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BumRushDaShow

(169,720 posts)
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 06:45 AM Aug 2023

Trump may not be headed to next week's Republican debate, but Democrats will be there

Source: NBC News

WASHINGTON — Donald Trump still hasn't said whether he will show up for the first Republican primary debate in Milwaukee next week, but Democrats plan to be there and talk about the former president either way. President Joe Biden’s re-election campaign will have a significant presence on the ground and on the airwaves, according to plans top officials shared exclusively with NBC News.

The Democrats' message will be simple: Regardless of whether Trump participates, the rest of the GOP field has already embraced his worldview. In a statement, campaign manager Julie Chávez Rodriguez said she believes the showdown “will put on display just how extreme and out of touch the Republican candidates are with the American people.” “The 2024 Republican primary is a race for the MAGA base, not an effort to earn the support of the voters they’ll need to win in November 2024 — and our campaign will be making that stark contrast and the important choice before voters very clear,” Chávez Rodriguez said.

Contested primaries to challenge sitting presidents give the party that is out of power more airtime to go on the attack against an incumbent. While the Republicans on Wednesday night's debate stage will be competing against one another, it's likely that most of their criticism will be focused on Biden. Letting the criticism go unanswered, particularly in an important swing state like Wisconsin, risks letting the Republicans make their case without pushback.

On Wednesday, the day of the debate, Biden's team will start running its third major paid media buy of the re-election cycle in key battleground states, including the first ads targeting Hispanic and Black media, the campaign said. In addition, Biden campaign co-chair Cedric Richmond and DNC Chair Jamie Harrison will be in Milwaukee to speak directly with the media.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trump-biden-republican-debate-rcna100289



This is Democratic Party "messaging". I repeat "This is Democratic Party 'messaging'". Don't say we are not "messaging".

I've been seeing Democratic party super PAC ads on MSNBC here in Philly on Comcast (from Future Forward PAC) the past couple days that I have been watching and also saw one that included an Emily's List affiliated ad with Forward PAC.
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Trump may not be headed to next week's Republican debate, but Democrats will be there (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 OP
'Extreme MAGA Republicans', repeated ad nauseam. speak easy Aug 2023 #1
Yup exactly!!! BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #3
Yes. I noticed that too! speak easy Aug 2023 #4
+1 nt brer cat Aug 2023 #11
It's about time they get aggressive Novara Aug 2023 #2
That's why I posted this BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #5
So the message is these Rs are just trying to get Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #7
I think they stopped "addressing American's needs" BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #9
They haven't had a party platform since 2008 Novara Aug 2023 #16
They actually had one "in writing" back then BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #17
Agree that they have no message and with all you said! But Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #20
We have the President periodically out on his "Bidenomics" tour BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #22
Ok you're 10,000 words over limit. Lol. IMHO weve Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #23
Well I included what the platform is and "Bidenomics" IS the "distillation" in one word BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #24
Ew... Love that!!! Not as much how or what but more goal-oriented Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #25
Every time I see where Trump has not decided gab13by13 Aug 2023 #6
This is true - Dems have gotten much better at messaging. PatrickforB Aug 2023 #8
Maybe it's time to dip my toe in the water and start with my mini-contributions to Democrats. NBachers Aug 2023 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Aug 2023 #12
Anyone planning to watch this circus? Bayard Aug 2023 #13
Only if Trump takes part Polybius Aug 2023 #15
I definitely will. It will be interesting watching them Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2023 #21
He could be in jail in Georgia. (hopefully) republianmushroom Aug 2023 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2023 #18
Don't speak in political jargon. Make the messages as direct as possible. ificandream Aug 2023 #19

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
1. 'Extreme MAGA Republicans', repeated ad nauseam.
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 07:21 AM
Aug 2023

Consistent repetition - that is messaging. How many years have we been hearing 'radical left Democrats'? This is not an accident.

The payoff for repetition?
"John Doe (R), too extreme for Ohio"
Short, accurate, and to the point.

BumRushDaShow

(169,720 posts)
3. Yup exactly!!!
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 07:57 AM
Aug 2023

And I have heard Biden use that phrase "extreme MAGA Republicans" - and he has been doing it for some time. I remember when he initially broached that when he gave that evening speech here in Philly at Independence Hall in September 2022.



Novara

(6,115 posts)
2. It's about time they get aggressive
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 07:45 AM
Aug 2023
Democrats plan to be there and talk about the former president either way. President Joe Biden’s re-election campaign will have a significant presence on the ground and on the airwaves, according to plans top officials shared exclusively with NBC News.


This is welcome news. They HAVE to take control of the narrative now that the GOP mafia has been exposed and indicted.

BumRushDaShow

(169,720 posts)
5. That's why I posted this
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 08:09 AM
Aug 2023

We are "messaging" but the media refuses to report it or they'll report it and bury the story among dozens of other links.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. So the message is these Rs are just trying to get
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 09:00 AM
Aug 2023

trump supporters? And not addressing American's needs?

BumRushDaShow

(169,720 posts)
9. I think they stopped "addressing American's needs"
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 09:19 AM
Aug 2023

after the 2016 election. And that's because they made a decision to NOT have a party platform the past 2 Presidentials.

About the only thing left is what I'm thinking is having state legislatures enact ALEC framework legislation that -

1.) Re-institutes LGBTQ+ hate
2.) Revises historical events and the experiences of the people who were part of it
3.) Eliminates diversity, equity, inclusion
4.) Eliminates choice for women's healthcare
5.) Permits the courts to become medical advisors, providers, and deciders
6.) Imposes the tenets of a single religion as a national one to cover all aspects of life, including education
7.) Promotes unfettered gun ownership without regulation
8.) Demands First Amendment protection for one group affiliated with their doctrine and eliminates it for anyone else
9.) Solidify voter suppression schemes by gerrymandering and restricting access to all aspects of the franchise

Novara

(6,115 posts)
16. They haven't had a party platform since 2008
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:08 PM
Aug 2023

when their reason for living was to block every single thing the first Black president wanted to get done. McConnell even said the quiet part out loud and said their main goal was to make Obama a one-term president.

Obstruct obstruct obstruct. Prove government doesn't work by gumming up the works and say, "See? Government doesn't work," and blame Democrats for the sabotage.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. Agree that they have no message and with all you said! But
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 06:14 AM
Aug 2023

Thought we were talking about our message. Can totally understand why they don't have one... You can't exactly say... We are for anything that helps the rich. Or anything that hurts those who are different.

BumRushDaShow

(169,720 posts)
22. We have the President periodically out on his "Bidenomics" tour
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 07:48 AM
Aug 2023

which has been focusing on the "economics" messaging -

1.) Jobs for Americans ( "insource" vs "outsource" )
>Infrastructure bill
>CHIPS bill

2.) Focus on well being of working/middle class families
> push for fair tax reform
> reduce costs of everyday things (prescription drugs, get rid of "junk fees" )
> student loan forgiveness
> encourage development of training/apprenticeship programs & partnerships with labor organizations and others
> public housing reforms that remove barriers

And then other subjects have been broached through various events and have also been showing up as ads on TV as well as reforms enacted (including revisions of Rules) -

3.) Clean energy/climate
> transition away from fossil fuels for transportation and move to EV (IRA)
> protect environment including clean air/water (e.g., Rules for dealing with PFAS in drinking water, etc)
> set aside land for nature and not development/mining

4.) Immigration Reform
> infrastructure for and mechanism to enable a streamlined process for applying for asylum/entry/citizenship

And then the big subjects of Roe, Voting Rights, Gun control...

5.) Health and well-being
> preservation of healthcare for all who need it without artificial ideological restrictions
(this covers women/choice, LGBTQ+/gender-affirming, low income/seniors, disabled/differently-abled, vets)
> lowering the costs of healthcare
> addressing the growing lack of facilities providing healthcare in both rural and urban areas (including maternity)
> addressing working conditions for safety (including climate-change induced heat mitigation)

6.) Defending Democracy
> ensuring the right to the franchise is not hindered - make it easier to vote not harder

7.) Gun Control
> continue to enact common sense gun reform including an AWB
> remove loopholes that allow untraceable firearms like "ghost guns" (weapons assembled from individual parts)
> safety in schools

8.) Education
> strategize ways to provide a high quality education despite the divisive rhetoric that has trashed the system

This is just off the top of my head and since I'm a newsy, I try to dig for and post articles that update what the administration is doing. You have the VP out doing events along with the various Cabinet Secretaries.

(can you tell I used to be a fed? )

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
23. Ok you're 10,000 words over limit. Lol. IMHO weve
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 12:21 PM
Aug 2023

Got to boil everything down to 5 short sentences

BumRushDaShow

(169,720 posts)
24. Well I included what the platform is and "Bidenomics" IS the "distillation" in one word
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 12:43 PM
Aug 2023

at least for that aspect that is being pushed at the moment.

WaPo had an article on 8/12/23 that mentioned "5 pillars" -

5 key pillars of President Biden’s economic revolution

By Jeff Stein
August 12, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EDT

President Biden has defined “Bidenomics” as encompassing almost everything good in the U.S. economy — falling unemployment, robust wage growth, new small business creation. And he’s planning to make the concept central to his bid for a second term.

(snip)

Since taking office, the president has pushed through dozens of changes and personnel appointments that have upended everything from how workers unionize to how large corporations merge. Biden and his aides have sought to revive domestic manufacturing through a clean energy boom, while also trying — with mixed success — to expand the federal safety net.

Biden’s advisers say the president wants an attempt to move beyond the “trickle-down economics” that defined the last four decades in Washington. Biden frequently says past administrations focused on tax breaks for rich people and corporations, but that he aims instead for “growing the economy from the bottom up and middle out.”

The underlying idea is that new government investment “crowds in” additional investments from private companies, a break from past belief that constraining the public sector would free the private sector to grow more. The result is a federal government that intervenes directly much more than it’s done in decades — to boost unions, block corporate monopolies, and spur economic and industrial growth, among other goals.

(snip)

Run the economy hot

(snip)

Make unions stronger

(snip)

Revive domestic manufacturing through green energy

(snip)

Rein in corporate power

(snip)

Expand the safety net

(snip)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/08/12/biden-economic-plan-pillars-impact/
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. Ew... Love that!!! Not as much how or what but more goal-oriented
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 02:43 PM
Aug 2023

Although would definitely throw is Save the planet and Curb gun death

Think everyone has changed. Can't listen to more than a couple sentences attention span shortened!

gab13by13

(32,314 posts)
6. Every time I see where Trump has not decided
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 08:30 AM
Aug 2023

whether he will attend the debate I laugh out loud.

Will Chris Christie be there, then Trump won't.

PatrickforB

(15,424 posts)
8. This is true - Dems have gotten much better at messaging.
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 09:01 AM
Aug 2023

It took some doing, but thankfully it's happening now, and pretty effectively at that.

NBachers

(19,438 posts)
10. Maybe it's time to dip my toe in the water and start with my mini-contributions to Democrats.
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 09:27 AM
Aug 2023

God knows they're a presistent bunch.

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Bayard

(29,679 posts)
13. Anyone planning to watch this circus?
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 11:08 AM
Aug 2023

Please give us a follow up report, because it would make me nauseous.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
15. Only if Trump takes part
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 11:41 AM
Aug 2023

The 2015/2016 Republican debates were near-better than sex. Well, almost.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
21. I definitely will. It will be interesting watching them
Sat Aug 19, 2023, 06:20 AM
Aug 2023

tiptoe between hating on trump without hating on crazies who follow him! To anyone running who speaks out unequivocally, bravo. You know you can't win but at least you're speaking up!

Really beware of anyone who tries to to inexplicably thread that needle. They are dangerously dishonest.

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ificandream

(11,837 posts)
19. Don't speak in political jargon. Make the messages as direct as possible.
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 05:46 PM
Aug 2023

Republicans aren't working for you. Democrats are. We care. They don't.

Republicans are the January 6 Party.





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