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riversedge

(70,954 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:10 AM Oct 2023

Trump fraud trial live updates: Trump, returning to courtroom, says 'there's no fraud'

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by JudyM (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: abc




The former president is facing allegations of defrauding lenders.

By Peter Charalambous and Aaron Katersky

Last Updated: October 17, 2023, 10:15 AM ET


Former President Donald Trump is on trial in New York in a $250 million lawsuit that could alter the personal fortune and real estate empire that helped propel Trump to the White House.

Trump, his sons Eric and Don Jr., and Trump Organization executives are accused by New York Attorney General Letitia James of engaging in a decade-long scheme in which they used "numerous acts of fraud and misrepresentation" to inflate Trump's net worth in order get more favorable loan terms. The former president has denied all wrongdoing and his attorneys have argued that Trump's alleged inflated valuations were a product of his business skill........................

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/trump-fraud-trial/?id=103642561




Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
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37m
Trump, back at court in NYC this morning, viciously attacks AG James, who he describes at "ranting and raving like a lunatic." He also claims Mar-a-Lago is "the most expensive house, probably, in the world" and adds that it's worth as much as $1.5 billion.




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Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
images of Trump and AG James in court this morning






Look at him. He is a wreck.
Beth in Wisconsin
@mynameisBethS
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33m
Does he raise more money if he glowers 100% of the time?
Bluedog
@HereLiesBlueDog
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31m
His misery brings me such great joy. 😂🤣
DeSanctimonious Jenkins
@EddieHustle7
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30m
Is that a dying ferret on his head? Someone check on that thing.
guitr25
@guitr25
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22m
Over/under bets on his BP reading? Looking like 190/85 at least ....
Paige #🟦🟧Ex GOP 🌻
@ItWasACoup
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30m
He looks so happy 😂🤣
SMConner2 on Threads
@Sheila612647780
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21m
I love her!
Lisa Lees
@LLees
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29m
I can't stop laughing.
Philly 🇺🇸🌻
@Jadair







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Trump fraud trial live updates: Trump, returning to courtroom, says 'there's no fraud' (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2023 OP
Images of Trump and AG James in court this morning LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #1
There's only one ranting, raving lunatic in that courtroom FakeNoose Oct 2023 #2
By Jove! I believe you're right! electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #20
Flinging poop and playing accordion at the same time! dchill Oct 2023 #3
And of course FOX likes to imply that he's a clever user of courts and law in his bid for a ancianita Oct 2023 #4
Facts vs Bullshit - the story of Slobby's life. NoMoreRepugs Oct 2023 #5
lol AllaN01Bear Oct 2023 #6
"the most expensive house, probably, in the world" ... legal scholars help me out jcgoldie Oct 2023 #7
Not so much the real estate as what's hidden there LeeM Oct 2023 #10
Baaaaahahahhaaaaaaa. Riiiiight. Pffffft electric_blue68 Oct 2023 #21
pay taxes on it donnie onethatcares Oct 2023 #8
'Notice the tinge of bronzer on the fingertip. What a strong, virile male specimenl' riversedge Oct 2023 #9
Human beings do not come in that color. 3catwoman3 Oct 2023 #13
Doritos or Cheetos dust? Ray Bruns Oct 2023 #15
looks more like Doritos dust today! riversedge Oct 2023 #24
He looks like his liver is failing. nt leftyladyfrommo Oct 2023 #18
A total phoney bluestarone Oct 2023 #19
As ridiculous as he looks with his clown makeup on, it beats the alternative JoseBalow Oct 2023 #34
There is an article in Travel and Leisure tht lists... 3catwoman3 Oct 2023 #11
tfg says "there's no fraud" - I call BS. Judge Engoron already found trump org guilty of fraud. iluvtennis Oct 2023 #12
Does Trump the Appraiser do home valuations? bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #14
Is he there before or after his sworn deposition in the Peter Strzok/Lisa Paige lawsuit? ancianita Oct 2023 #16
Hope the county never finds out my little house is really worth $20,000,000 KS Toronado Oct 2023 #17
This isn't SNL is it? twodogsbarking Oct 2023 #22
He thinks that snarl is intimidating. I'd like to know how shifty his piggy eyes are Warpy Oct 2023 #23
If any of these "spaghetti at the wall" arguments work SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #25
He has that "extra septic tank" hue this morning. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2023 #26
What musclecar6 Oct 2023 #27
The valuation is a matter of tax record... EarthFirst Oct 2023 #28
I don't watch stuff go down the garbage disposer when I use it, and I'm not going to start SWBTATTReg Oct 2023 #29
if he's under oath, he should be charged. samsingh Oct 2023 #30
It would be so great if Stormy came to court to sit in the moniss Oct 2023 #31
So, he already broke Erdogan's gag order by verbally attacking AG James. 4lbs Oct 2023 #32
Michael Cohen was so right johnnyfins Oct 2023 #33
Locking after forum hosts' review JudyM Oct 2023 #35

LetMyPeopleVote

(147,275 posts)
1. Images of Trump and AG James in court this morning
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:16 AM
Oct 2023

FakeNoose

(33,418 posts)
2. There's only one ranting, raving lunatic in that courtroom
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:17 AM
Oct 2023

... and we know it's not Letitia James.

electric_blue68

(15,377 posts)
20. By Jove! I believe you're right!
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:42 PM
Oct 2023

😄👍


(he's sooooooo awful! 😑😬🤬 )

dchill

(38,731 posts)
3. Flinging poop and playing accordion at the same time!
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:20 AM
Oct 2023

Ladies and gentlemen - I give you Donald Trump, the next president of the Untied State of his Mind.

ancianita

(36,511 posts)
4. And of course FOX likes to imply that he's a clever user of courts and law in his bid for a
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:24 AM
Oct 2023

2nd criminal term. How mafia media love their criminal bosses in and out of office.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,665 posts)
5. Facts vs Bullshit - the story of Slobby's life.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:33 AM
Oct 2023

AllaN01Bear

(19,878 posts)
6. lol
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:34 AM
Oct 2023

no fraud he says . hem

jcgoldie

(11,687 posts)
7. "the most expensive house, probably, in the world" ... legal scholars help me out
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:34 AM
Oct 2023

Is ridiculous hyperbole generally a good legal strategy when you are on trial for fraudulently overvaluing your assets?

LeeM

(31 posts)
10. Not so much the real estate as what's hidden there
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:52 AM
Oct 2023

National secrets are worth a lot of money to some....

electric_blue68

(15,377 posts)
21. Baaaaahahahhaaaaaaa. Riiiiight. Pffffft
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:43 PM
Oct 2023

onethatcares

(16,305 posts)
8. pay taxes on it donnie
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:42 AM
Oct 2023

full amount due for the years you've lived there. That'll show us you mean business.

riversedge

(70,954 posts)
9. 'Notice the tinge of bronzer on the fingertip. What a strong, virile male specimenl'
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:49 AM
Oct 2023

Actually, trump's makeup seems to have added some brown--its a brownish-orange mix.





Exact same lighting conditions, same photo, two entirely different color schemes. Notice the tinge of bronzer on the fingertip. What a strong, virile male specimenl


?s=20




?s=20

3catwoman3

(24,330 posts)
13. Human beings do not come in that color.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:56 AM
Oct 2023

Is he painting himself with iodine?

Ray Bruns

(4,193 posts)
15. Doritos or Cheetos dust?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:08 PM
Oct 2023

riversedge

(70,954 posts)
24. looks more like Doritos dust today!
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:16 PM
Oct 2023

leftyladyfrommo

(18,907 posts)
18. He looks like his liver is failing. nt
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:22 PM
Oct 2023

bluestarone

(17,360 posts)
19. A total phoney
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:26 PM
Oct 2023

Not one drop of his blood is honest.

JoseBalow

(3,089 posts)
34. As ridiculous as he looks with his clown makeup on, it beats the alternative
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 02:13 PM
Oct 2023

3catwoman3

(24,330 posts)
11. There is an article in Travel and Leisure tht lists...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:54 AM
Oct 2023

…the 10 most expensive homes in the world. Mar-A-Lago is not on the list. No is it on a list of the 15 most expensive, not the 25 most expensive.

Donnie’s lips are moving so he’s lying.

iluvtennis

(20,033 posts)
12. tfg says "there's no fraud" - I call BS. Judge Engoron already found trump org guilty of fraud.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:55 AM
Oct 2023
https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-letitia-james-fraud-lawsuit-1569245a9284427117b8d3ba5da74249

September 26, 2023

NEW YORK (AP) — A judge ruled Tuesday that Donald Trump committed fraud for years while building the real estate empire that catapulted him to fame and the White House, and he ordered some of the former president’s companies removed from his control and dissolved.

Judge Arthur Engoron, ruling in a civil lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James, found that Trump and his company deceived banks, insurers and others by massively overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing loans.

Engoron ordered that some of Trump’s business licenses be rescinded as punishment, making it difficult or impossible for them to do business in New York, and said he would continue to have an independent monitor oversee Trump Organization operations.


short article, ni more at link

bucolic_frolic

(44,025 posts)
14. Does Trump the Appraiser do home valuations?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:00 PM
Oct 2023

We can all play that game if we get his imprimatur, right?

ancianita

(36,511 posts)
16. Is he there before or after his sworn deposition in the Peter Strzok/Lisa Paige lawsuit?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:09 PM
Oct 2023

Dude's got a full court dance card.

KS Toronado

(17,843 posts)
17. Hope the county never finds out my little house is really worth $20,000,000
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:14 PM
Oct 2023

I couldn't afford property taxes on it, you know TIMES 100.

twodogsbarking

(10,315 posts)
22. This isn't SNL is it?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 12:47 PM
Oct 2023

Warpy

(111,789 posts)
23. He thinks that snarl is intimidating. I'd like to know how shifty his piggy eyes are
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:02 PM
Oct 2023

He doesn't think it was fraud because the bank loans got paid back.

He just doesn't understand what would happen to the system if everybody was as "smart" as he has been.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,618 posts)
25. If any of these "spaghetti at the wall" arguments work
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:22 PM
Oct 2023

We might as well just hand all of wall street over to the crooks. It should not have taken this long to hold this dumb crook accountable for all his shady practices.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,169 posts)
26. He has that "extra septic tank" hue this morning.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:22 PM
Oct 2023

His diaper must be full.

musclecar6

(1,707 posts)
27. What
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:24 PM
Oct 2023



A laughing stock fool. From the ridiculous iodine colored face paint to his ceaseless crazy statements, he never stops, falling all over himself, showing what a clown he is. Yes, the MAGA morons fall on his every word as the rest of us never stop laughing our ass off at him.

He is such an uncool person. Just ask Candee Bergen what she thought of him after about one half of a date. She basically said she would never go out with this jerk off again.

EarthFirst

(2,917 posts)
28. The valuation is a matter of tax record...
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:30 PM
Oct 2023

…and simple to demonstrate.

Just sayin’

SWBTATTReg

(22,533 posts)
29. I don't watch stuff go down the garbage disposer when I use it, and I'm not going to start
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:35 PM
Oct 2023

here by watching the crap that donnie the worthless pulls. If anything, I'll watch when he actually circles the drain finally, and goes away finally (it's kind of ackward what I just said, but you get the drift).

samsingh

(17,624 posts)
30. if he's under oath, he should be charged.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:43 PM
Oct 2023

moniss

(4,274 posts)
31. It would be so great if Stormy came to court to sit in the
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 01:51 PM
Oct 2023

gallery.

4lbs

(6,961 posts)
32. So, he already broke Erdogan's gag order by verbally attacking AG James.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 02:01 PM
Oct 2023

What will happen now?

How long before he violates Judge Chutkan's gag order that was asked for by Jack Smith?


Considering it is another powerful black woman, I would wager he might not go the day.

johnnyfins

(893 posts)
33. Michael Cohen was so right
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 02:03 PM
Oct 2023

Hit this clown in his wallet and he will start losing his mind. tRumpy is a scared little man at this point.

JudyM

(29,402 posts)
35. Locking after forum hosts' review
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 02:26 PM
Oct 2023

Live updates pages have changing titles/stories so they should be posted in General Discussion since they violate LBN’s SOP once they change, as happened here.

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