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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 08:42 PM Oct 2023

X, formerly known as Twitter, will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features

Source: Fortune

X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features including the ability to tweet, reply, quote, repost, like, bookmark, and create list, according to a source familiar with the matter

X owner Elon Musk has long floated the idea of charging users $1 for the platform. During a recent livestreamed conversation with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu last month, Musk said “It’s the only way I can think of to combat vast armies of bots.”

The company also published “Not-a-Bot Terms and Conditions” today outlining its plan for a paid subscription service that gives users certain abilities on their platform, like posting content and interacting with other users. This program is different from X Premium, which offers more features like “Undo” and “Edit” for posts for $8 a month.

Read more: https://fortune.com/2023/10/17/twitter-x-charging-new-users-1-dollar-year-to-tweet/amp/



Clearly an effort by Musk to “prove” people wrong and to go there rather than a serious effort to raise money.
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X, formerly known as Twitter, will begin charging new users $1 a year to access key features (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2023 OP
What? Musk won't charge us just to read? no_hypocrisy Oct 2023 #1
one dollar isn't going to stop bots or misinformation. How many users does twitter have? JohnSJ Oct 2023 #2
But a lot of bots are for numbers. I dont think they'll pay 1000s oldsoftie Oct 2023 #10
It depends on what the goal is for those that run them. cstanleytech Oct 2023 #38
Slippery slope intrepidity Oct 2023 #3
Not only that, but for the low price of $1 sybylla Oct 2023 #32
That's it. I'm done with it. I will not give one nickel to that Rat. bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #4
I don't remember when the internet was "free" brooklynite Oct 2023 #7
Actually there were times in the early days when venture capital startups paid users bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #14
It says "new users" so it shouldn't affect you if you already have an account. highplainsdem Oct 2023 #15
I remember when you could look up a phone number for free and get an answer. airplaneman Oct 2023 #20
....... marmar Oct 2023 #5
maybe DU should charge X a dallar each time an X is posted here nt msongs Oct 2023 #6
Good idea! ananda Oct 2023 #8
You can pay with Apple Pay without giving X your info womanofthehills Oct 2023 #48
Xitter sux already, this will just make it suk more SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #9
Without Twitter and TicToc womanofthehills Oct 2023 #49
Except you have no idea who is taking the film and when it was taken SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #51
Almost everyone has a cell phone now - most often you get multiple videos from multiple people womanofthehills Oct 2023 #56
Seems like a good way to get peoples' account info Marthe48 Oct 2023 #11
Yes. I just read there and copy some more interesting tweets here. highplainsdem Oct 2023 #12
Yeah you might as well have a sign on your back that says "hack me". Initech Oct 2023 #17
especially since x is a right wing hive DonCoquixote Oct 2023 #31
No problem- just use Apple pay womanofthehills Oct 2023 #50
Actually, a lot of us don't have iPhones. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #54
I'd never give X my credit card info or my ID FakeNoose Oct 2023 #13
It says "new users." Nothing about this applying to existing users. highplainsdem Oct 2023 #16
I'm not an existing user of X FakeNoose Oct 2023 #21
That is where services like privacy(.)com come in XorXor Oct 2023 #25
You want to ban a sight that is one of the largest sources of news in the world? womanofthehills Oct 2023 #55
I'm not sure how you got that idea FakeNoose Oct 2023 #58
You wrote: "I really hope X-linked posts are banned by DU very soon" brooklynite Oct 2023 #60
I like to approach and would gladly pay the fee BadGimp Oct 2023 #18
Used to be. Now it is all fucking liquid shit on the floor and a piss-soaked user experience. SoFlaBro Oct 2023 #22
Obviously you don't know how to use it womanofthehills Oct 2023 #36
Then it is great because I do know how to use it. The first 20 replies on anybody I fucking follow is Nazis and shit. I hate that goddamn shit. SoFlaBro Oct 2023 #46
Sorry Elon. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2023 #19
If he does charge the regulars PlutosHeart Oct 2023 #23
Giving the benefit of the doubt that it's not just a money grab XorXor Oct 2023 #24
Musk still thinks he has monopoly power with his Xitty service. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2023 #26
That's called a camel sticking his nose under the tent Bucky Oct 2023 #27
i dont want that nutter to have any of my financial info! samnsara Oct 2023 #28
Even Bill Gates had floated fee ideas to thwart spam on platforms IronLionZion Oct 2023 #29
This won't stop bots SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #42
It can reduce it IronLionZion Oct 2023 #43
everyone should just send him 4 quarters in the mail samnsara Oct 2023 #30
Real Headline: "Richest man in the world wants you to send him a dollar". n/t Yavin4 Oct 2023 #33
Do they take crypto? Kennah Oct 2023 #34
I laughed when I saw this earlier today. Yep. Good luck with that Elon! PatrickforB Oct 2023 #35
If you click on an X link it takes you to a twitter.com URL. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2023 #37
Such an easy way to save a dollar! Every year too! Aussie105 Oct 2023 #39
Would that come under "nuisance" tax? marble falls Oct 2023 #40
do i trust him with my credit card info? dembotoz Oct 2023 #41
He will probably make your info available to our domestic terrorists SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #44
Once they get their fingers into your credit card... keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #45
He won't stop there. ificandream Oct 2023 #47
Well... Mike Nelson Oct 2023 #52
Sorry, I don't have a dollar. Maraya1969 Oct 2023 #53
Does he promise it will only be $1 a year? He won't change it to $1 per day? LiberalFighter Oct 2023 #57
Musk has ruined Twitter Skwishy Oct 2023 #59
 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
2. one dollar isn't going to stop bots or misinformation. How many users does twitter have?
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 08:46 PM
Oct 2023
 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
10. But a lot of bots are for numbers. I dont think they'll pay 1000s
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:06 PM
Oct 2023

It'll be interesting to see what goes away

intrepidity

(8,582 posts)
3. Slippery slope
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 08:47 PM
Oct 2023

He just wants to jump the main hurdle of getting people to submit payment info.

Then the fees increase...

sybylla

(8,655 posts)
32. Not only that, but for the low price of $1
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 09:57 AM
Oct 2023

you get to give him all your personal information and a credit card number.

Everyone knows he's not going to protect that.

But when people abandon the site wholesale, he's going to claim they were all bots and declare victory. "See, we didn't need to employ all those people to make sure the Russoganda got deleted." And it will still be there.

bucolic_frolic

(55,142 posts)
4. That's it. I'm done with it. I will not give one nickel to that Rat.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 08:47 PM
Oct 2023

YouTube is trying fees to avoid ads now. When growth fails they all seek to maintain profit levels. Soon they'll all be like FeeBay. Remember when the internet was free, the best deal ever? Let's party like it's 1999!

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
7. I don't remember when the internet was "free"
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 08:59 PM
Oct 2023

You always paid for internet service and any quality content should come with a payment model to reimburse the producer.

bucolic_frolic

(55,142 posts)
14. Actually there were times in the early days when venture capital startups paid users
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:26 PM
Oct 2023

to contribute to their websites, depended on their business model. I was a member of an investors site that paid traders to write brief articles to recommend stocks, the idea being you would get more followers and eyeballs if your content paid off, so the site could pay you. I got a couple of modest 3 figure checks. But by the end they laid off all the employees and the CEO ran it for its last month, and paid out the rest of the venture capital grubstake.

Any tech MBA could pitch a startup business model to venture capitalists. They laid out tens and tens of millions on such startups. That's the grass roots of the engines of capitalism.

There were also free dialup services briefly. As I recall they limited you to a few hours a day, and ads were shown on their service. Then some had free regional numbers where you could dial-in without charge. They didn't last long either. Seems to me the early Kmart BlueLight internet access was such an item.

airplaneman

(1,386 posts)
20. I remember when you could look up a phone number for free and get an answer.
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:51 PM
Oct 2023

Now they look up the number but you pay to get it.
-Airplane

ananda

(35,145 posts)
8. Good idea!
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:01 PM
Oct 2023

Get his payment info and go from there!

No way would I put my payment info on X,
much less become a user.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
48. You can pay with Apple Pay without giving X your info
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 02:30 PM
Oct 2023

The majority of people have iPhones.

So, my 12 yr old grandson texts me last week - he was at the gas station and wanted to buy snacks. “Hey Grammie - can you send me $5,00?” I thought he was hacked but no - he asked me to send it thru Apple Pay. New world !!

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
49. Without Twitter and TicToc
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 02:36 PM
Oct 2023

We would be less aware of the horrors of this war.

I think the thousands of pics of injured, crying and dead children need to be seen. Gen Z is seeing this over on TicToc and the compassion from America kids in their replies is heart wrenching. Our kids all want to hug and take care of the injured kids. They are afraid the draft will come back

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
51. Except you have no idea who is taking the film and when it was taken
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 03:39 PM
Oct 2023

There is no vetting of the news you are seeing on social media. Reputable media companies are still doing this.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
56. Almost everyone has a cell phone now - most often you get multiple videos from multiple people
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 01:11 PM
Oct 2023

Hundreds of injured kids talking on video tell the story.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
54. Actually, a lot of us don't have iPhones.
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 05:59 AM
Oct 2023

Every smartphone I've owned so far has been an Android. Same goes for the tablet I'm typing this on, and I have no plans to switch. Apple products are too expensive for me.

I wouldn't give Eloon a dime of my money anyway. Not that I'll be asked to, because I'm not a new user. I've had a Twitter account for years that I practically never use but can't bring myself to delete for some odd reason.

The day he starts charging existing users will be the day I get rid of my account once and for all.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
13. I'd never give X my credit card info or my ID
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 09:22 PM
Oct 2023

... so I'm done with him, done with X.

I really hope X-linked posts are banned by DU very soon.

Screenshots are OK for those who are able, but the live links would be a mistake.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
21. I'm not an existing user of X
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 11:59 PM
Oct 2023

The only time I can see a Xweet is when someone posts it on DU.

XorXor

(690 posts)
25. That is where services like privacy(.)com come in
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 02:33 AM
Oct 2023

Even if not for Twitter, it's a useful service to have. Create virtual cards with various limits and use whatever name and address you want. It acts as a proxy for your real card.


*I refuse to call it X

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
55. You want to ban a sight that is one of the largest sources of news in the world?
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 01:06 PM
Oct 2023

Basically, every congress person and the President post on X.

Without X and other social media sights, we would right now be unaware of what is really going on in the world right now. Thousands rallying around the world in every county and in all our big cities and the traditional news is not covering it.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
58. I'm not sure how you got that idea
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 06:23 PM
Oct 2023

I didn't say X should be banned from anywhere.

What I've been espousing is that DU posters should only use screenshots of Xweets (with no live links) on DU. Many other DUers seem to agree because we are doing exactly that - posting screenshots rather than live links that reopen on X.

You want to go there and spend your time there? It's a free world. DU doesn't need to be creating more traffic for them.

BadGimp

(4,109 posts)
18. I like to approach and would gladly pay the fee
Tue Oct 17, 2023, 10:50 PM
Oct 2023

The immediate effect is it will clean up the customer base by making the management of Bots prohibitively expensive. At least I think it will.

I'm one of those rare birds that has long felt Twitter was a very valuable platform.

SoFlaBro

(3,790 posts)
22. Used to be. Now it is all fucking liquid shit on the floor and a piss-soaked user experience.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 01:48 AM
Oct 2023

shit

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
36. Obviously you don't know how to use it
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 12:43 AM
Oct 2023

It’s great if you do. You can follow all your favorite journalists, authors, artists, news organizations etc. You can follow Biden, Obama and congress people you like. I love it when I get into a discussion with some of my favorite authors. I can get lots of Covid info from around the world and I actually follow people who have long Covid and researchers working on understanding side effects.

SoFlaBro

(3,790 posts)
46. Then it is great because I do know how to use it. The first 20 replies on anybody I fucking follow is Nazis and shit. I hate that goddamn shit.
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 02:17 PM
Oct 2023

nhygft

XorXor

(690 posts)
24. Giving the benefit of the doubt that it's not just a money grab
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 02:30 AM
Oct 2023

I don't think this will do much stop big players in the influence campaign business. The most concerning and problematic ones have lots of money behind them. It's a hard problem to solve. Maybe it would impact it, but I don't have much hope. At least it won't have enough positive impact to make up for the negative impact from lost legitimate users

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
27. That's called a camel sticking his nose under the tent
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 06:32 AM
Oct 2023

This dumbass doesn't know how to monetize his own business

IronLionZion

(51,269 posts)
29. Even Bill Gates had floated fee ideas to thwart spam on platforms
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 08:02 AM
Oct 2023

Could be a good plan to reduce the number of bots. I read tweets but don't do anything else so I hope that stays free.

PatrickforB

(15,426 posts)
35. I laughed when I saw this earlier today. Yep. Good luck with that Elon!
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 08:30 PM
Oct 2023

I don't even go on there anymore.

You know, I'm not sure what it would look like, but we really, really need a twenty first century Fairness Doctrine. These darned social media platforms have way too much influence, and are way too vulnerable to things like Russian Cozy Bear, which arguably swayed the '16 election for Trumpy.

We have to get a handle on this Brooklynite.

37. If you click on an X link it takes you to a twitter.com URL.
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 01:51 AM
Oct 2023

Reporters always refer to it as "'X' , formerly known as Twitter." (DU even does that at the bottom of each page.)
We're just waiting for Musk to screw it up and have to sell it at a huge loss. Then the new owners can rename it Twitter.

SouthernDem4ever

(6,619 posts)
44. He will probably make your info available to our domestic terrorists
Thu Oct 19, 2023, 10:08 AM
Oct 2023

When they don't like you posting negative comments about DRUMP.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
57. Does he promise it will only be $1 a year? He won't change it to $1 per day?
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 02:39 PM
Oct 2023

I'm sure he will trick users like Trump does with his followers.

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