House Freedom Caucus: Let Trump Walk or We'll Shut Down the Government

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Source: dailybeast.com



ULTIMATUM
Brett Bachman

Published Aug. 21, 2023 4:52PM EDT
Members of the House Freedom Caucus.
Reuters/Evelyn Hockstein

The House Freedom Caucus issued a series of ultimatums Monday, outlining the demands it wants met before the right-wing group’s members will support a measure to raise the U.S. debt ceiling and continue to fund the federal government. Among them: an end to the myriad criminal cases pending against former President Donald Trump (and the so-called “weaponization” of the Justice Department against conservatives), as well as ensured passage of a draconian immigration law and an amorphous demand to end “woke” policies in the U.S. military. “Furthermore, we will oppose any attempt by Washington to revert to its old playbook of using a series of short-term funding extensions designed to push Congress up against a December deadline to force the passage of yet another monstrous, budget busting, pork filled, lobbyist handout omnibus spending bill at year’s end.”

Read more: https://www.thedailybeast.com/house-freedom-caucus-let-trump-walk-or-well-shut-down-the-government

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This is horrible to actually see this in our bocountry! Repugs believe one man --#Trump--is above the law!

[MontanaMama]

1. Isn't this extortion?

[Biophilic]

3. Well, they are sort of a criminal operation.

It's just amazing to me that it is so blatant. They obviously think they have the upper hand. Very scary.

[MontanaMama]

5. They're either painfully stupid

or they know something we don’t know.

[sheshe2]

66. I am going with painfully stupid.

[MontanaMama]

67. That's my vote too, she.

Jeebus, they are off the beam.

[sheshe2]

73. Here they are, MM.

AZ 5 Andy Biggs
NC 8 Dan Bishop
CO 3 Lauren Boebert
OK 2 Josh Brecheen
CO 4 Ken Buck
MO 7 Eric Burlison
VA 6 Ben Cline
TX 27 Michael Cloud
GA 9 Andrew Clyde
GA 10 Mike Collins
AZ 2 Eli Crane
OH 8 Warren Davidson
TN 4 Scott DesJarlais
FL 19 Byron Donalds
SC 3 Jeff Duncan
ID 1 Russ Fulcher
FL 1 Matt Gaetz
VA 5 Bob Good
AZ 9 Paul Gosar
TN 7 Mark Green
GA 14 Marjorie Taylor Greene
VA 9 Morgan Griffith
WY At large Harriet Hageman
MD 1 Andy Harris
TN 1 Diana Harshbarger
LA 3 Clay Higgins
TX 13 Ronny Jackson
LA 4 Mike Johnson
OH 4 Jim Jordan
AZ 8 Debbie Lesko
FL 13 Anna Paulina Luna
IL 15 Mary Miller
OH 7 Max Miller
WV 2 Alex Mooney
AL 2 Barry Moore
NC 3 Greg Murphy
TX 22 Troy Nehls
SC 5 Ralph Norman
TN 5 Andy Ogles
AL 6 Gary Palmer
PA 10 Scott Perry
FL 8 Bill Posey
MT 2 Matt Rosendale
TX 21 Chip Roy
AZ 1 David Schweikert
TX 3 Keith Self
FL 17 Greg Steube
WI 7 Tom Tiffany
TX 14 Randy Weber
Note: Data as of Jan. 23, 2023.
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/01/23/freedom-caucus-likely-to-play-a-bigger-role-in-new-gop-led-house-so-who-are-they/

They are bat shit crazy

[AllyCat]

76. This reads like a list of folks who may be worried about their own

Legal standing after aiding and abetting the attempted overthrow of our government.

[former9thward]

93. Has there been anyone in Congress charged in the various indictments?

[AllyCat]

95. Unfortunately, no. But maybe I should say

“ not yet”.

Many have come to his defense and assisted in this effort. Graham, R Johnson, Hawley, Q Bert, MT Greene, Biggs, Gosar.

[littlemissmartypants]

78. Yes they are! From NC...

NC 8 Dan Bishop
...not the sharpest tool in the shed is a destructive a hole.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Bishop

Bishop was the lead author of North Carolina's Public Facilities Privacy & Security Act, commonly called the bathroom bill, which prohibited transgender people from using public restrooms other than those of their biological sex as defined on their birth certificates.[5][6] As a result of backlash, North Carolina lost a significant amount of revenue from companies and other organizations who chose to withdraw their investments in the state.[7]

NC 3 Greg Murphy
...who is especially stupid and evil...is also a
racist, ageist, sexist, Christian nationalist, election results denying, spineless misogynistic prig.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Murphy_(politician)

Political positions

Chinese espionage

As a result of Chinese espionage at American universities, Murphy introduced the INFLUENCE Act, aimed at reducing the number of Chinese nationals attending American higher education institutions. While requiring higher education institutions to report gifts of $50,000 or more from a foreign source, Murphy's legislation also establishes interagency coordination on the enforcement of any violations exposing U.S. national security projects.[25]

Joe Biden

During the 2020 presidential campaign, Murphy claimed on Twitter that Joe Biden "obviously is fighting the ravages of dementia."[26] Questioned about the assertion by a reporter, Murphy, a urologist, said he was only echoing what the public thinks.[27] "The majority of American people believe he does have dementia", he said.[28]

Kamala Harris

In an October 2020 tweet that later was deleted,[29] Murphy called Democratic vice presidential nominee Kamala Harris a "walking disaster" who "was only picked for her color and her race".[29]

Controversial 9/11 tweet

Murphy was condemned for a tweet directed at Representative Ilhan Omar, a Muslim who, while speaking at a 2019 fundraiser for Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR), called the September 11 attacks an event where "some people did something".[30]

"Heartbroken to learn another CP was killed while protecting the Capitol", Omar wrote after an April 2 incident.[31] "My thoughts and prayers go out to the officer's family and the entire Capitol Police force. The death toll would have been worse if the assailant had an AR-15 instead of a knife." Murphy responded, "Would have been worse if they had been flying planes into the buildings also".[32]

Davidson College controversy

Murphy was among 11 co-signers of a letter criticizing his alma mater, Davidson College, for recently removing a requirement that its president and most trustees be Christian. In a May 2021 email to alumni from an official-looking address, the group said Davidson had strayed from its religious roots and "wandered into the realm of political and social activism."[33]

In a follow-up message titled "Unauthorized Davidson Alumni Email", Davidson's alumni office said it "did not authorize the release of alumni email addresses, the use of our name or the contents of the email." It said its IT staff was investigating and "taking this matter very seriously".[citation needed]

Texas v. Pennsylvania

In December 2020, Murphy was one of 126 Republican members of the House of Representatives to sign an amicus brief in support of Texas v. Pennsylvania, a lawsuit filed at the United States Supreme Court contesting the results of the 2020 presidential election, in which Biden defeated Trump.[34][35] The Supreme Court declined to hear the case on the basis that Texas lacked standing under Article III of the Constitution to challenge the results of an election held by another state.[36][37][38]

Objection during 2021 United States Electoral College vote count

Main article: 2021 United States Electoral College vote count
In January 2021, Murphy was one of several Republican members of the House, led by Representative Mo Brooks of Alabama[39][40] and Senator Josh Hawley of Missouri,[41] who declared that they would formally object to the counting of the electoral votes of five swing states won by Biden during the January 6 joint session.[39][40][42] The objections would then trigger votes from both houses.[42]

At least 140 House Republicans reportedly planned to vote against the counting of electoral votes, despite the lack of any credible allegation of an irregularity that would have affected the election, and the allegations' rejections by courts, election officials, the Electoral College, and others,[39] and despite the fact that almost all of the Republican objectors had "just won elections in the very same balloting they are now claiming was fraudulently administered".[43]

Murphy said in a press release the day before the joint session, "I have been quite vocal in stating that to preserve the integrity of our elections, we must fight to ensure that every voice is heard, every legal vote is counted, and every count is confirmed", adding that he believed the actions of executive officials and judges in several states were "at best troubling and at worst seditious."[44][45]

After the storming of the United States Capitol by a mob of rioters supporting Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, Murphy voted to agree with the objection to Pennsylvania's results.[46][47]

Second impeachment of Donald Trump

Murphy did not cast a vote on Trump's second impeachment on January 13, 2021.[48][49] He released a statement that he "strongly opposed" the impeachment but he would miss the vote because he was with his wife as she recovered from a surgery.[49]

Abortion and rape

In June 2022, Murphy tweeted and two hours later deleted a comment regarding the overturning of Roe v. Wade in the case of rape: "no one forces anyone to have sex." According to the CDC, nearly one in five women is a victim of rape or attempted rape in her lifetime, and many men are raped as well.[50][51]

Shame! Shame! Shame!

[sheshe2]

84. Sounds like a really nice guy.

[Dustlawyer]

82. My Rep, Randy Weber, is on the list.

The jerk never does anything, meet with non donors, town halls, sponsor a bill…. Of course he will jump on this!

[Ladythatvotesblue]

85. Traitors!!!

ALL OF THEM!!!!!

[madamesilverspurs]

92. Not surprised to see Ken Buck (CO 4) on that list.

He's never been known as a towering intellect, and he has a record of multiple ethics violations. While he was the pathetically embarrassing DA of Weld County CO he hired one Jenna Ellis; maybe he thinks her blabbing might include bits about him.


.

[sheshe2]

94. He hired Jenna Ellis?

That tells you all you need to know.

[soldierant]

99. I'm surprised by one omission

I would have expected Lamborn to be among them.

Of course he has been around alot longer and probably has a better sense of self -preservation. His politics are certainly not an y better than theirs.

[SouthernDem4ever]

32. At the very least it's obstruction of justice

for which they should be indicted.

[wnylib]

46. What about the 14th amendment being applied to them?

They are interfering with a government process.

I also think that they should be indicted as co-conspirators with the criminal Trump gang.

[pazzyanne]

75. Looks like a list of the possible un-indited co-conspirators.

[ananda]

42. No "sort of" about it. They are out and out criminals.

...

[bucolic_frolic]

12. and conspiracy

[MontanaMama]

23. Whoopsie.

Forgot conspiracy. Rampant criming has made me slow on then-take…so many crimes.

[2naSalit]

39. Last time I checked.

Maybe they want to go to prison too.

[ZonkerHarris]

43. not sure but the words "obstruction of justice" are coming to mind.

[onetexan]

49. THIS!!☝️

[Hortensis]

86. Well, yes. And McCarthy's the Republican house caucus with its head in a vise.

Democracy as practiced by extremists who don't believe in compromise but will eventually accept a bone or two to release the nation's ankle.

[Walleye]

2. So they're going to go back on the deal they made with Biden over the debt ceiling?

[OMGWTF]

58. Never trust a Rethuglican.

[orangecrush]

4. Bring it

Enough rope to hang themselves

[bluestarone]

6. THIS should be the END of the republicon party

Bring it on you bastards!

[MOMFUDSKI]

15. They are working on their

demise as fast as they can. Let ‘‘em carry on.

[Evolve Dammit]

7. Fuck Gym Jordan, predator Gaetz and MTG. All of them deserve a special place in hell. 16 others?

[Blue Owl]

8. +1

Fuck 'em all...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. They are sick & tired of being wrong all the time, but double down instead of thinking it through.nt

[COL Mustard]

38. So much whining!

Or something like that.

[Justice matters.]

10. Crazy enough crazies: Will not pass.

Many R reps who are on the ballots in swing states will vote with Dems to raise the debt ceiling and fund the government. They see the polls...

Let the crazies of the Criminal caucus of the defunct Lincoln party make fascist fools of themselves all they want...

[brush]

11. Didn't McCarthy just float the idea of a temp funding package to avoid...

this BS when everyone returns after the summer recess?

How long before these winger magats have to concede and let the nation's government continue operating? And will they take McCarthy down with them?

[tornado34jh]

13. They bitch about "weaponization of the FBI and DOJ"?

But how much you are willing to bet they would do the same thing? Oh wait, they did when Trump was in power. So they should shut up!

[yliza]

44. They're weaponizing Congress

They’re bullies, they don’t know how to do anything else.

[onetexan]

100. Dems need to refer these crimes to DOJ ASAP

This is interference with a federal case & blackmailing the Congress of the united states.

Fascist wingnuts!!

[iscooterliberally]

14. It's the "House Free Dumb Caucus"

With free dumb comes great irresponsibilityness.

[onetexan]

48. THIS!!☝️buncha numbnuts in gov't

[calimary]

54. Yep. Definitely this.

The House Free Dumb Caucus. I like it!

I like it A LOT!

[Fiendish Thingy]

16. Wow, this is really getting good!

The Kamikaze Caucus is determined to bring the party down in flames.

If they stick with this strategy, I could see Dems picking up 30, maybe even 40 seats in 2024.

Please proceed, nutjobs.

[jmowreader]

17. They don't have the power to stop the NY and GA cases

There are only 45 of these assholes. That's not even a majority of the House Republican Caucus. If McCarthy simply sends a "you are not the boss of me" message to these pricks and bands the rest of the party against them, they can't do any damage.

But...will he do that?

[onetexan]

96. They dont have power to do crap. This is nothing short of interference

With a federal criminal case, not to mention blackmail. They should be charged with these shocking crimes.

[iluvtennis]

18. Fk them. They want to blackmail the Feds, Georgia, and New York to revert their indictments.

[sheshe2]

69. IKR?!

They think the courts are just going to drop all the indictments against trump and his clowns.

They are really f**king stupid if they think they can make this all go away.

[iluvtennis]

70. Exactly. n/t

[DFW]

19. "Then shut it down"

This has happened so often, it was even immortalized in a West Wing scene:

But the Fraud-Dumb Caucus is not the majority of the House. Now is the time for McCarthy to show he is not made of wet cardboard. Or, on the other hand, that he is.

[area51]

20. " ... monstrous, budget busting, pork filled, lobbyist handout...."

The nazis are projecting again.

[PatrickforB]

21. Well, Ken Buck is my representative and he is a member of the Freedumb Caucus.

Actually kind of an ignorant jerk.

But you know what? I'll be calling his office in DC tomorrow to explore with his staff whether he supports this.

[keopeli]

22. A stop-gap bill will pass easily with Dem votes, so this is preening and posturing, naturally. nt

[paleotn]

30. Yep. Enough Republicans in less than +5 red districts plus all the Dems will pass a stop gap.

The thing about Congress critters is they like their jobs and want to keep them. Republicans in close districts really have no choice given next year is an election year.

[moonshinegnomie]

68. the dems should make a quiet deal with a few close district republicans

basically offer their districts extra money taken directly from the freedum caucus districts. im sure there are at least 5 rethugs who want to keep their seats and what better way then bringing home the bacon

[msongs]

24. nazis used to surround the reichstag and raise a ruckus, then walk out en mass to deny quorum nt

[Turbineguy]

25. The hill they die on

has been chosen.

[lastlib]

64. Promises, promises!

I hope I can be there to watch that!

[mwb970]

26. This is certainly not the America I grew up in.

I feel so sorry for today's young people.

[TeamProg]

27. That's not going to win them any favors with the voters, that is for sure! nt

[paleotn]

28. Bring it, you wankers!

It's worked so well for them in the past.

Actually, it would seriously damage the election chances of numerous Repukes in marginal districts. It may go to the brink, but enough marginal Repukes will side with the Dems.

[Ligyron]

29. Then they are criminals, plain and simple, aiding and abetting.

In fact, the entire Republican party is a criminal operation by now, liable for RICO treatment.

Keep going Jack, as long as politicians are sacrosanct, we are doomed.

[DinahMoeHum]

31. Neah neah-neah neah neah booga booga booga

[CBHagman]

33. Every time I think I know the full stupidity of the Republican Party...

...they go that extra mile.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

51. They take the rhetorical question, "How stupid can you get?" as a challenge.

[Quanto Magnus]

74. GQP says,

"Hold my beer."

[KPN]

61. Lol. Yes they do! Puts going the extra mile in

a whole new light.

[BidenRocks]

34. RICO all of them!

They have obviously conspired to bring down America!
Book 'em Danno!

[slightlv]

63. They SHOULD be rico'd...

they were all in on the conspiracy to derail democracy with their lies of a stolen election. And I still think MTG was the backpacker in a hoodie!

[rubbersole]

35. Hey freedom fucks...

I've got your ultimatum right here. Bring it. Your idol just might be in the Fulton County Jail without his phone if recent history is any guide. The rest of the country is laughing at you morons. Blue tsunami is coming.

[yonder]

36. Their claims of law and order become flawed disorder

[Sogo]

37. I thought the debt ceiling was voted on in the spring and raised

until 2025.

I can't keep it all straight!!

[vanlassie]

40. My god Kevin's an imbecile.

[Grumpy Old Guy]

41. Please proceed.

Pass the popcorn.

[Pepsidog]

45. Do it if if they have the balls.

[bahboo]

47. suck it...assholes....

[lonely bird]

50. They don't want pork?

Cut all federal spending to their districts.

[Artcatt]

52. Shut it down

[Artcatt]

53. Shut it down

[James48]

55. Do you have the ransome demand note?

If it’s signed, that’s actually a felony to demand the government look away from
a criminal proceeding.
In my state, any citizen can arrest a felon and turn them over to the proper aithorities.

I want to see a copy of this blackmail note. Let’s see exactly what was written, and who signed it.

[Ohioboy]

56. Wow, they actually want to run the country by extortion- how destopian

Biden needs to use that amendment he was ready to use to pay America's bills last time and put an end to this shit.

Then, each of these House Free Dumb Asses needs to be indicted for conspiring to interfere with justice.

[Orrex]

57. Hmm... Sounds like obstruction of justice

And a direct violation of their oath to uphold the Constitution, not to mention making them accessories after the fact.

[Smackdown2019]

59. Sounds they are aiding the rebellious criminals

Therefore, they should not hold their office.

[Bristlecone]

60. F them and their BS Orwellian "Freedom" moniker.

They won’t get anywhere with this bullshit.

[The Wizard]

62. Indict the lot of them for sedition

obstruction and extortion. Throw away the key. Normal people (the majority) have had enough from these fascist bullies.

[Emile]

65. Fascists have no shame!

[Snackshack]

71. Terrorist Organizations

Do this all the time.

Demand the release of some POS or threaten violence and death if they are not released.

🖕them…as raygun said we don’t negotiate w/ terrorists.

[AKwannabe]

72. This is a bunch of shit!

This has got to stop!

This and Tuberville’s shit!

Has got to be stopped. Cannot believe there isn’t a way to put a stop to this kind of blackmail!

Fuck this. Fuck tRump. Fuck it all!

Fuck

[malaise]

77. Time for Jack to lock up,the coup plotters

In Congress
That is all

[twodogsbarking]

79. The way to prove that you were not trying to overthrow the government is to overthrow the goverment.

Y'all understand.

[Joinfortmill]

80. F- That

[Brainfodder]

81. D_E_S_P_E_R_A_T_I_O_N!

ALL DIRTY AND WE KNOW IT?

Arrest them all!

Thanks!



Crimes against Humanity no longer a thing?

[DJ Porkchop]

83. Fuck Troy Nehls and Fuck You for voting for him

[Beartracks]

87. So much projection.

"push Congress up against a December deadline to force the passage of yet another monstrous, budget busting, pork filled, lobbyist handout omnibus spending bill at year’s end."

Re-word some of that as "welfare for the rich" and you've got the Republican playbook.

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[DownriverDem]

88. Seriously

Is this even legal? I follow the news, but between trump & these crazy RWers it makes me sick to my stomach.

[Midnight Writer]

89. If it wasn't Trump, it would be something else. Their goal is to "Shut It Down".

They are not trying to solve anything.

It is not about Trump, it is not about spending, it is not about solving any problems America faces, even their imaginary ones.

It is about doing the craziest, most hurtful stunt they can think of.

Because that is how you get re-elected in today's Republican Party.

PS: Just watched a segment on CNBC and they agreed a recession from a government shutdown will be good because it would force interest rates down. Our investor class is as crazy as the Party they support.

[CrispyQ]

90. Thinking of the hundreds of thousands of people who still haven't recovered from the last shutdown.

I loathe these people.

[The Grand Illuminist]

91. They know nothing will be done about it.

And the vast majority of the HFC are in safe districts.

[Xipe Totec]

97. RICO their asses. nt

[prodigitalson]

98. I wonder how much longer there will even be a Republican party

They seem determined to alienate all but the ride or die maga types.