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groundloop

(13,851 posts)
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 11:08 AM Sep 2023

California governor vetoes bill banning robotrucks without safety drivers

Source: Reuters

California Governor Gavin Newsom late on Friday vetoed a bill to prevent heavy-duty driverless trucks from operating in the state, in a relief for companies developing autonomous technology to haul goods across the U.S.

The labor-backed Assembly Bill 316, which requires a trained human driver to be present in autonomous vehicles weighing over 10,001 pounds, was passed by a heavy majority in both houses of the state legislature.

"Considering... the existing regulatory framework that presently and sufficiently governs this particular technology, this bill is not needed at this time," Newsom said in a veto message on Friday.

A veto by the governor can still be overturned if the legislature chooses to vote in favor of the bill with a two-thirds majority in each house. This, however, is rare and has not happened in California since 1979.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/california-governor-vetoes-bill-banning-robotrucks-without-safety-drivers-2023-09-23/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=Newsletter&utm_campaign=Technology-Roundup&utm_term=092323

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cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
2. Personally I'm not in favor of vehicles not controlled by humans as I can foresee the danger of
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 11:43 AM
Sep 2023

them being hacked and turned into weapons.
One example is gasoline carrying trucks being used to crash under bridges potentially causing a fire that destroys it or used to crash into elementary schools.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
3. I think this advanced tech on commercial vehicles is too new and dangerously unreliable. n/t
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 12:03 PM
Sep 2023

Furthermore, steady living-wage jobs for humans are still needed in this country; bite your excessive profits that you'll still require for liability insurance, corps! EV good; driverless w/o on-board driver/pilot/tech, bad! Does everyone even have broad-band services yet? Commentor is correct about remote cyber-security being just one other concern.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
12. I don't have to imagine this happening with a human
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 06:36 PM
Sep 2023

As it already does. Given the lack of professionalism exhibited by too many commercial drivers, I can certainly imagine an automated system that is safer.

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
6. I would rather Gavin banned the robotrucks while saving trucker's jobs and protecting motorists
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 12:44 PM
Sep 2023

calimary

(90,021 posts)
8. I ordinarily trust what Gavin Newsom says.
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 01:39 PM
Sep 2023

He usually can be counted on to make smart decisions. Not sure about this one, though.

highplainsdem

(62,157 posts)
10. There are 3.5 million truck drivers in the US. It's one of the very best jobs
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 02:11 PM
Sep 2023

for people without college degrees.

But I guess all those drivers can just find equally high-paying and often interesting jobs elsewhere as employers replace them with AI.

MichMan

(17,151 posts)
13. Sitting in a driverless truck doing nothing all day doesn't sound very interesting to me
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 08:34 AM
Sep 2023

What happens if they doze off?

highplainsdem

(62,157 posts)
14. What happens to 3.5 million truckers and their families if their jobs
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 08:41 AM
Sep 2023

are lost to self-driving trucks?

That's a big loss in tax revenue, too, and contributions to SS and Medicare.

MichMan

(17,151 posts)
15. Job occupations change all the time.
Mon Sep 25, 2023, 09:29 AM
Sep 2023

Newspaper printing press operators, bank tellers, check processors, ditch diggers, full service gas station attendants, ice deliverers, the list goes on and on....

At one time in our country, a large percentage of people were employed in agriculture; with modern farm equipment, a much greater output could be achieved with significantly less people.


Do you have the same concern for refinery workers, auto mechanics, and auto workers? Many of whom will find themselves unemployed when EV vehicles become dominant. Should the move towards EV be halted in order to save their jobs?

 

BlueIn_W_Pa

(842 posts)
11. He's owned by Silicon Valley
Sat Sep 23, 2023, 02:33 PM
Sep 2023

This is just stupid, not even from a labor standpoint, but pure safety of the public. CA already goes out of its' way to protect these companies from liability anyway, so no surprise with what he did here.

Just one example from a few years ago:

Manufacturer Liability for Collisions Caused by AV Technology. The Nov. 30 Regulations delete a provision that held a manufacturer liable if autonomous vehicle technology was found to be at fault for a vehicle collision involving one of its test vehicles.


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