Rep. Bowman under investigation for pulling fire alarm as McCarthy compares it to Jan. 6
Source: NBC News
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy called for Rep. Jamaal Bowman, D-N.Y., to be punished after he pulled a fire alarm in a Capitol office building on Saturday, comparing it to the Jan 6 rioters who attacked the building.
"When you think about how other people were treated when they come in and wanted to change the course of what was happening in the building," McCarthy said.
McCarthy went on to say that the Ethics Committee should take the pulled fire alarm "seriously."
"This should not go without punishment," McCarthy said. Im gonna have a discussion with the Democratic leader about it. But this should not go without punishment. This is an embarrassment.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jamaal-bowman-pulled-fire-alarm-rcna118230
It is still an allegation, but even if it's true I cannot say that I would not volunteer to do the same thing were I in the House.
Kennah
(14,578 posts)BeyondGeography
(41,061 posts)Lovie777
(22,852 posts)yardwork
(69,293 posts)COL Mustard
(8,179 posts)Political discourse. Right?
PJMcK
(25,045 posts)Youre not allowed to yell Fire! in a theater. Pulling an alarm in the absence of a fire seems similar.
Democrats should not stoop to juvenile acts. Were better than that.
agingdem
(8,828 posts)William769
(59,147 posts)niyad
(132,020 posts)House office buildig, NOT a fire alarm in the Capitol. The otherr side does not need our help.
agingdem
(8,828 posts)no more playing nice!!!....Bowman apologized...good enough...still waiting for Kev to throw George Santos overboard and Jim Jordan to honor a congressional subpoena and Kev to shut down the Biden impeachment MAGA craptacular and Marge Greene to get her ass censured/ejected from the House for displaying porn pics and Boebert for publicly grabbing her date by the balls in a theatre (Beetlejuice, really??) and Matt Gaetz trafficking underage girls and Jim Jordan (again) for excusing sexual abuse...
CTyankee
(68,124 posts)agingdem
(8,828 posts)I think of House Republicans as salacious gutter scum...that Boebert and Greene are not held to account by the less than repugnant GOP House members defines the party of hate and hypocrisy....
CTyankee
(68,124 posts)such things" which is fine with me. I find it difficult to chat about in conversations with people I don't know really well, and not at all with my grown children.
William769
(59,147 posts)Anyone who says otherwise in this thread, well shame on them.
niyad
(132,020 posts)niyad
(132,020 posts)niyad
(132,020 posts)PJMcK
(25,045 posts)My first response was written based on early reporting. Oops.
niyad
(132,020 posts)was interested to see how it would turn out.
dweller
(28,308 posts)🤔
✌🏻
But with M U S I C
BlueTsunami2018
(4,976 posts)What a dumb thing to do.
Never give your enemy ammunition when theyre busy killing themselves.
MOMFUDSKI
(7,080 posts)He lost his head apparently.
niyad
(132,020 posts)jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)is the very best time to give them ammunition, so long as they don't change their tactics.
niyad
(132,020 posts)niyad
(132,020 posts)hadEnuf
(3,601 posts)Second, if he did maybe he suspected a fire. All of that smoldering shit in the House can be confusing y'know.
Third, GFY McCarthy.
Kennah
(14,578 posts)dsc
(53,382 posts)his spokesperson admits he did it. He did it.
Rebl2
(17,665 posts)thing to do. He should be fined at least. Its not the same as January 6th though.
niyad
(132,020 posts)relayerbob
(7,417 posts)Yes, he should be punished, along with a boatload of others. This sort of destructive behavior in Congress needs to stop. Period. Regardless of party affiliation.
niyad
(132,020 posts)vanlassie
(6,242 posts)I keep telling his hes an embarrassment to our District.
Funny, tho, hes not embarrassed to lie to our faces day in and day out, but a guy in the other party makes a mistake and Kevins mortified?
TNNurse
(7,536 posts)Do not do stupid stuff. The GOP has that covered.
niyad
(132,020 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)Such things do not bring honor to his office. Such behavior is not only disruptive and disrespectful, but it also undermines the democratic process that our society relies upon. To restore public trust and demonstrate a commitment to the principles of good governance, I believe it is imperative for Bowman to face appropriate consequences.
We deserve leaders who act with integrity and respect for the democratic process. The public's trust in our elected officials is essential for a thriving democracy, and it is imperative that we hold our representatives to the highest standards of conduct. I believe it is crucial to hold our elected officials to the highest standards of integrity and ethical conduct.
hadEnuf
(3,601 posts)I know I'm not that worried over a high school prank pulled by a democrat....
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)Two wrongs don't make a right.
When they go low, we go high.
When someone fights their opponents in a cesspool, they end up covered in shit too.
I really don't see any reason to try and justify or excuse his behavior by characterizing it as a harmless "prank". He's an adult. He's an elected Representative. He should know better. We deserve better.
My regard and respect for him has been greatly diminished. I believe that Bowman should seriously consider resigning from office. By doing so, they would demonstrate a willingness to accept the consequences of his actions and send the message that (as I mentioned earlier) we deserves leaders who act with integrity and respect for the democratic process.
He did nobody any favors. Not himself. Not the institution. Not our party. Not the country.
niyad
(132,020 posts)niyad
(132,020 posts)judgment, does it not?
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)I'd like to see a photo of exactly how confusing and poorly worded the signage or lettering on fire alarm handle actually is. The whole thing is so bizarre. I need to see for myself, more than a blurry, still, security camera video from a distance of 50 feet.
niyad
(132,020 posts)the "fire alarm" is, and has been since yesterday, posted here on DU. The image is very clear. But tell yourself whatever you need.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)>> "But tell yourself whatever you need."
Wow! That's not a nice attitude to take with me. And here I thought we were on the verge of becoming friends. Oh well.
C-ya. Bye.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)
azureblue
(2,724 posts)Those red signs on the doors, in the photo of him pulling the alarm..
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)But I do clearly see the signpost "Emergency Exit Only" sign. What's unclear about that?
On the door: Are these new signs? Perhaps someone felt that large print was needed.
MichMan
(17,092 posts)hadEnuf
(3,601 posts)and expect higher standards from them too. But we are so willing to hang are own instead.
These people are sewerage. We might have to get a little dirty fighting them.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)No matter who they are, I expect our elected representatives to have the highest ethical standards. We don't need to prove that we're "just as bad" or "just as mean" as they are. Instead we must show that we are BETTER than they are and SMARTER than they are. It amazes me that anyone would oppose such a simple and honorable proposition.
hadEnuf
(3,601 posts)How's that been working out? Taking kicks to the groin and sand in the eyes while chirping "see, we are not like the Republicans" has gotten us GW Bush, Donald Trump and a huge hate media empire that dominates American politics.
The "high road" can quickly become a road of delusion and we are already several miles down that road.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)Not voting for Biden's agenda because it's not "liberal enough" has also caused a lot of problems. Threatening to primary Biden and withholding support also weakens the party. How's that working out?
hadEnuf
(3,601 posts)The enemy is rolling us with tanks, but we won't use ours because we don't want to be like them.
Oopsie Daisy
(6,670 posts)You don't have to like the answer, but that's the one you're going to get. I'm not the one constantly trying to change the subject. But, you do you. Have a nice day.
Kennah
(14,578 posts)niyad
(132,020 posts)jvill
(459 posts)It was to get more time to review the CR before passing it in a rush to ensure there were no poison pills.
THIS is why the Dems lose! THIS thread! YOU got suckered in by Smooth Kev, who cynically uses Bowman's sacrifice to attack Democrats.
Y'all got on your high horse and bitched and moaned about behavior and tactics without looking at the bigger picture or asking one dang question.
Some parties do strategy, and then there are the Democrats. And my god do y'all toss our own under the bus without asking one dang question. All assumptions..
Being a member of this party of naive, high-strung chihuahuas is effing exhausting.
demmiblue
(39,658 posts)yardwork
(69,293 posts)As a matter of fact, I can't remember feeling this annoyed with my fellow Democrats in a while.
Sucha NastyWoman
(3,019 posts)yardwork
(69,293 posts)Skittles
(171,457 posts)you do not falsely pull a fire alarm - END OF STORY
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)But does anybody CARE about how the panic buttons in Rep. Pressley's office was ripped out? NOPE. No one cares about that, and especially not the GQP, nor about if a Dem had been killed by one of tRump's angry mob on Jan. 6th. I'm not sure that panic button incident with Pressley will ever be investigted. A few months ago, a friend asked me why Dems like Schumer won't talk about the panic button situation? I told her that she'd have to ask Schumer about that
Panic Buttons Torn From Pressley's Congressional Office Ahead of Riot: Chief of Staff.
Panic buttons in the congressional office of Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., were removed, without explanation, some time before a pro-Trump mob stormed the Capitol last week, according to her chief of staff.
Sarah Groh told The Boston Globe that, during the Jan. 6 riot, she looked for the buttons in the office as she and her colleagues attempted to barricade themselves inside. Pressley's office confirmed Groh's account to NBC10 Boston.
Every panic button in my office had been torn out the whole unit, she told the paper. According to the Globe, Groh had not been been told why the buttons had been removed, though she had used them before.
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/politics/panic-buttons-removed-from-pressleys-congressional-office-ahead-of-riots-chief-of-staff/2279777/
Skittles
(171,457 posts)WE care, THEY do not
WE don't base our morals on what THEY do
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Good for you. Keep telling yourself that as the GQP US TALIBAN PUTIN-LOVING PARTY keeps on trying to destroy our democracy, and the 'nice' people right along with it. That's like saying "Gee, here I was trying to be 'nice' to that snake, and the darn snake bit me and I'm going to die. WHY did the snake do that? I was being 'nice' to it?" Bless your heart
Skittles
(171,457 posts)and pulling fire alarms falsely is just plain JUVENILE
*DONE HERE*
niyad
(132,020 posts)Smackdown2019
(1,354 posts)Besides, he was reading anything when he pulled it.
yardwork
(69,293 posts)Especially your last sentence.
FFS, have any of these scolds ever played a team sport? Our democracy is hanging by a thread. Let's pull together, people. Stop falling for every little Republican trick. Stop with the effing purism.
PurgedVoter
(2,711 posts)I don't want Republicans thinking this is okay.
It isn't as bad an offense as taking a gun past the security check. What happened to the people who brought a gun in?
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)GQP'ers almost never pay for their crimes.
hadEnuf
(3,601 posts)McCarthy? The jellyfish asshole who's allowing the GOP to disrupt the country?
Matt Gaetz? The scumbag who boinks underage girls and is under investigation?
Marjorie Taylor-Green? The vermin who gave tours to insurrectionists and was tweeting Pelosi's location in real time during the 1/6 coup?
No wonder somebody pulled the fire alarm on the sewer dwellers!
niyad
(132,020 posts)yankee87
(2,814 posts)Screw this BS of our party always plays by the rules. I say fight any charges and keep on pushing the date down the road.
hadEnuf
(3,601 posts)Pathological liar George Santos is still fine and hidden away by the GOP, yet we are supposed to hang Bowman?
Fuck That
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Remember how Al Franken was made to uh "leave," even though you have real life pedophiles, rapists former presidents, men who've dated underage teens still IN the government IN the GQP
That's not to say that Menendez shouldn't resign, allow the court case to 'play out,' then allow it to come to a resolution . I'm also of the mind that he shouldn't for office again while his case moves through court which will probably take a few years. But, he says that he's still running for his Senate seat. However the more that I think about it, I'm good with letting the process "play out" with Menendez. Hey, the GQP are letting the processes "play out" for them as they're still defending their foul, racist, putin-loving, thieving, treasonous, law-breaking, evil, fascist cult leader tRump whose continuing to play with people's lives, and who also wants the government shut down so people can be punished and suffer. I know several women who receive SNAP, and if their SNAP benefits are stopped because of a government shut down, they will have some hungry days in October. So will women with infants and children, and poor seniors. tRump's out here wilding out, lawless and continuing to threaten potential witnesses lives, continuing to try to taint the jury pool, and calling for Mark Milley to be assassinated, executed almost daily now on his platform. Jack Smith behind the scenes is "allegedly" PAST IRATE about tRump's escalation of death treats against people, and of tRump becoming more unhinged and murderous, like all dictators become over time. But as of now, he's continuing to get away with judicial threats, calls for execution and assassination of a wittiness against him, Mark Milley. I'm going to get more angry at Menendez than at tRump? NOPE
I can imagine Smith being PAST IRATE which is why he filed a motion against tRump, and is calling for a limited gag order against him. tRump has threatened Smith, his wife and daughter. WHY should I keep screaming about how guilty Menendez is, when tRump in REAL time is still continuing to want various people to be jailed and or EXECUTED and or ASSASSINATED (Milley)
Quite literally Mark Milley was the ONLY thing between our asses and the ground if he hadn't have stopped tRump when he did. We owe a great debt of gratitude to the Former 5-star, now retired Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley who in essence saved this country and what democracy we have remaining. And I'm going to keep screaming about Menendez? NOPE.
hadEnuf
(3,601 posts)Novara
(6,115 posts)Wow.
Lessee...... a stupid stunt versus a bloody coup attempt that trashed the building and left five people dead.
Yeah! It's the same thing!
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)of Rep. Pressley's office. Like he'd have said or given ONE damn about a black, progressive female Democrat if she had been attacked, possibly killed by one of tRump's thugs on Jan. 6th
Hell, even Dem leaders seemingly aren't saying much about that panic button incident that I know of. Hope I'm wrong. Is anyone investigating those ripped out of the wall panic buttons situation in Rep. Pressley's office? ANYBODY? Speaker McCarthy, what say you about the panic buttons situaiton in Rep. Pressley's oice on Jan. 6th? 😴😴
But then again, if something had happened to Rep. Pressley, on Jan 6th it would have just been something happening to a black, radical, racist, Marxist Dem Squad Member many GQP US Taliban Membebrs and that racist, radical GQP snake oil salesman Vivek Salami would probably say. I could see a GQP'er saying so fucking what about Pressley? Bowman got a hold o a fire alarm which could have harmed one of our members of congress. What do you mean Jan. 6th was bad? You Dems overselling sightseeing tours of guests again? It was NOTHING compared to what that Marxist Bowman did, and he needs to resign and be thrown in JAIL.
Jesus H. Christ
intheflow
(30,163 posts)1 person vs. 1000 people
Trying to leave a building vs. scaling the walls to break in
Oh, yeah, its like the two events were separated at birth.
electric_blue68
(26,804 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Almost that WHOLE party's gone overboard. Many of them are traitors and terrorists who are out LOUD rooting for putin and for russia, and are against Pres. Biden, Dems and against their OWN country.
I mean Lord Have Mercy
electric_blue68
(26,804 posts)electric_blue68
(26,804 posts)eye rolling over the statement "Kevin going overboard" as a statement in, and of itself VS the fact of Kevin inflating/conflating Bowman's action to J6.
I hope that makes sense! I was annoyed at Kevin's overblown reaction to Bowman in comparing it to J6.
niyad
(132,020 posts)RockRaven
(19,245 posts)Looking at the fire alarm, door, and signage in question it appears that Bowman was confused and flustered by a locked door (which he regularly uses in its unlocked state) whilst in a hurry and made a bad and illogical attempt to open said door. If so, it was a brain cramp of the highest order.
LenaBaby61
(6,991 posts)Because the US Capitol was being attacked by tRump thugs that day, and I can see somebody being scared out of their mind and damned confused with something like that going on..
But often times Dems are goaded into doing what the GQP want them to do, but that never works the other way around. Al Franken is gone, but you have a rapist president whose trying to destroy this country, continuing to destroy this country still going at it. You have pedophiles, women batterers, and other assorted perverts in the GQP US Taliban Putin-loving, tRump-protecting Party STILL safe in their districts, safe from prosecution and Dems seem to be quite comfortable to jump into the volcano because the GQP tells them that they should because they're bad people 😑 I will say that I am heartened to SEE some venom and truth coming from Dems during that sham of an investigation into impeaching Pres. Biden. I am SO impressed at how the Dems are throwing those damn made up lies right back into the treasonous faces of the GQP US Taliban let's impeach Pres. Biden for NOTHING Party. I knew a gal for 20 years, and considered her a good friend. Anyway, she was one of these folks who believed in the "Let them fly low, we fly high" Mantra, and she said I was being coarse and that she didn't want to be like me: always arguing about and mad at the Republican Party. I said you keep on flying high while struggling to pay for your insulin dear (at the time she had been paying HUNDREDS for insulin and she was borrowing from her relatives to buy insulin for God's sake). I don't have time for people like that. The GQP wants her to go broke paying for insulin which keeps her alive, and she called ME coarse and mean, because I know and can see that the GQP doesn't mean insulin users like her any good nor this country any good. I mean really. By the way, she's also on SNAP, and if the government is shut down and it goes PAST Oct., she may have issues with purchasing food.
LetMyPeopleVote
(179,186 posts)GoneOffShore
(18,018 posts)niyad
(132,020 posts)EX500rider
(12,529 posts)If the so the door excuse seems weak to me.
His statement makes it seem like he did:
"Today, as I was rushing to make a vote, I came to a door that is usually open for votes but today would not open. I am embarrassed to admit that I activated the fire alarm, mistakenly thinking it would open the door," Mr Bowman said in a statement.
yardwork
(69,293 posts)EX500rider
(12,529 posts)...it did anything else

Polybius
(21,859 posts)niyad
(132,020 posts)Stainless
(719 posts)I've read the entire thread and all the comments so far. The guy triggered an alarm when he forced open a door so he could go vote; a door that is usually open during the week, BTW. Duh! Get a clue dummies, there is no there, there!
I'm sure the MAGATS are reveling in this. Nyad seems to be the only one who gets it FFS.