sources it took to weaponize him. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2023 #43
Did you see the guy's photo...red faced and all puffed up? Ligyron Aug 2023 #48
One less asshole traitor. Rot in hell. Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #50
Darn. Hate that. paleotn Aug 2023 #51
Remember when you were a kid and they said to never even joke about threatening the president? Novara Aug 2023 #52
Their stupid made them "think" ExWhoDoesntCare Aug 2023 #56
Can't Wait to hear the Details.. TY! Cha Aug 2023 #53
Fucked around and found out Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2023 #58
Make stupid threats, win stupid prizes... DemocraticPatriot Aug 2023 #60

peppertree

(23,344 posts)
1. Next thing, Republicans will put up the guy's brother as candidate for Congress
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 02:07 PM
Aug 2023

And he'll probably win - just on that claim to fame.

regnaD kciN

(27,640 posts)
19. And this guy will become the latest MAGA martyr...
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 02:58 PM
Aug 2023

…just like what’s-her-name who got shot while trying to capture Pelosi on J6.

peppertree

(23,344 posts)
54. No doubt about it
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 07:20 PM
Aug 2023

They never let the facts get in the way of a good story - least of all when one of theirs gets shot.

(these, of course, are the same people who always call on others being shot)

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
12. It's a shame the FBI still doesn't take it that seriously
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 02:39 PM
Aug 2023

The MAGA movement should be labeled a domestic terrorist threat just like we label ISIS or Al Qaeda as terrorists.

IronLionZion

(51,271 posts)
27. Too many don't want white people to be treated like brown people
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 04:01 PM
Aug 2023

They love profiling as long as it's someone else being profiled.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
7. Truly a metaphor for the ages
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 02:28 PM
Aug 2023

Or a simile, or an analogy, or an idiom, or whatever it's properly called


Botany

(77,324 posts)
4. A Utah man was shot and killed during an FBI raid ... threats against President Joe Biden
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 02:25 PM
Aug 2023

Good

wolfie001

(7,667 posts)
8. Oh good!
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 02:28 PM
Aug 2023

Thoughts and prayers to the dead bastard. Not really. Let's talk about VOTING BLUE up and down the ballot!!!

moniss

(9,056 posts)
10. Faux News
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 02:32 PM
Aug 2023

will likely immediately declare the entire matter a conspiracy by Biden. They will claim the FBI violated his free speech rights.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

bucolic_frolic

(55,143 posts)
16. If the deceased were from the Left, he would be described as anarchist, pinko, commie, Antifa
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 02:43 PM
Aug 2023

But from the Right he is just a 'credible threat man'?

Grins

(9,459 posts)
21. This is going into my "Only one Party does this" file...
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:04 PM
Aug 2023

I started my "Only one Party does this" file/list a couple months ago.

I'm thinking of submitting it to the DU community to correct, verify, and add to it!

ffr

(23,399 posts)
24. He probably couldn't hear them pounding on the door with 10 TVs tuned into Fox News 24/7
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 03:35 PM
Aug 2023

And my guess was he'd already checked out of civil society decades ago at the point the second TV was tuned into a continuous stream of hate TV broadcasting.

herding cats

(20,049 posts)
57. It surprised me, too.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 08:08 PM
Aug 2023

It appears someone had alerted on the person prior to the moderator seeing it.

Who knew there were bridges too far at that site?!

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
29. Provo - hotbed of militant Mormons...
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 04:14 PM
Aug 2023

Fort Utah (Provo) has long been a hot bed of militant Mormon splinter groups like the Remnant Movement and the Doctrine of Christ movement. It’s important to remember Mormon violence there stretches back to the Fort Utah massacre of between 40 and 90 Native Americans by 90 Mormon Militiamen in 1850.

Nothing good ever happens in Provo… except maybe this.

Attilatheblond

(8,880 posts)
49. 258 miles per site shown on my search engine of choice
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 06:24 PM
Aug 2023

How far is Provo from the Mountain Meadows massacre site
duck duck go

Massacre site is a little northeast of St George which is near the far southwest corner of Utah. Provo is a bit south of Salt Lake City

riversedge

(80,814 posts)
30. OMG!! This is the Facebook profile photo of Craig Deleeuw Robertson, shot and killed today in Utah b
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 04:20 PM
Aug 2023



This is the Facebook profile photo of Craig Deleeuw Robertson, shot and killed today in Utah by FBI agents working the case on his threats to kill president Joe Biden, DA Alvin Bragg and others:


?s=20

Warpy

(114,616 posts)
33. Totally blinded by propaganda, probably thought the FBI was going to send him
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 04:31 PM
Aug 2023

to one of their internment camps so he picked up one of his guns, they'll never take him alive!

So they didn't.

This is just another way owning a gun and not securing it inside something that locks will get you killed.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
44. Based on this (from the OP)
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 05:14 PM
Aug 2023
In addition to threatening posts, the official said, the man under investigation suggested online he was making plans to take physical action. The threats had been deemed "credible," the official said.


With all the "threats" hurled against 45 here on DU, it reminded me of something I know you remember back in the day regarding "Agent Mike".

So it's a matter of determining whether it's just "keyboard warrior" stuff or actually making plans, maybe renting a car, buying extra weapons/ammunition, renting a hotel room nearby, etc., to go that next step. Plus herding cats mentioned in the thread that a mod on Truth Social apparently reported him - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3112067

So this triggered them to take it seriously and prepare for the "next step" (which requires all the stuff needed to go to a judge to get a search & arrest warrant), and then determine where he was, and serve those. He obviously "didn't comply".

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
47. herding cats had this image taken from the complaint
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 05:31 PM
Aug 2023


That threat message was done in March of this year, so it probably got to the FBI not long after, was screened, and was assigned to someone to run searches and get history, etc. And once they were sure it was "serious", they let the SS know. Apparently based on that image and assuming that "bio" shown in it for that account was close to truthful, the guy was Vietnam War vet so he probably already had some issues.

At this point, like we saw with Mar-a-lago, it took a couple months to be ready to serve the warrants once that first set of "notifications" went out to the SS.

C Moon

(13,643 posts)
37. I looked him up on FB, etc. Appears his wife died in 2019
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 04:51 PM
Aug 2023

Weird thing is on FB, there's a photo of him with his eyes closed. He looks dead. But it was from 2012 or something.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
42. It's likely the RW will let this one slip down the memory hole.
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 05:08 PM
Aug 2023

No way to turn those threats into a martyr.

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
48. Did you see the guy's photo...red faced and all puffed up?
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 06:05 PM
Aug 2023

Blood pressure over 200 he looks like you could pop him with a pin.

In fact, I'll bet he exploded like a blood filled water balloon when the first round hit him. Feel bad for any pet or humans within splatter range.

Guess when it came down to it, he wasn't such a bad ass with his weapons after all.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
52. Remember when you were a kid and they said to never even joke about threatening the president?
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 07:04 PM
Aug 2023

They'd send the Secret Service or the FBI to your house. And now death threats are an every day thing.

But one thing you don't do is fully arm yourself when they do come calling. The fucking moron got what he deserved.

It was just a matter of time before someone would be killed because of The Defendant's hate rallies and hate speech. This time the right sort of person was killed. Yay!

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
56. Their stupid made them "think"
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 07:44 PM
Aug 2023

That they could take on the government.

It's never occurred to any of them that they would be the ones bleeding out.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
60. Make stupid threats, win stupid prizes...
Wed Aug 9, 2023, 10:02 PM
Aug 2023

He makes a fine example to other MAGAts,
who talk shit on the internet, thinking that there is no price to pay....



I wish he had surrendered in peace to law enforcement...

obviously he did not.

Oh well, RIP, misguided fellow American....


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