Trump surrender in Georgia case expected next week, source says

[BumRushDaShow]

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Source: CNN Politics

Washington CNN — Negotiations between Donald Trump’s lawyers and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’ office over the details of his surrender are expected to continue into next week, a source with knowledge of the talks tells CNN.

This means the former president’s surrender is expected next week – not Thursday or Friday – before the August 25 deadline. CNN previously reported on Wednesday that talks were underway between Trump’s team and Willis’ prosecutors.

The Fulton County sheriff has said that all 19 defendants in the case, including Trump, are expected to surrender at the Fulton County jail, as is common procedure. The former president’s surrender and arraignment will look different in Georgia than in his previous three criminal cases.

Fulton County Sheriff Pat Labat has previously suggested he wants to treat these defendants the same as any other defendant would be treated, which means they would have mugshots taken and be fingerprinted. However, the authorities in Fulton County will need to coordinate with the Secret Service and Trump’s attorneys about the logistics of the former president’s surrender.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/17/politics/donald-trump-surrender-georgia/index.html

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Washington CNN — Negotiations between Donald Trump’s lawyers and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’ office over the details of his surrender are expected to continue into next week, a source with knowledge of the talks tells CNN.

This means the former president’s surrender is expected next week – not Thursday or Friday – before the August 25 deadline.

CNN previously reported on Wednesday that talks were underway between Trump’s team and Willis’ prosecutors.


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[Beachnutt]

1. There should be NO NEGOTIATIONS,

Turn yourself in at the county jail or we will come and get you.
Period !!!

[gab13by13]

6. Absolutely,

I will be pissed if they treat him differently. The sheriff has it right, no fucking special treatment, dammit.

This is bull shit if he gets special treatment

[ananda]

16. I agree. They're already treating him differently.

Angry emoticon here.

[SouthernDem4ever]

11. Exactly

Meet the deadline or you'll be in custody.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

18. And at least one of his SS crew should be carrying an overnight bag...

... just incase a SS detail needs to be sitting outside his jail/solitary cell. That would be a good sign to see one or more SS agents looking like they are heading for a sleepover!

[ProudMNDemocrat]

2. I'm ready for my mugshot, Sheriff!

[speak easy]

5. ...

[riversedge]

27. I think most of us are. Yet, I highly doubt Trump will have a mugshot.

[onetexan]

28. DItto!! The mugshots, i want the mugshots!!

[Walleye]

3. They are open 24/7 and waiting for you, Donald. The lights are always on

[ByebyeTrump]

4. Friends

Trump goes to jail and learns how to actually be a leader there in his POD. Maybe he can get them some jell-O or cookies or some extra TV time.

[Jay25]

7. Absolutely how it should be done.

He has gotten away with damn near everything that he has done. The fact that he is still free is why his sycophants believe in his innocence.

[Wicked Blue]

8. SURRENDER, DONALD

[orleans]

22. or, more to the point:

[TheRickles]

9. In addition to fingerprints and a mug shot, they will also record his height and weight.

That could be the most embarrassing aspect of the whole situation. I'm sure he's put on a few pounds since his notorious "239 pounds" from 2018; Las Vegas has probably established an over/under for his new weight. Should be interesting.

[YDogg]

10. 282

My best uneducated guess.

[SouthernDem4ever]

12. 310

Going by the dimensions in his photos - and I don't mean the NFT's. I was using that photo of his golf swing from the rear.

[obamanut2012]

13. 325

[Beachnutt]

14. Well, evidently they're negotiating

Fair and just system my ass !!

[YDogg]

15. Hopefully they are simply discussing day and time ...

... and not anything substantially more beneficial to the criminal defendant.

[mopinko]

17. i'm very curious if he will slink in or make a scene.

maybe we shd have a pool.

[Bayard]

19. What a load of BS!

Secret Service is with him all the time, and his attorneys can adjust.

Remember--treat him like the rest of his gang.

[CanonRay]

20. What's to negotiate?

Just show up asshole

[dalton99a]

21. Kick

[Novara]

23. Willis shouldn't have given him two weeks

Wait a minute. Maybe she gave him plenty of time to attack her and the grand jury and make it much worse for himself when he is arraigned. Maybe this was strategic.

I'm not so sure they won't make special accommodations anyway.

But in case they don't, can anyone tell me how this might work? He surrenders at the jail, they fingerprint him, book him etc., and does he then ride a prison transport to the courthouse for the arraignment with whichever magistrate judge is on the bench that day? Isn't that how they do this with "normal" defendants? I mean, if he's a normal defendant...

[BumRushDaShow]

25. Remember that just doesn't apply to him but the other 18 as well

So it gives them all 2 weeks to roll in whenever... as long as they all show up by Aug. 25 and get processed.

From one of those legal portal sites, this is the process - https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arraignment-georgia.html

What Happens at an Initial Appearance in Georgia?

Find information about the early goings in Georgia criminal cases, including determinations of bail and "probable cause."

By Michael Tarleton

In Georgia, the defendant's first appearance before a judge is often called an "initial appearance." "Arraignment" refers to the hearing at which the prosecution announces the charges it has filed; at that point, the defendant typically responds by pleading either guilty or not guilty.

Timing of the Initial Appearance

An arresting agency or county sheriff's department must bring someone who's been arrested without a warrant before a judicial officer (a magistrate or judge) within 48 hours—unless the person has already bailed out of jail. (Ga. Code § 17-4-62; Ga. Unif. Super. Ct. R. 26.1.) The timeframe is 72 hours if there was a warrant for the arrest. (Ga. Code § 17-4-26; Ga. Unif. Super. Ct. R. 26.1.) (For someone who has bailed out of jail, the next court appearance—either a commitment hearing or an arraignment—may be several days or a couple weeks later.)

(snip)

More: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/arraignment-georgia.html

So in that group's case, they have all been indicted and charged and have warrants, so an arraignment in court needs to happen up to a couple weeks after they are processed if they are not being held in jail.

Since few of them (except maybe a couple Electors) live in the state, they would all need to travel back and forth. So they will have to schedule an arraignment (or might even be assigned a date to appear). The fact that the Jail is "open 24/7" but the courts aren't, means they would have to do some juggling along with everyone else down there who get arrested (those non-affiliated with this case), to schedule with a judge.

I don't know if there would be any accommodation for 45 to actually get it done all on the same day though (which is probably what all this "negotiating" is about per the OP).

[Novara]

30. But the semantics!

I'm getting caught up in semantics.

An arresting agency or county sheriff's department must bring someone who's been arrested without a warrant before a judicial officer (a magistrate or judge) within 48 hours—unless the person has already bailed out of jail. (

So, does the sheriff escort him to the judicial officer? Is there some sort of process with a judicial officer in the jailhouse? And who sets bail is he hasn't seen a judge yet? If he surrenders and gets booked, he's in custody. Who decides if he can have bail if it isn't the magistrate judge?

Any lawyers out there who understand this process?

[onetexan]

29. I don't think it's just Fani, but Judge Chutkin as well

To call the shots on how much leeway to give him.

[Ray Bruns]

24. Donald could always take the Adolf and Eva bunker route and save everyone the trouble.

Donald, take the hint.

[nowforever]

26. Lock IT up!!!

Nothing to negotiate. Treat him like the rabid dog that he is. Waiting for that phony smile mugshot...and the humiliation hidden in those piggy eyes.

[JudyM]

31. Locking by forum hosts' consensus

Still in process, not yet important breaking news. Good General Discussion story, if you’d like to repost it there.