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usregimechange

(18,592 posts)
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:15 PM Oct 2023

Trump Wastes No Time Attacking Judge Who Slapped Him With Gag Order

Source: Rolling Stone

Former president Donald Trump lashed out against U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan hours after being issued a gag order in the federal 2020 election interference trial.

During a campaign event in Adel, Iowa, on Monday, the former president aired his grievances to the crowd of his supporters, claiming that it was “totally unconstitutional what she did.”

“A judge doesn’t like me too much. Her whole life is not liking me,” Trump claimed, before continuing, “You know what a gag order is? ‘You can’t speak badly about your opponent.’ This is weaponry all being done because Joe Biden is losing the election and losing very, very badly to all of us.”

Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-attacks-judge-tanya-chutkan-gag-order-1234855458/amp/



What does a guy have to do to get locked up these days?
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Trump Wastes No Time Attacking Judge Who Slapped Him With Gag Order (Original Post) usregimechange Oct 2023 OP
He reads and sounds like a man with a seriously distorted view of everything bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #1
Indeed! constantly engaged is self cherishing vlyons Oct 2023 #7
His recent confusion seems much worse than normal, but since this man has never been normal, Lonestarblue Oct 2023 #2
"His recent confusion seems much worse than normal." LenaBaby61 Oct 2023 #9
He's not confused at all ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #12
Pray to God & Baby Jesus your wish to become reality. A MASSIVE fucking stroke for that big dirt nap SoFlaBro Oct 2023 #15
Stroke out already, you F'n, murdering, orange, RAPIST, TRAITOR**. niyad Oct 2023 #3
Ditto!!!!!!!!!!! BigmanPigman Oct 2023 #32
YES!! SunSeeker Oct 2023 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Oct 2023 #54
Lock him up. ificandream Oct 2023 #4
The inner child is in control. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #5
Personality preferred a satellite controlled shock collar ! bobby202 Oct 2023 #21
Should of happened sooner. republianmushroom Oct 2023 #6
bunch of bullcrap Yonnie3 Oct 2023 #8
Oh, he knows he's lying. ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #11
NEVER BEEN ACCOUNTABLE for anything. Are we as a nation strong enough to LOCK HIM UP?? Evolve Dammit Oct 2023 #10
We can make this very easy, Citizen Chump ... FakeNoose Oct 2023 #13
Now we're talkin! Blue Owl Oct 2023 #14
Now beat him with a rolled up Forbes! ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2023 #29
Orange Bastard fucking looks like a humped up lump of fetid dog shit. He can gag on a piss rag. SoFlaBro Oct 2023 #16
WTF? Chi67 Oct 2023 #17
I wish someone would stuff a fifty dirty sock in his mouth vapor2 Oct 2023 #18
I wish someone on his golf course would take Captain Zero Oct 2023 #23
Exactly birdographer Oct 2023 #41
He continues to flout court orders, and his marks will keep paying his court costs. Beartracks Oct 2023 #19
keep it up... bee_peaceful Oct 2023 #20
Interesting ejbr Oct 2023 #24
I love it orangecrush Oct 2023 #34
Meaning - this is for little people. I'm Donald Trump and I can do anything. Respect my authority. AZLD4Candidate Oct 2023 #22
good thing i didnt have drink in my mouth. AllaN01Bear Oct 2023 #25
I'm just a lay person, but I don't read tfg's statement as violating iluvtennis Oct 2023 #26
My guess SpamWyzer Oct 2023 #27
any normal person wouldn't fucking say ANYTHING about the judge Skittles Oct 2023 #30
He has the right Mz Pip Oct 2023 #49
Remain silent....hahaha. n/t iluvtennis Oct 2023 #50
It's an attempt moniss Oct 2023 #35
Very astute observations intrepidity Oct 2023 #53
He was ordered... Grins Oct 2023 #44
Until the text of the order is released, it's not clear if this is a violation or not. onenote Oct 2023 #28
This is true Novara Oct 2023 #47
He is sounding more and more ill BaronChocula Oct 2023 #31
SANCTIONS!!!!! Cha Oct 2023 #36
She doesn't like me. She really doesn't like me! Martin Eden Oct 2023 #37
What does a guy have to do to get locked up these days? joshdawg Oct 2023 #38
He is bdamomma Oct 2023 #39
'You can't speak badly about your opponent.' pecosbob Oct 2023 #40
POS will never shut up dalton99a Oct 2023 #42
"Random Capital Letters make me look SO SMART." tanyev Oct 2023 #43
He will be at a deposition, not a trial. Grins Oct 2023 #45
"I can't have a JURY and...tried under a Statute that has never been used before." Grins Oct 2023 #46
+1. His cult doesn't care about details dalton99a Oct 2023 #48
His sanction will be another warning. Kablooie Oct 2023 #51
My thoughts exactly!!! nt pazzyanne Oct 2023 #52
That fat fuck piece of shit can drop dead Blue Owl Oct 2023 #55

Lonestarblue

(13,189 posts)
2. His recent confusion seems much worse than normal, but since this man has never been normal,
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:23 PM
Oct 2023

who knows what his real condition is! Now would be a good time for a massive stroke!

LenaBaby61

(6,991 posts)
9. "His recent confusion seems much worse than normal."
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:54 PM
Oct 2023

It is much worse than 5-7 years ago. Look at him talking from 5-7 years ago. Yes, Pres. Biden has lost a few steps from 5-7 years ago, but the man is still mentally cognitive, unlike 91 indictments traitor tRump.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
12. He's not confused at all
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:58 PM
Oct 2023

He's merely so enraged at getting so much opposition from so many directions, especially from *those* people, that he's throwing anything he can at the wall to see if any of it sticks for getting them off his back.

SoFlaBro

(3,730 posts)
15. Pray to God & Baby Jesus your wish to become reality. A MASSIVE fucking stroke for that big dirt nap
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:47 PM
Oct 2023

df

Response to niyad (Reply #3)

OAITW r.2.0

(31,305 posts)
5. The inner child is in control.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:27 PM
Oct 2023

Child must be punished. Take his posting privileges away....and if that fails, put an ankle bracelet on him and confine him to MAL. The SS can keep him from posting his inflammatory rhetoric.

 

bobby202

(91 posts)
21. Personality preferred a satellite controlled shock collar !
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:27 PM
Oct 2023

Specially when he's sitting on the crapper texting ?

Yonnie3

(19,175 posts)
8. bunch of bullcrap
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:48 PM
Oct 2023

He IS still allowed to speak badly of his opponents.

Perhaps he views the trial's witnesses, judges and prosecution as opposition. Who knows? His egocentric view of the world is rather distorted. I don't think he knows when he is lying.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
11. Oh, he knows he's lying.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 07:56 PM
Oct 2023

He doesn't *care* what's true or not, as long as he gets what he wants out of saying it.

SoFlaBro

(3,730 posts)
16. Orange Bastard fucking looks like a humped up lump of fetid dog shit. He can gag on a piss rag.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 08:48 PM
Oct 2023

n/t

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
41. Exactly
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 08:34 AM
Oct 2023

That photographer would know exactly where he is and where he is going to be next. Very easy to set up. Unfortunately all the photographers seem to be on his side...

Beartracks

(14,299 posts)
19. He continues to flout court orders, and his marks will keep paying his court costs.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:10 PM
Oct 2023

The gag order is not having the intended effect as long as he roams free speaking into microphones.

ejbr

(5,885 posts)
24. Interesting
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:37 PM
Oct 2023

It seems a bit mean, but then I remember it's Trump, so I don't care. More power to them. lol

AZLD4Candidate

(6,725 posts)
22. Meaning - this is for little people. I'm Donald Trump and I can do anything. Respect my authority.
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:27 PM
Oct 2023

iluvtennis

(21,444 posts)
26. I'm just a lay person, but I don't read tfg's statement as violating
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 09:48 PM
Oct 2023

the gag order. tfg said “A judge doesn’t like me too much. Her whole life is not liking me”

I don’t read “doesn’t like me” as an attack on Judge Chutkan. An attack would be one of his racist name calling or derogatory remarks.

 

SpamWyzer

(385 posts)
27. My guess
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 10:17 PM
Oct 2023

is he will push against the order but skirt any real insults, threats and slander. He is looking for a way to get the SCOTUS to be involved. A 1st Amendment case would be ideal for "the candidate"...The judge is not dumb.

Skittles

(169,196 posts)
30. any normal person wouldn't fucking say ANYTHING about the judge
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 11:00 PM
Oct 2023

But.....Trump is an elitist, arrogant piece of SHIT.

Mz Pip

(28,333 posts)
49. He has the right
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 10:14 AM
Oct 2023

to remain silent. Fat chance he’ll exercise that right.

I am continually baffled by his level of support. Who knew playing victim 24/7 could be so rewarding.

moniss

(8,600 posts)
35. It's an attempt
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 03:06 AM
Oct 2023

Last edited Tue Oct 17, 2023, 03:38 PM - Edit history (1)

to influence the attitude of potential jurors. There is a whole series of steps that are undertaken as preparatory these days in "communications/public relations" aka propaganda as conditioning a person to more readily accept a particular influence/statement etc. and to more readily adopt the desired thought the propagandist/manipulator wants the person to take on. Taken separately the "messages" may not seem to necessarily be related but psychologists now have this down to a very well worked field of "consulting" in politics, elections and jury manipulation.

Sometimes the sequencing is very obvious, especially if one is looking for it, as the escalation of messaging surrounding the 2020 election began with general statements about how efforts might be made to manipulate results and then that was hammered for several months raising the specter in the minds of the gullible. Then the message became that crooked things had been done and the gullible were indoctrinated deeper into the message. Then it became the courts were denying the cases because the courts were crooked. This of course all heightened anger in the gullible because they had been told cheating might happen, then when their man lost they were told it did happen but the campaign/lawyers/bedding fanatics would go to court and "prove" it happened. Then the courts threw out the nonsense cases and the gullible were even further enraged because now they were told the legal avenues had been taken away from them. So the final message of come to DC and raise hell and "march down there and fight like hell or you won't have a country" was easy for the gullible to swallow since the conditioning had been planned all along and carried out all along.

I'm defining the gullible as the average idiot in a MAGA hat who listens to hate radio all day. The ones like the Proud Boys and Oaf Creepers are a different sort and they are acting for their own purposes, like grifting etc., and may also already have deeply racist/authoritarian beliefs that don't require much conditioning to get them to accept messaging to turn to violence.

What "He Of Incredibly Small Hands" is doing/has been doing is conditioning potential jurors and you can bet that the lawyers will have consultants telling them who to get on the jury and who to try and strike. The statement about how her "whole life" has been not "liking him" is blatant conditioning to get a juror to take a negative view/predisposed view of any rulings or actions by the judge at trial. He will also scream about any rulings or actions before trial for the same reasons. Affect the views of potential jurors.

intrepidity

(8,549 posts)
53. Very astute observations
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:54 PM
Oct 2023

Agree completely. This explains his relentless, repetitive spewing of garbage. There is a purpose.

Grins

(9,209 posts)
44. He was ordered...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:05 AM
Oct 2023

...to stop making public statements attacking prosecutors, witnesses, court staff, and the Judge curb his use of public events to comment on the trial. He attacked the jusdge. He attacked the court.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
47. This is true
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:21 AM
Oct 2023

The details will be in the written order. This may or may not violate it.

BaronChocula

(3,957 posts)
31. He is sounding more and more ill
Mon Oct 16, 2023, 11:07 PM
Oct 2023

And even more ill than he sounded in 2016 or even 2020. This is cognitive degeneration before our very eyes. He needs help.

Martin Eden

(15,305 posts)
37. She doesn't like me. She really doesn't like me!
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 05:19 AM
Oct 2023

Waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah!!!

It's all because Joe Biden!!!

They're all out to get me, which means they're out to get you!!!


Infantile mental case
Malignant narcissist
Patholigical liar

This sociapth never matured past the stage where he'd destroy the world if someone took his binky or punished him for stealing someone else's.

We could ignore him if not for the very real danger of him regaining real power on the world stage with the capability to destroy it.

It continues to blow my mind that mature adults can listen to this creature speak for more than a few minutes and want to elect him for anything other than the psyche ward in a prison.

joshdawg

(2,919 posts)
38. What does a guy have to do to get locked up these days?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 06:13 AM
Oct 2023

I've been asking that question for years and still no logical answer.
JMHO, the orange baboon should have been locked up two years ago for treason.

bdamomma

(69,130 posts)
39. He is
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 06:24 AM
Oct 2023

one sick ass. Lock him up. The lies are just too much. I wish we could lock up him, Netanyahu and Putin for starters.

pecosbob

(8,296 posts)
40. 'You can't speak badly about your opponent.'
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 06:47 AM
Oct 2023

Newsflash Mr. Bonespur...the judge is not your opponent. The United States is your opponent. The action against you reads "The United States vs. Donald Dumb-ass." Your a rich, entitled, priveleged c*** that never had to learn the lesson that there's a time to lay down and lick your nuts, as they say.

Grins

(9,209 posts)
45. He will be at a deposition, not a trial.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:09 AM
Oct 2023

Jesus, he can't even get that right.

He will be in Court later this week on fraud charges, but that is not why he is in court today.

Care to guess home many times he will take "the Fifth?"

Grins

(9,209 posts)
46. "I can't have a JURY and...tried under a Statute that has never been used before."
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:16 AM
Oct 2023
"I can't have a JURY..."

YOUR OWN LAWYERS turned a jury trial down. ("All the best people" seems to fit here.)

"...tried under a Statute that has never been used before."

Actually, it has! LOADS of cases. You'd think all those "legal professors and scholars" saying you "DID NOTHING WRONG" would have told you. Or, did they? And you, again, refused to listen?
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