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Eugene

(67,232 posts)
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 09:12 AM Oct 2023

Australians decide against creating an Indigenous Voice to advise Parliament on minority issues

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by JudyM (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: Associated Press

CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — Australians voted in a referendum Saturday against enshrining in the nation’s constitution a mechanism for Indigenous people to advise Parliament on policies that affect their lives.

Proponents said creating an Indigenous Voice via the constitution would recognize the special place that Indigenous people have in Australian history while giving them input in government policies.

Opponents argued it would divide Australians along racial lines without reducing Indigenous disadvantages.

Bipartisan support regarded as essential in Australia for successfully changing the constitution never emerged, and Indigenous leaders were divided on the idea.

-snip-

BY ROD MCGUIRK
Updated 6:47 AM EDT, October 14, 2023


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/australia-indigenous-voice-referendum-6e9a9a7916a6024479d9e985f28e2d5e

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Australians decide against creating an Indigenous Voice to advise Parliament on minority issues (Original Post) Eugene Oct 2023 OP
That sucks. MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #1
Nothing like "voting" for or against other's rights ... LOL, bunch of fooking clowns NotHardly Oct 2023 #12
As per one of the links, the vote was 59/41, so not even close. :-( TheRickles Oct 2023 #2
Massive disinformation from the Right speak easy Oct 2023 #3
Sad result for such an innocent minor attempt to help the indigenous. It was only an advisory board Wonder Why Oct 2023 #4
Manifest destiny. Marcuse Oct 2023 #5
Shameful, degrading racism. Horrifying step backwards into an evil past. Judi Lynn Oct 2023 #6
+++++++++!!! 2naSalit Oct 2023 #13
The whole world is moving Bettie Oct 2023 #7
Between this and climate change, I don't have much hope ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2023 #8
Am with you PlutosHeart Oct 2023 #9
Sounds like what they are trying to do to minority history in republican strongholds. Jay25 Oct 2023 #10
American aboriginals were slaughtered and supplanted by "Righteous Christians" from England Fresh Water Falling Oct 2023 #11
Well 3auld6phart Oct 2023 #16
I'm disappointed. Aussie105 Oct 2023 #14
Yep. Me too. canetoad Oct 2023 #15
Locking after forum hosts' review JudyM Oct 2023 #17
 

MOMFUDSKI

(7,080 posts)
1. That sucks.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 09:25 AM
Oct 2023

We steal your land and you have no say . . .

 

NotHardly

(2,705 posts)
12. Nothing like "voting" for or against other's rights ... LOL, bunch of fooking clowns
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 03:30 PM
Oct 2023

TheRickles

(3,483 posts)
2. As per one of the links, the vote was 59/41, so not even close. :-(
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 09:28 AM
Oct 2023

speak easy

(12,598 posts)
3. Massive disinformation from the Right
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 09:38 AM
Oct 2023

like, indigenous activists are coming for you suburban house, not repudiated by conservative leaders.

Wonder Why

(7,210 posts)
4. Sad result for such an innocent minor attempt to help the indigenous. It was only an advisory board
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 09:54 AM
Oct 2023

Marcuse

(9,070 posts)
5. Manifest destiny.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:31 AM
Oct 2023

Judi Lynn

(164,161 posts)
6. Shameful, degrading racism. Horrifying step backwards into an evil past.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:38 AM
Oct 2023

2naSalit

(103,790 posts)
13. +++++++++!!!
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 03:54 PM
Oct 2023

Bettie

(19,815 posts)
7. The whole world is moving
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:39 AM
Oct 2023

backward.

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,213 posts)
8. Between this and climate change, I don't have much hope
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:22 PM
Oct 2023

We could all stop polluting today and the climate won't get back to how it is now for a century. How will a fascist planet deal with it?

PlutosHeart

(1,445 posts)
9. Am with you
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 12:47 PM
Oct 2023

sadly. Breaks my heart.

Jay25

(437 posts)
10. Sounds like what they are trying to do to minority history in republican strongholds.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 01:38 PM
Oct 2023
 
11. American aboriginals were slaughtered and supplanted by "Righteous Christians" from England
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 02:00 PM
Oct 2023

Their Australian counterparts were killed and replaced by convicted criminals!

WTAF?

3auld6phart

(1,683 posts)
16. Well
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 09:10 PM
Oct 2023

Last edited Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:05 PM - Edit history (1)

that lot were the fuckin’ Puritan round heads Cromwells stooges. Mayflower clowns kicked out by King Charles the first. The maggots are still dissatisfied disrupting .
Charles 1st lost his head. Charles did his best to rid England of t hePuitans.they ended up raising shit in the new world. And gawdammitit they are still at it. Never happy

Aussie105

(8,123 posts)
14. I'm disappointed.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 06:10 PM
Oct 2023

Wife and I voted 'YES' and thought the outcome would pretty much be a no brainer.

Couple possible reasons:

1. Fear campaign by the NO people - basically saying . . . you don't really know what this implies, so don't risk it.

2. The YES side didn't outline real/potential positive outcomes.

3. Australia has a Constitution? Really? How does it start?

'We the people . . .' Ummm, no, that isn't it!

Oh yeah . . . 'WHEREAS the people . . . ', but as an Australian, I'm embarrassed to have to admit I had to Google that.

Seriously though, it would made little difference to the average (white) Australian either way, so why not vote YES?
Well, see 1 above.


canetoad

(20,931 posts)
15. Yep. Me too.
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 06:29 PM
Oct 2023

I was honestly baffled by the opposition to the Voice by some indigenous leaders. Apparently the cities were mainly Yes but it was lost in regional votes.

JudyM

(29,785 posts)
17. Locking after forum hosts' review
Sat Oct 14, 2023, 10:48 PM
Oct 2023

Interesting but not important news of national interest as required by LBN’s SOP. Okay to repost it in GD.

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