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BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 08:22 PM Sep 2023

Trump Georgia election trial juror names should be secret, DA tells judge

Source: CNBC

The Atlanta district attorney asked a judge Wednesday to keep jurors’ names secret in the criminal trials of former President Donald Trump and 18 other defendants on Georgia election conspiracy charges.

Fulton County DA Fani Willis in her motion also asked that courtroom cameras not show the jurors during any trial, and bar the publication of written descriptions of the people on a jury.

Willis cited the exposure of the purported names of the 23 members of the grand jury that indicted Trump and his co-defendants.

The DA used the term “doxing,” which is making public personal information about individuals, often with the intent of causing them emotional distress or physical harm. She said that police protected the grand juror to “prevent harassment and violence against them” after conspiracy theory websites published their supposed names and home addresses.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/06/atlanta-da-wants-trump-georgia-election-trial-juror-names-to-be-secret.html

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Trump Georgia election trial juror names should be secret, DA tells judge (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 OP
Good! I hope the judge agrees! 50 Shades Of Blue Sep 2023 #1
I fully agree!! bluestarone Sep 2023 #2
Judge will likely agree. What about sequestering jury? Silent Type Sep 2023 #3
Probably since... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #4
They haven't done jury selection for the actual trial yet BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #6
I meant the judge. 2naSalit Sep 2023 #8
The judge is already assigned - Scott McAfee BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #9
He's probably already receiving threats. 2naSalit Sep 2023 #11
As I understand it, he is relativey new BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #14
Agree but what about GA state law? /nt bucolic_frolic Sep 2023 #5
She's asking the judge to make exceptions via a motion BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #7
Have been an avid trial watcher for years...have never, ever seen the jurors shown on iluvtennis Sep 2023 #10
I agree - but unfortunately not in GA BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #13
Thanks so much for the clarifying info - much appreciated. nt iluvtennis Sep 2023 #16
You are welcome BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #17
That's true. We have usually been provided with the jury makeup, but not 4lbs Sep 2023 #15
"Death from a thousand cuts" has begun housecat Sep 2023 #12
agree republianmushroom Sep 2023 #18
There Are More Than a Few Truly Sick People Out There (How Else Did the yam Get Elected?) The Roux Comes First Sep 2023 #19
Duh, YEAH, we know what that man is by now Warpy Sep 2023 #20
Apparently the judge ruled last week that the camera will not show them BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 #22
Sound like an opportunity for Trump to commit another felony. Martin68 Sep 2023 #21
The media will be fighting each other for bragging rights to be the first to out one. Wonder Why Sep 2023 #23
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
3. Judge will likely agree. What about sequestering jury?
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 08:27 PM
Sep 2023

Seems like a long trial for that, but there is so much BS jurors will be subjected to.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
6. They haven't done jury selection for the actual trial yet
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 08:43 PM
Sep 2023

but the grand jurors have been the ones getting all the threats.

Willis wants to set the rules right up front before they start jury selection (and that includes not having a camera facing the jury, which is apparently something that is normally done there).

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
9. The judge is already assigned - Scott McAfee
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 08:50 PM
Sep 2023

and even then, if the trial is being televised, then his name would end up being mentioned often during the proceedings.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
14. As I understand it, he is relativey new
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 09:25 PM
Sep 2023

so this will literally be a "trial by fire" (and sorry for the pun ).

I think the County is bolstering the security...

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
7. She's asking the judge to make exceptions via a motion
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 08:45 PM
Sep 2023

I expect the code does allow exceptions like that.

iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
10. Have been an avid trial watcher for years...have never, ever seen the jurors shown on
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 08:52 PM
Sep 2023

TV broadcast/You Tube stream. Their identities are always protected.

In the trials I've watched over the years, information of the demographic makeup of the jurors & alternate jurors have been provided...but that's it.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
13. I agree - but unfortunately not in GA
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 09:20 PM
Sep 2023

That issue came up early when the mention of the trial being televised first occurred. All of this was to provide "transparency". But it was also emphasized that it was up to the judge to decide how much or how little.

Apparently this judge had made some preliminary rulings last week (excerpt reference to "West" is referring to a UGA First Amendment professor Sonja R. West) -

Trump’s Georgia trial is readied for TV, while others are hard to see

By Paul Farhi

Updated September 1, 2023 at 4:30 p.m. EDT|Published September 1, 2023 at 4:23 p.m. EDT

(snip)

“The American people have a right to judge the evidence and the arguments for themselves,” she said. “Cameras are essentially a technology that lets us make the courtroom big enough for anyone who is interested to have a front-row seat.” West said live TV or streaming creates more public interest and “greater emotional impact” by enabling viewers “to see things like facial expression, gestures, and body language.”

It may also show the public what didn’t happen — a factor in combating misinformation and conspiracy theories. In his ruling, McAfee essentially agreed. In addition to a streaming camera, he agreed that news organizations could have a shared TV camera, known as a “pool” camera, in court during the trial. He also said reporters could bring smartphones and laptops into his courtroom, ensuring minute-by-minute updates on social media.

McAfee said in his order that the use of laptops and cellphones “will not disrupt the administration of justice” as long as they’re not use to make or receive phone calls or to record the proceedings. The order also includes some protection for jurors; cameras will not be permitted to show them, a measure designed for their safety and to ensure that outsiders won’t seek to influence them.

The access requests were made by a group of Atlanta TV stations and a coalition of news organizations that included The Washington Post, CNN and the New York Times.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/09/01/trump-trial-livestream-televised/


So I think Fani Willis is trying to complete the "anonymity" piece by keeping their names out of the record too.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
17. You are welcome
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 09:55 PM
Sep 2023

That state has always freaked me out (and I have relatives that live down there ).

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
15. That's true. We have usually been provided with the jury makeup, but not
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 09:26 PM
Sep 2023

their actual names or faces.

I.E. They might reveal that a jury may consist of say, 8 men, 4 women, ages 30 to 70. 5 white, 3 black, 2 Latino, 2 Asian.

That's all we would get.

However, knowing the Dumpster's compunction for blurting out names and causing all sorts of additional problems, DA Fani Willis could be trying to limit that information to him and his lawyers. Hence the "doxxing" worry cited.








The Roux Comes First

(2,278 posts)
19. There Are More Than a Few Truly Sick People Out There (How Else Did the yam Get Elected?)
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 10:19 PM
Sep 2023

And it is past time that both the plain folks just doing their jury service and the others being paid to sustain our system of justice be properly protected. Leaks and attempts to threaten should be promptly punished. Severely.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
20. Duh, YEAH, we know what that man is by now
Wed Sep 6, 2023, 10:32 PM
Sep 2023

I think they should be seated behind a screen so no one in the courtroom can try to ID them "for the cause."

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