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BumRushDaShow

(169,760 posts)
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:05 PM Aug 2023

Ron DeSantis debate memo urges him to defend Trump and take 'a sledge-hammer' to Vivek Ramaswamy

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Lasher (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: NBC News

Allies of Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis outlined a strategy for next week's GOP presidential primary debate in a memo encouraging him to defend former President Donald Trump from attacks by rival Chris Christie and call upstart contender Vivek Ramaswamy "fake."

The two-page memo, authored by leaders of the pro-DeSantis super PAC Never Back Down, was published to the website of Axiom Strategies and dated Aug. 15. Axiom founder Jeff Roe also leads the pro-DeSantis' super PAC. “Defend Trump when Chris Christie attacks him,” the memo reads, adding a potential line for DeSantis to use on stage in Milwaukee against the former governor of New Jersey: “Trump isn’t here so let’s just leave him alone. He’s too weak to defend himself here.

We’re all running against him. I don’t think we want to join forces with someone on this stage who’s auditioning for a show on MSNBC.” On Ramaswamy, the 38-year-old businessman whose long-shot campaign has seen upward movement in the polls in recent weeks, the DeSantis allies write that the Florida governor needs to “take a sledge-hammer” to him, calling him “Fake Vivek” or “Vivek the Fake.”

The New York Times was first to report on the memo. Never Back Down did not immediately respond to a request for comment. The document offers an insider's perspective into what DeSantis' boosters believe he needs to accomplish on stage next week, listing among "four basic must dos" his defense of Trump and attack on Ramaswamy.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/desantis-debate-memo-urges-defend-trump-attack-ramaswamy-rcna100414



NYT version posted here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218192551

I don't understand the disconnect shown in the recommendations for debate prep to "defend" someone that you are running against to become the nominee, who is already leading the loon pack. It is either a "deep fake" document or goes to show how his whole shtick is fake.
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Ron DeSantis debate memo urges him to defend Trump and take 'a sledge-hammer' to Vivek Ramaswamy (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 OP
He could just sit on him EYESORE 9001 Aug 2023 #1
The problem for desantis is christie will eat him a new one, if he tries to defend trump. republianmushroom Aug 2023 #2
They will all be gunning for deSantis speak easy Aug 2023 #3
That will be fun to watch. NH Ethylene Aug 2023 #6
Ahh, the stupid name calling SOP for them n/t hibbing Aug 2023 #4
These people are violent sociopaths with their language Brenda Aug 2023 #5
"RIGGERS!" CurtEastPoint Aug 2023 #9
I am not sure if this is snark or just incredibly bad PR skills genxlib Aug 2023 #7
Will the sledgehammer slip out of his pudding fingers? hay rick Aug 2023 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2023 #10
Vivek lonely bird Aug 2023 #11
Defend Trump? Is this a joke? keithbvadu2 Aug 2023 #12
They're all fake vlyons Aug 2023 #13
Ron wants to be Trump's VP now is how I read that ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #14
I didn't think about that BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #17
Trump will never pick a woman as a running late. ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #18
Actually narcissists like him BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #20
VP is different. Unless it's Ivanka as VP it ain't gonna happen. ZonkerHarris Aug 2023 #22
LOL BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #23
Because DeathSentence wants TFG's supporters IronLionZion Aug 2023 #15
If that scenario went down BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 #21
These people would flunk 7th grade debating class nt GenThePerservering Aug 2023 #16
Gotta buy popcorn! no_hypocrisy Aug 2023 #19
Locking, we don't think this is LBN news. Lasher Aug 2023 #24

EYESORE 9001

(29,732 posts)
1. He could just sit on him
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:09 PM
Aug 2023

republianmushroom

(22,326 posts)
2. The problem for desantis is christie will eat him a new one, if he tries to defend trump.
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:13 PM
Aug 2023

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
3. They will all be gunning for deSantis
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:21 PM
Aug 2023

Christie will have the advantage of taking him way down if he tries to defend Trump.

NH Ethylene

(31,346 posts)
6. That will be fun to watch.
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:29 PM
Aug 2023

I would not be surprised if Christie floated toward the top by taking this blunt, anti-Trump strategy. It makes him look stronger and that's what the GOP voters like.

hibbing

(10,598 posts)
4. Ahh, the stupid name calling SOP for them n/t
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:23 PM
Aug 2023

Brenda

(2,054 posts)
5. These people are violent sociopaths with their language
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:23 PM
Aug 2023

"take a sledge-hammer"
Rudy/Farmer thread - "kill shot" at Biden
"Slit-throat" Florida Man
Palin's target map and crosshairs for Gabby Giffords

Is it all just an extension of WWE trash talking that their base adores?

CurtEastPoint

(20,024 posts)
9. "RIGGERS!"
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:39 PM
Aug 2023

genxlib

(6,136 posts)
7. I am not sure if this is snark or just incredibly bad PR skills
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:31 PM
Aug 2023

THIS isn't defending someone


Trump isn’t here so let’s just leave him alone. He’s too weak to defend himself here.


If he says anything of the sort, that is a direct shot and not defending at all.

hay rick

(9,605 posts)
8. Will the sledgehammer slip out of his pudding fingers?
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 12:33 PM
Aug 2023

Popcorn.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

lonely bird

(2,941 posts)
11. Vivek
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 01:04 PM
Aug 2023

Born at least on second base if not third base.

Libertarian asshat.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
12. Defend Trump? Is this a joke?
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 01:12 PM
Aug 2023

Kiss Trump's ass? The man who ridicules you?

Attack the nothing Vivek to make yourself look actively engaged?

This is a real strategy?

You want to show power and leadership? Take on Christie.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
13. They're all fake
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 01:12 PM
Aug 2023

Fake Americans, fake Christians, fake decency

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
14. Ron wants to be Trump's VP now is how I read that
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 01:14 PM
Aug 2023

BumRushDaShow

(169,760 posts)
17. I didn't think about that
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 01:45 PM
Aug 2023

maybe because I always thought that Nikki Haley (who has disappeared out of the news) was gunning for that slot.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
18. Trump will never pick a woman as a running late.
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 01:59 PM
Aug 2023

That would make them equal with him, as a successor to his job

BumRushDaShow

(169,760 posts)
20. Actually narcissists like him
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 02:06 PM
Aug 2023

like "trophies" and that is what she would become. A "trophy running mate" for all those Karens who support the GOP. She would have no real power but is there "for show". She did work for his administration, albeit briefly, as U.S. Ambassador to the U.N.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
22. VP is different. Unless it's Ivanka as VP it ain't gonna happen.
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 02:43 PM
Aug 2023

BumRushDaShow

(169,760 posts)
23. LOL
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 03:30 PM
Aug 2023

I wouldn't put that past him either.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
15. Because DeathSentence wants TFG's supporters
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 01:35 PM
Aug 2023

When TFG hopefully goes down for his crimes, Ron will try to scoop up MAGAt support.

Vivek Ramaswamy doesn't have many supporters and MAGA hates brown people anyway.

BumRushDaShow

(169,760 posts)
21. If that scenario went down
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 02:13 PM
Aug 2023

they wouldn't switch over to him. He doesn't have the same level of slick sadistic dynamics and hasn't learned to "code talk", whether it be to incite violence or to magnify how racist they are.

DeathSantis is like a wannabe "sorcerer" who "goes through the motions" but doesn't have the evil thoroughly and completely coursing through his veins enough for it to ooze out rather than squirt out. He's a year younger than Don Jr. so just a baby to 45.

(I know that imagery is wild )

GenThePerservering

(3,379 posts)
16. These people would flunk 7th grade debating class nt
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 01:45 PM
Aug 2023

no_hypocrisy

(54,908 posts)
19. Gotta buy popcorn!
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 02:02 PM
Aug 2023

Lasher

(29,577 posts)
24. Locking, we don't think this is LBN news.
Thu Aug 17, 2023, 03:56 PM
Aug 2023

What he does at the debate could be.

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