Sinema calls for Biden admin and Tuberville to find 'middle ground' in abortion standoff

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Source: NBC News

Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, the Arizona independent who left the Democratic Party last year, is calling on both the Biden administration and Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala., to soften their positions and find a “middle ground” on a Pentagon policy involving abortion in order to end the Republican's monthslong blockade of hundreds of military promotions.

According to a recording obtained by NBC News, Sinema told a meeting of the Greater Phoenix Chamber of Commerce last week that she has “offered” to help both sides come to a consensus.

“I know that Coach does not want to undermine the readiness of our United States military,” Sinema said, referring to the former college football coach by his preferred title. “And I know that the United States military and the administration does not want to undermine the authority and the right of any United States senator. What we need are for folks to step off a little bit from their positions and find that middle ground to solve the challenge that we’re facing.”

“I’ve volunteered to help do that,” she added. “We’ll see if they take me up on the offer.”

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sinema-seeks-compromise-tuberville-biden-abortion-policy-military-hold-rcna100388

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[CurtEastPoint]

1. Fuck off, Cinnamon

[Bluethroughu]

6. This.

Doesn't she have something to do...

Like brush her big furry vest.

[Scottie Mom]

61. Ditto. EOM

[RandySF]

2. No

[TheBlackAdder]

50. Curious. Was Manchin not available?

[LoisB]

3. What "middle ground"? What you mean is for President Biden to capitulate to Tuberville's demands.

[Marthe48]

27. Please use tuberville's preferred title

commie.

[LoisB]

33. Will do.

[Marthe48]

34. ty

[LisaM]

63. I know, that cracked me up!

Isn't she kind of tipping her hand by calling him "Coach"?

[Botany]

43. She can find the middle ground between fuck and off

?1644027503

[orleans]

45. exactly! that "independent" should just FUCK OFF! nt

[Botany]

47. I might be wrong but I think besides being a grifter who knows she is a one term wonder because ...

... she has sold out the people of Arizona and the United States and I think she is bi-polar as hell with
her "look @ me outfits" and her actions.

[dobleremolque]

4. My goodness! Where would the campaign contributions have come from

to get Sinema to say all that?

[NCjack]

42. +1

Like you, I see her "For Sale" sign on her back. Just don't know who is the buyer.

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. There is no middle ground on this issue, Krysten.

[Ilsa]

59. Exactly! What is the middle ground here?

They woman has to go AWOL to get reproductive healthcare?

Sinema is fucked up.

[Autumn]

7. I call for Sinema to STFU.

[Irish_Dem]

8. What is the middle ground on abortion?

[maxsolomon]

39. They'll pay for travel if the life of the woman is in danger

But not if the 'bortion is for "funzies"?

Think that will fly with an absolutist like "Senator Coach"?

[Irish_Dem]

44. Military cannot guarantee combat readiness when women forced to give birth.

For example female F-16 pilots are highly trained and experienced.
Very expensive to train as well. They cannot be easily or quickly replaced.

[AllyCat]

72. From a purely military and economic standpoint, this.

Even if those rat bastards don’t give 2 shits about women, you’d think this would matter to those creeps.

[Sky Jewels]

9. What a craven piece of shit she is.

She can drop dead.

[piddyprints]

10. Middle ground?

So, what, they can get halfway to a state where they can get safe care? Aren’t we already making every fucking thing hard enough for women? SMDH

I sincerely hope Sinema finds herself pregnant, with no access to care. Toss a nonviable fetus in for good measure. The only way some people learn is through personal experience. Let her see that there is no middle ground.

[RocRizzo55]

11. Sinema and Tubbyville

need to just STFU.
There is no middle ground.

[LiberalFighter]

12. Is there a sewer big enough?

[Evolve Dammit]

13. Useless loser. Join the GOP already. You know you will. Just not yet, like Joe M. nt

[delisen]

14. A middle found on American human rights? nt

[czarjak]

15. Let's agree to disagree...

You're wrong. We're right.

[mopinko]

16. ah, the mythical land of middle ground.

get the fuck out of here. ppl been pretending their was some ‘middle ground’ for 50 yrs.
never been found, cuz it isnt there.

i dont understand how she cld think this was an original thought.

[bucolic_frolic]

17. And reward this blackmail? No way. /nt

[rurallib]

18. Biden is commander-in-chief. "Coach" isn't. end of discussion for me.

"Coach" is taking hostages and now wants negotiate.
What is America's stance on negotiating with hostage takers? They won't do it.

[Quanto Magnus]

19. That umbrella is the perfect response

to (bleep bleepity bleep bleep) Sinema....

She needs to just shut up and sit down. She is not a leader, she needs to stop trying.

[LudwigPastorius]

20. What a staunch defender of women's rights. /s

Boy am I glad that phony POS left the part.

[ImNotGod]

21. Middle ground with a fascist? You betcha!. nt

[bluboid]

22. uhhh gee...

do I follow the empty words of someone with no integrity...
or support the leader who stabilized the economy of this country & won our respect & gratitude, here & throughout the world...

what a choice! good thing it's easy!

[raging moderate]

23. Actually, there already WAS middle ground: Roe v. Wade.

At age 75, I remember the long, exhaustive research, testimonies by experts, discussion among and between the right and the left wings, and hammering out of a compromise that preceded that decision when I was a young woman. The right-wingers have done their best to trash it, because it conflicted with their obstinate ignorance.

[lastlib]

24. Here's the middle ground: Tom Potato is an idiot.

(So is Sinema.) Women deserve every opportunity to preserve their health, and that includes their reproductive health. The U.S. military needs an intact command structure and healthy soldiers/sailors. So GTF out of the way, Potato.

That's the middle ground.

[lonely bird]

25. Um, Kyrsten?

Go take a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

[Omaha Steve]

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[Marthe48]

32. Thanks!

bookmarked for later use

[Mister Ed]

28. Mister Ed calls for Sinema to take a hike. n/t

[2naSalit]

29. She can simply...

SD&STFU

[Wild blueberry]

30. Uh, no

Sit down and be quiet, little twit.
(My expletive-deleted version. You may imagine the original.)

[Oopsie Daisy]

31. Her days are numbered. And so are his.

[maxsolomon]

41. Hers, probably.

His? Nope. He's probably Senator until he decides he doesn't want to be. It's 'Bama.

[Oopsie Daisy]

54. Maybe they'll make him move back to Alabama instead of living in Florida.

Or maybe a well-executed challenge to his eligibility may keep him from running again.

[louslobbs]

35. I'll let the umbrella speak for

ME!

[Warpy]

36. There is no middle ground, Tuberville is a zealot

who wants all those pregnant sluts thrown our of the military so the real soldiers (male) can get back to the shining standard of warrior purity and purpose.

Tuberville needs to be sued, ejected, defrocked, whatever. He committed fraud to get elected, not residing in the state he ran in, doesn't matter where his Mama has a house.

Sinema is a total fucking twit. The only good thing about her tenure in the Senate will be its brevity.

Senate Democrats share some of the blame for not managing to eliminate the filibuster. Maybe this particular abuse of power will finally do it. It has to go.

[Hekate]

60. THIS. Women do not belong in Tuberville's military

[swong19104]

68. To be fair

I doubt Tub-ville really gives a damn about pregnancies and abortion. I wouldn't doubt he may have paid off several abortions for pregnancies caused by some of his college players when he was a coach. (NOTE: Obviously, I have no direct knowledge to validate or refute this claim.)

He's just strutting to show that he can flex his muscle. That is part of the problem with how the senate rules are structured. It's structured so that the rules can be severely misused while their purposeful, positive uses are mainly palliative.

[Cha]

37. "If it weren't for her & manchin We could have..

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[Nasruddin]

38. Sure there's middle ground

Just allow half an abortion!
Very Solomonic!

[byronius]

40. Idiot Queen.

[aeromanKC]

46. Biden doesn't negotiate with terrorists

[Fiendish Thingy]

48. Shouldn't she be busy lining up her post-retirement lobbying gig? Nt

[sakabatou]

49. GFY, Sinema

[ShazzieB]

51. Oh, look who has delusions of grandeur!

J/K, she's had them for a while, but I haven't seen her display them quite so blatantly in a long time.

She can take those delusions, along with her oh-so-sassy "fuck off" ring and her "thumbs down" curtsy, and stuff them all where the sun don't shine!

[Harker]

52. "Coach"? n/t

[BlueKota]

53. She couldn't even have the decency to stand by

the party that got her elected. She has no right to advise anyone to do anything.

[Piratedog]

55. She should really shut her pie hole

[SouthernDem4ever]

56. And what common ground would that be?

Outlawing women's healthcare in the military?

[Mr.Bill]

57. This makes as much sense as

finding middle ground with a cockroach you find on your kitchen counter.

[Hekate]

58. I am beyond being civil any more with people who don't think women deserve health care, so here goes

Kyrsten — can I call you Kyrsten? It sounds so chummy, sisterly even, like we might be sharing a couple of girly drinks while you sport your colorful “Fuck Off” ring.

Anyway — here’s my wish for you: every kind of pregnancy-related disaster right inside your personal body. Don’t think that could happen? Well I was 53 when I went in for a perimenopausal ultrasound and the technician discovered a fully ripened egg follicle. So yeah, it can happen.

And because I suspect you don’t think it could ever be your problem, may you stall for a couple of months before going to your doc to find out why you have a tippy tummy all the time. After that, may every pharmacist, nurse, and doc you encounter on your subsequent journey invoke the “conscience clause” and let you know in no uncertain terms that they can’t help you.

May it happen.

“Middle ground” my rosy Irish ass.

[Wednesdays]

62. Kyrsten who?

Is she even relevant anymore?

[Hekate]

67. As in the beginning: as long as our Senate majority hangs by a thread, yes she is relevant

GOTV. Support all Dem Senatorial candidates.

[Fresh Water Falling]

64. How about we make abortion RETROACTIVE, Kyrstie?

I nominate you as the first experimental subject!

[Vinca]

65. No! She should just tell Tuberville to stop enabling Putin.

[bringthePaine]

66. she's a straight-up punk whose word means less than nothing

[JohnSJ]

69. I suspect she would try to find middle ground on slavery. What a jackass

[AllyCat]

71. I'm with Klein's stance on this.

How on earth can she not support women here?

[ificandream]

73. Locking ....

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