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BumRushDaShow

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Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:08 AM Oct 2023

Current US assessment is Israel was 'not responsible' for Gaza hospital blast, White House says

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Source: AP

Updated 12:03 PM EDT, October 18, 2023


TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — The White House said Wednesday that a current intelligence assessment shows Israel was “not responsible” for the explosion at a Gaza hospital, but that information was still being collected.

The assessment is “based on analysis of overhead imagery, intercepts and open source information,” National Security Council spokesperson Adrienne Watson said Wednesday in a social media post, following President Joe Biden’s comment to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that “based on what I’ve seen, it appears as though it was done by the other team, not you.”

There have been conflicting claims of who was responsible for the hospital blast. Officials in Gaza quickly blamed an Israeli airstrike. Israel denied it was involved and released a flurry of video, audio and other information that it said showed the blast was instead due to a missile misfire by Islamic Jihad, another militant group operating in Gaza. The Islamic Jihad dismissed that claim.

The Associated Press has not independently verified any of the claims or evidence released by the parties. Biden said there were “a lot of people out there” who weren’t sure what caused the blast, which sparked protests throughout the Middle East. He later said he made the assertion based off “data from my Defense Department.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-israel-hamas-gaza-palestinians-a85cb682fdc61b80285cf4ab354354ce



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Biden says Israel has agreed to allow humanitarian assistance to move into Gaza from Egypt

Updated 11:33 AM EDT, October 18, 2023


TEL AVIV, Israel to (AP) -- President Joe Biden said Wednesday that Israel had agreed to allow humanitarian assistance to begin flowing into Gaza from Egypt, with the understanding it would be subject to inspections and that it should go to civilians and not Hamas militants.

In remarks from Tel Aviv where the president had gone to show support for Israel following a brutal and deadly Oct. 7 attack that killed roughly 1,400 people, Biden cautioned the nation against all-consuming rage.

"I understand. Many Americans understand," Biden said, likening the attack to the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in the U.S. that killed nearly 3,000 people. "You can't look at what has happened here ... and not scream out for justice. While you feel that rage, don't be consumed by it."

Israel had cut off the flow of food, fuel and water to the Gaza Strip after the attack. Mediators have been struggling to break a deadlock over providing supplies to desperate civilians, aid groups and hospitals. An explosion at a Gaza Strip hospital compounded the suffering. Shortly after Biden's remarks, Israel confirmed food, water and medicine would begin to flow, though the timing wasn't immediately clear.



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Updated 11:01 AM EDT, October 18, 2023


TEL AVIV, Israel to (AP) -- President Joe Biden said Wednesday that Israel had agreed to allow humanitarian assistance to begin flowing into Gaza from Egypt with the understanding it would be subject to inspections and that it should go to civilians and not Hamas militants.

In remarks from Tel Aviv where the president had gone to show support for Israel following a brutal and deadly Oct. 7 attack that killed roughly 1,400 people, Biden cautioned the nation against all-consuming rage.

Israel cut off the flow of food, fuel and water in Gaza following the attack. Mediators have been struggling to break a deadlock over providing supplies to desperate civilians, aid groups and hospitals. Biden said that he had spoken with the Israeli cabinet "to agree to the delivery of life-saving humanitarian assistance of civilians in Gaza."

"Let me be clear," Biden said. If Hamas diverts or steals the assistance, they will have demonstrated once again that they have no concern for the welfare of the Palestinian people." Biden also said an additional $100 million in humanitarian assistance would be delivered to Gaza and the West Bank.
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Current US assessment is Israel was 'not responsible' for Gaza hospital blast, White House says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 OP
Good The Magistrate Oct 2023 #1
This is what leadership is. Bluethroughu Oct 2023 #2
Nice, so in only like 5 hours on the ground AkFemDem Oct 2023 #3
Israel should open its gates LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #4
Because what could possibly go wrong... AkFemDem Oct 2023 #5
One way open LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #6
A breach is a breach- AkFemDem Oct 2023 #7
Israel is about to open gates LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #8
Are you seriously suggesting AkFemDem Oct 2023 #9
Are you suggesting no aid to Gaza, only war? LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #11
Aid is on the way, via Egypt. AkFemDem Oct 2023 #12
Why depend on Egypt? LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #13
You can keep asking this but AkFemDem Oct 2023 #14
Israel will open the gates and send aid. LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #15
Right. Don't want the world to continue to blame them for being attacked. EllieBC Oct 2023 #16
Biden wants aid sent to Gaza LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #17
Let someone else bring it in. EllieBC Oct 2023 #18
Hamas needs to be crushed LiberaBlueDem Oct 2023 #19
It's not Israel's gates to open. Beastly Boy Oct 2023 #10
So they should... Zeitghost Oct 2023 #20
 

AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
3. Nice, so in only like 5 hours on the ground
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:15 AM
Oct 2023

In Israel, President Biden has already called Hamas out on their atrocious lie about who “bombed” the hospital parking lot- thus potentially helping squash reverberating chaos in neighboring nations from the Hamas lie, and has helped facilitate the opening of the gates for aid to reach the Palestinian people.

LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
4. Israel should open its gates
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:25 AM
Oct 2023

If it truly believes in humanitarian causes, Israel should not depend on Egypt but do it itself

 

AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
5. Because what could possibly go wrong...
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:32 AM
Oct 2023

When there’s a large group of armed terrorists whose very charter calls for the complete elimination of your entire people, if you physically open the gates that separate you. That sounds really reasonable.

LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
6. One way open
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:38 AM
Oct 2023

Let the food across the border and nothing back into Israel.

The failure of the IDF forces should not make Israel be so cruel.

 

AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
7. A breach is a breach-
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:41 AM
Oct 2023

One way is only one way if people choose to follow the rules- does Hamas strike you as an organization that’s into following rules?

No. It’s not Israel’s job to make themselves even more vulnerable.

LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
8. Israel is about to open gates
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:44 AM
Oct 2023

And let the soldiers through

Are you still in favor of the gates staying closed?

 

AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
9. Are you seriously suggesting
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:46 AM
Oct 2023

Food and humanitarian aid = strength and power of armed, highly trained troops??

LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
11. Are you suggesting no aid to Gaza, only war?
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:58 AM
Oct 2023

I am against war because innocents suffer

Only 2% of Gaza is Hamas, it is cruel that the 98% has to suffer.

Biden is correct in insisting aid flows and war is limited.

 

AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
12. Aid is on the way, via Egypt.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:00 PM
Oct 2023

Israel is not going to open their heavily damaged border to facilitate this, that would be beyond stupid and dangerous, end of story.

LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
13. Why depend on Egypt?
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:04 PM
Oct 2023

The IDF is now on duty, no reason to expect attacks to be a success.

The border with Egypt is way south and too far away for most of Gaza citizens.

LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
15. Israel will open the gates and send aid.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:10 PM
Oct 2023

It has to to, to stay on Biden's good side. Not to mention the world's good side as well.

EllieBC

(3,639 posts)
16. Right. Don't want the world to continue to blame them for being attacked.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:31 PM
Oct 2023

Just say you want them purged from the river to the sea like Hamas does.

LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
17. Biden wants aid sent to Gaza
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:35 PM
Oct 2023

As does most of the world. Food, not bombs, brings peace.

The IDF failed to secure the border, it will not fail again,

EllieBC

(3,639 posts)
18. Let someone else bring it in.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:37 PM
Oct 2023

Through the southern border. You know the one Egypt fortified? Why don’t they let Palestinians freely into their country?

Anyway, best of luck with your Hamas cheer squad.

LiberaBlueDem

(1,167 posts)
19. Hamas needs to be crushed
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 12:41 PM
Oct 2023

Your personal attack is not warranted

I am interested, like Biden is, on saving the innocents.

Israel needs to hold its troops and send aid

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
10. It's not Israel's gates to open.
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 11:52 AM
Oct 2023

It's Egypt's. What Israel wants is for the aid not to aid Hamas once it crosses into Gaza.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
20. So they should...
Wed Oct 18, 2023, 06:26 PM
Oct 2023

Allow the same people who broke through the border wall to slaughter 1,400 people to just walk right through the gates?

How is that a solution to any thing unless your goal is more dead Jews?

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