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BumRushDaShow

(169,861 posts)
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 12:37 PM Sep 2023

Navy to start randomly testing SEALs, special warfare troops for steroids

Last edited Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:37 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: AP

Updated 1:18 PM EDT, September 29, 2023


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Navy will begin randomly testing its special operations forces for steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs beginning in November, taking a groundbreaking step that military leaders have long resisted.

Rear Adm. Keith Davids, commander of Naval Special Warfare Command, announced the new program Friday in a message to his force, calling it necessary to protect their health and military readiness. The Navy will be the first to begin random testing, but Army Special Operations Command said it will soon follow suit, although no start date has been set.

The Army and Navy have the largest and most well known special operations forces, including the Navy SEALs and Army’s Delta Force, Green Berets and Ranger Regiment. They are often called on to do the military’s most sensitive and dangerous missions. The physical and mental challenges of getting through their selection and training programs and the pressures of the risky missions can lead to some to use performance-enhancing drugs, although officials say the numbers are small.

The use of these drugs has been a somewhat limited but persistent problem across the military, but leaders have balked at increased testing because it is highly specialized, costly and requires contracting with the few labs that do such work. The military services have done occasional tests when they perceive a problem with an individual service member, but they must get special permission from the Pentagon to do routine, random testing.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/navy-seal-steroid-testing-drugs-883a7262652224ac382d22fd38f90940



Article updated.

Original article -

Updated 12:29 PM EDT, September 29, 2023


WASHINGTON (AP) — The Navy will begin randomly testing its special operations forces for steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs beginning in November, taking a groundbreaking step that military leaders have long resisted.

Rear Adm. Keith Davids, commander of Naval Special Warfare Command, announced the new program Friday in a message to his force, calling it necessary to protect their health, safety and military readiness. The Navy will be the first to begin random testing, but Army Special Operations Command said it will soon follow suit, although no start date has been set.

The Army and Navy have the largest and most well known special operations forces, including the Navy SEALs and Army’s Delta Force, Green Berets and Ranger Regiment. They are often called on to do the military’s most sensitive and dangerous missions. The physical and mental challenges of getting through their selection and training programs and the pressures of the risky missions can lead to some to use performance-enhancing drugs, although officials say the numbers are small.

The use of these drugs has been a somewhat limited but persistent problem across the military, but leaders have balked at increased testing because it is highly specialized, costly and requires contracting with the few labs that do such work. The military services have done occasional tests when they perceive a problem with an individual service member, but they must get special permission from the Pentagon to do routine, random testing.
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Navy to start randomly testing SEALs, special warfare troops for steroids (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2023 OP
Good... Drum Sep 2023 #1
Yes! Hopefully this new development will generate some momentum in that direction. Long overdue. TheRickles Sep 2023 #10
I'm curious how they know it's a limited problem if they Phoenix61 Sep 2023 #2
Just cause, cause that is what we will be told. republianmushroom Sep 2023 #3
Good. Lost respect for "Seals" when photos were released of them beating handcuffed and blindfolded Silent Type Sep 2023 #4
Need to check the cops... a lot of the incidents seem to be Roid-rage ashredux Sep 2023 #5
Term limits underpants Sep 2023 #6
What about defense contractors? Puppyjive Sep 2023 #7
I was a defense contractor orangecrush Sep 2023 #9
Now if we can only orangecrush Sep 2023 #8
Trust but verify - well-known researched side effects of use can become devastatingly Backseat Driver Sep 2023 #11
In that case, perhaps "performance-enhancing" might need revising. Igel Sep 2023 #20
Now do the cops. cbabe Sep 2023 #12
Sounds to me like they may be seeing some problems with "ROID RAGE..." hlthe2b Sep 2023 #13
How much ya bench? Doc_Technical Sep 2023 #14
I predict Zeitghost Sep 2023 #15
Good move. Now let's do all the cops & sheriffs in America -- too damn much reflexive violence. nt Hekate Sep 2023 #16
Roid Rage. Feels very alpha male. Very Military and police. NCDem47 Sep 2023 #17
Test the police!!! PlutosHeart Sep 2023 #18
YYEESSSS! mopinko Sep 2023 #19
Having worked around SEALs throughout my 20-year Navy career... SKKY Sep 2023 #21
What does "on the nut" mean? Google was no help... nt Shipwack Sep 2023 #22
"On the nut" is an expression for someone using steroids... SKKY Sep 2023 #23

TheRickles

(3,394 posts)
10. Yes! Hopefully this new development will generate some momentum in that direction. Long overdue.
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:15 PM
Sep 2023
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
4. Good. Lost respect for "Seals" when photos were released of them beating handcuffed and blindfolded
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 12:50 PM
Sep 2023

Iraqis. I guess the big bad Seals sent photos home to their wives/girlfriends to bind into a coffee table book.

ashredux

(2,929 posts)
5. Need to check the cops... a lot of the incidents seem to be Roid-rage
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:05 PM
Sep 2023

A lot of the cops, who have overreacted, or obviously pumped up.

Puppyjive

(991 posts)
7. What about defense contractors?
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:10 PM
Sep 2023

This shit is rampant with defense contractors. I personally know someone who has to keep up with the younger guys so he injects it daily. Got his wife hooked on them. They are weirdos now and getting a divorce.

orangecrush

(30,336 posts)
9. I was a defense contractor
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:14 PM
Sep 2023


And I was/am pretty weird.

Possibly you care confusing steroids with other, more interesting drugs?

orangecrush

(30,336 posts)
8. Now if we can only
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:12 PM
Sep 2023

Get the Spetsnaz to agree to test their operators, so we don't end up with a steroid gap...

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
11. Trust but verify - well-known researched side effects of use can become devastatingly
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:17 PM
Sep 2023

pathological as communicated to the brain's neural systems including that which controls emotional expressions throughout these competitively and athletically well-trained humans that exaggerate physical and mental capacities of "fight or flight," the most benign of which is very early aging and sterility; worst cases lead to very real "roid rage" fatalities of themselves or others.

Igel

(37,541 posts)
20. In that case, perhaps "performance-enhancing" might need revising.
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 08:43 PM
Sep 2023

"Hey, we're fighting the enemy. Can't have anything that enhances performances. You don't want to bring a selective-fire weapon to a musket fight. Wouldn't be quite proper, according to Hoyle."

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
15. I predict
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 01:51 PM
Sep 2023

An uptick in business at TRT clinics in San Diego and other locations near SEAL bases.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
16. Good move. Now let's do all the cops & sheriffs in America -- too damn much reflexive violence. nt
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 02:21 PM
Sep 2023

NCDem47

(3,470 posts)
17. Roid Rage. Feels very alpha male. Very Military and police.
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 02:50 PM
Sep 2023

NOT painting with a braod brush here. But it's easy to see how those cultures would embrace muscle mania.

PlutosHeart

(1,445 posts)
18. Test the police!!!
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 03:21 PM
Sep 2023

That I guarantee will be an eye opener.

Just research anabolic steroids and that is an education in itself.

mopinko

(73,731 posts)
19. YYEESSSS!
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 03:42 PM
Sep 2023

i swear so much of the crazy we see is roids.
every cop in a use of force complaint shd get tested. every bulked up cop that doesnt spend all day on the gym shd b tested.
you’ll ferret out a lot of trouble makers this way.

SKKY

(12,801 posts)
21. Having worked around SEALs throughout my 20-year Navy career...
Fri Sep 29, 2023, 09:06 PM
Sep 2023

...I honestly never once saw a SEAL, or heard of a SEAL, who was on the nut. I wonder if it's a newer trend.

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