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riversedge

(80,760 posts)
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 06:06 PM Sep 2023

Trump has mystery office near Mar-a-Lago, reportedly with 'boxes everywhere'

Source: daily kos


Monday, September 11, 2023 at 4:20:18p CDT


Former President Donald Trump is currently facing 40 counts in the investigation involving classified documents kept at his Mar-a-Lago resort. But despite the indictment detailing how Trump allegedly transported some of those documents away and even reportedly showed them off to a writer at his New Jersey golf facility, it appears the FBI never searched this nearby office or other Trump locations.

Considering the number of properties Trump owns, searching them all would be a challenge. But it seems like an exception might be made for the office detailed in an NBC report. That office is just 10 minutes down the road from Mar-a-Lago, in a building that also houses offices of the Secret Service and IRS. Not only is it reported that there were “boxes everywhere” in the office, it is also known to have housed classified materials at one time.

And best of all, the office is paid for with taxpayer funds.

The office in question is on North Flagler Drive in West Palm Beach, Florida. According to NBC, this location is being rented out of funds intended for Trump’s post-presidential office. However, those who walk in expecting to find any kind of staff, or even Trump’s name on the door, are going to be disappointed.

The office nameplate is covered over with a blank piece of paper. There’s no sign on the door, or on the frosted glass window. For a guy who loves to stamp his name on everything he owns in giant gold letters, this location is conspicuously austere. The address is also not listed on the web page dedicated to Trump’s post-White House office. Even Trump spokesperson Steven Cheung claims he “never heard of” the North Flagler office.
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Read more: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/11/2192682/-Trump-has-mystery-office-near-Mar-a-Lago-reportedly-with-boxes-everywhere

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Trump has mystery office near Mar-a-Lago, reportedly with 'boxes everywhere' (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2023 OP
I worked for an attorney in that building and was in there often to give them mail we received in SheilaAnn Sep 2023 #1
fbi was in there? that's really weird orleans Sep 2023 #7
Trump owned a condo building about two doors down from the North Flagler offices back in the day. nt SheilaAnn Sep 2023 #13
I think this particular FBI office was for probation purposes. It was pretty heavily reinforced SheilaAnn Sep 2023 #14
Cool you're so close. What are "probation purposes" ? Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #24
Many released prisoners still have to report to probation for a while. n/t SheilaAnn Sep 2023 #32
yes, the article said the FBI had office in same building riversedge Sep 2023 #29
LOL it just gets murkier each day bucolic_frolic Sep 2023 #2
... 2naSalit Sep 2023 #3
This post deserves a recommendation. Ptah Sep 2023 #10
Thanks! 2naSalit Sep 2023 #12
But not funny (IIRC). OMGWTF Sep 2023 #38
The P.O.S. needs to die in prison Botany Sep 2023 #4
No one has ever answered... Why do the secret agencies Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #25
I posted this earlier PJMcK Sep 2023 #36
Thanks. So agencies know what Trump has if anything Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author orleans Sep 2023 #5
Sounds like the FBI should get another warrant. Lonestarblue Sep 2023 #6
I thought we already knew about this place? oldsoftie Sep 2023 #8
I'm so sick and tired of this man Deuxcents Sep 2023 #9
The FBI should have listed this location for the FIRST probable cause warrant. I don't get it. ancianita Sep 2023 #11
seems like a whole lot of boxes for the FBI just to ignore IMHO riversedge Sep 2023 #30
I hear you. Maybe there's something they and Smith know that we don't. I don't want to jump ancianita Sep 2023 #31
I would bet MorbidButterflyTat Sep 2023 #44
That would be a violation of federal law, which prohibits partisan Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2023 #43
I wonder what, aside from national secrets and dignity, the Orange Menace took from the LoisB Sep 2023 #15
Probably down to sheets and towels. n/t Harker Sep 2023 #19
That would not surprise me at all. LoisB Sep 2023 #22
Joe Biden doesn't get any credit for moving into a Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2023 #26
And Melons demanded a brand new shower and toilet when she moved into the WH OMGWTF Sep 2023 #39
Doesn't everyone have a shed full of presidential documents secretly stashed!!?? Alexander Of Assyria Sep 2023 #34
Ask the co-conspirators. Certainly Trump never carried a box in there. Someone else did. nt wiggs Sep 2023 #16
I'd be willing to bet Mr.Bill Sep 2023 #17
Yes, it's hard to believe he wouldn't be. ShazzieB Sep 2023 #20
I always wondered how many other "locations" and receivers of classified docs this SOB has/had. Evolve Dammit Sep 2023 #18
Are you surprised, I'm not. Many at the DoJ didn't want Mar-a-Lago searched. republianmushroom Sep 2023 #21
The reasons other areas weren't searched... Shipwack Sep 2023 #42
Exactly! Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2023 #45
Wouldn't all records be subject to the Presidential Records Act and need to be retrieved? nature-lover Sep 2023 #23
Why haven't all of his properties been searched by now? Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2023 #27
Need a warrant. Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2023 #46
Needs somebody willing to apply for a warrant. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2023 #47
Yep. Many in DOJ fought the idea to search Pissolini's palace Dark n Stormy Knight Sep 2023 #48
A room with a toilet, cheap chandelier, and stacks of boxes Blue Owl Sep 2023 #28
Seeing how FBI had at least one agent on Putin's payroll... Kid Berwyn Sep 2023 #33
If we know about it orangecrush Sep 2023 #35
I bet if you were to dig up his Ex Wife's grave sellitman Sep 2023 #37
Thought his wcret office was the crapper. Smackdown2019 Sep 2023 #41

SheilaAnn

(10,708 posts)
1. I worked for an attorney in that building and was in there often to give them mail we received in
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 06:10 PM
Sep 2023

error. It's two buildings from my residence (apt. bldg.) and I believe the FBI is in there also. Gets stranger and stranger.

orleans

(36,906 posts)
7. fbi was in there? that's really weird
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 06:28 PM
Sep 2023

keith olbermann mentioned this flagler office in his podcast for today--said something about trump having a box or boxes moved there and then back to his trash hotel

SheilaAnn

(10,708 posts)
13. Trump owned a condo building about two doors down from the North Flagler offices back in the day. nt
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 07:18 PM
Sep 2023

SheilaAnn

(10,708 posts)
14. I think this particular FBI office was for probation purposes. It was pretty heavily reinforced
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 07:22 PM
Sep 2023

with shields in front of the counter. I loved going in there...LOL.

2naSalit

(102,689 posts)
12. Thanks!
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 07:06 PM
Sep 2023

I've thought of using it in the past but now was a great opportunity. Better than most!

Botany

(77,283 posts)
4. The P.O.S. needs to die in prison
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 06:20 PM
Sep 2023

No doubt these were government documents from which he was going to sell out America with
and or to trade with Russia, China, and or Saudi Arabia.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. No one has ever answered... Why do the secret agencies
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 08:56 PM
Sep 2023

not know what's missing? As I've said before, I log into a very important log when getting a pedicure. Why don't entities that produce secret govt docs have security and control as good as my salon?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
40. Thanks. So agencies know what Trump has if anything
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 12:41 PM
Sep 2023

still? Yikes. Guess he could always say Nope don't have and blame his WH staff huh

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Lonestarblue

(13,462 posts)
6. Sounds like the FBI should get another warrant.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 06:28 PM
Sep 2023

Is this where the documents with all the empty folders went?

Deuxcents

(26,851 posts)
9. I'm so sick and tired of this man
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 06:39 PM
Sep 2023

Allowed to rally and spew lies while he wants nothing more than to destroy us. His trail of crimes go farther than we will ever know, I fear. But in the meantime..he’s free to keep at it.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
11. The FBI should have listed this location for the FIRST probable cause warrant. I don't get it.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 07:04 PM
Sep 2023

More from the OP...

It’s reported that several of Trump’s aides working for his campaign or PAC have worked out of the post-presidential office, presumably meaning the North Flagler location. That would be a violation of federal law, which prohibits partisan activities in what is a government facility. Asked about this, Cheung reportedly failed to respond.

But the bigger question about this office is one that could be applied to many Trump properties: What’s in the boxes, and why hasn’t the FBI looked?

In an interview with Business Insider, Bush-era special prosecutor Peter Zeidenberg suggested that the FBI was unlikely to search other locations because they were not “gonna go just looking around.”

However, since there is already convincing evidence that this location held at least one box of classified documents, and some of the charges against Trump and co-defendants Walt Nauta and Carlos De Oliveira concern attempts to conceal documents … shouldn’t that be sufficient cause to get a few search warrants? Besides, Trump regularly accuses the FBI of being engaged in a “witch hunt.” Compared with that, a fishing expedition seems pretty benign.

According to a February article in The Guardian, at least one box of documents with classified markings were transported to Mar-a-Lago from “another office in Florida” some time after the FBI completed its search of Trump’s resort. These documents appear to have come from the North Flagler office.

Private parties hired by Trump’s legal team searched the office, along with Trump Tower and the Bedminister golf site. The Department of Justice was reportedly unhappy with the Mar-a-Lago search and pressed for a repeat visit to that location. No additional private searches appear to have taken place at Bedminster or North Flagler.

Many of the documents from the box at North Flagler appear to have been related to Trump’s schedules in the White House. In January, the federal grand jury investigating the classified documents case issued a subpoena for one of those documents, a folder marked “Classified Evening Briefing.” That document was reportedly found in Trump’s bedroom.





IF this is true, then the next question is, did the FBI completely inform the DOJ? If not, heads should roll.

IF this is not true, this might be some kind of sneaky setup to discredit the DOJ's and overall government's thoroughness, credibility and trustworthiness.

Chris Wray's got some 'splainin' to do. At the same time I'm wondering what Jack Smith is going to do about this.

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
31. I hear you. Maybe there's something they and Smith know that we don't. I don't want to jump
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 12:45 AM
Sep 2023

to conclusions.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
43. That would be a violation of federal law, which prohibits partisan
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 03:46 PM
Sep 2023

activities in what is a government facility."

So, Iike the White House? Tell it to the judge.

LoisB

(13,002 posts)
15. I wonder what, aside from national secrets and dignity, the Orange Menace took from the
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 07:33 PM
Sep 2023

White House?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
26. Joe Biden doesn't get any credit for moving into a
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 09:01 PM
Sep 2023

McDonald's grease/orange hair dye laden residence! Whatever cleaning team he had deserves 20 stars!

OMGWTF

(5,130 posts)
39. And Melons demanded a brand new shower and toilet when she moved into the WH
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 12:35 PM
Sep 2023

because you know, a black person used it before her.

Come on Karma, do your thing!!!

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
34. Doesn't everyone have a shed full of presidential documents secretly stashed!!??
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 09:18 AM
Sep 2023

Give the criminal treason a break!

wiggs

(8,803 posts)
16. Ask the co-conspirators. Certainly Trump never carried a box in there. Someone else did. nt
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 07:45 PM
Sep 2023

ShazzieB

(22,567 posts)
20. Yes, it's hard to believe he wouldn't be.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 08:12 PM
Sep 2023

We know how thorough he is and that he knows what he's doing and doesn't mess around.

This is concerning stuff, but I'm not going to set my hair on fire just yet. Not with Jack Smith in charge.

Evolve Dammit

(21,766 posts)
18. I always wondered how many other "locations" and receivers of classified docs this SOB has/had.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 07:59 PM
Sep 2023

republianmushroom

(22,310 posts)
21. Are you surprised, I'm not. Many at the DoJ didn't want Mar-a-Lago searched.
Mon Sep 11, 2023, 08:12 PM
Sep 2023

The FBI didn't search BEDMINSTER.
When do we stop the coddling ?
31 months and counting

Shipwack

(3,061 posts)
42. The reasons other areas weren't searched...
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 03:34 PM
Sep 2023

... could be that he couldn't prove probable cause to the local judge.

They had tangible proof that secret material was at Mar-a-lago because Trump gave back documents that had been there. He then claimed (for a second time) that there were no more present.

Smith knew that was a lie and convinced a judge likewise, so a warrant was issued.

We don't know how many other requests were made and shot down. Maybe a Bedminster warrant was requested, but they couldn't provide significant proof.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
45. Exactly!
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 03:50 PM
Sep 2023

And those same DOJ peeps who were balking at even doing that are part of the team investigating him. Gumming up the works as much as they can get away with it, I'll bet.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
46. Need a warrant.
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 03:52 PM
Sep 2023

I can't see how there's not probable cause to search every single place he's ever been associated with, but judges who need to sign off on the warrants may not agree.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
47. Needs somebody willing to apply for a warrant.
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 03:57 PM
Sep 2023

There appears to be a reluctance to treat traitortrump as a criminal, still.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,484 posts)
48. Yep. Many in DOJ fought the idea to search Pissolini's palace
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 04:06 PM
Sep 2023

and I suspect continue to resist any effort to hold him accountable. As I said elsewhere in this thread, I suspect those same DOJ emoyees are doing what they can (or not doing what they should) so their messiah won't be convicted of any of his multitudinous misdeeds.

Kid Berwyn

(24,326 posts)
33. Seeing how FBI had at least one agent on Putin's payroll...
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 07:49 AM
Sep 2023

…and Putin helped Trump.

Wouldn’t it make sense someone who doesn’t want to dismantle NATO ran the investigation into the boxes of top secret documents?

sellitman

(11,745 posts)
37. I bet if you were to dig up his Ex Wife's grave
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 12:30 PM
Sep 2023

You would find some classified documents under her shriveled ass.

Smackdown2019

(1,355 posts)
41. Thought his wcret office was the crapper.
Tue Sep 12, 2023, 01:21 PM
Sep 2023

Thought hus secret office was the crapper. After all, thats were he dispose of paperwork....

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