Biden would lose in matchup vs. Trump, according to CNBC survey; Israel funding has strong support

[Polybius]

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Source: CNBC

The CNBC All-America Economic Survey also finds support for President Joe Biden at nearly all-time lows and that he would lose by 4 points to former President Donald Trump in a head-to-head race.

According to the survey, 39% of the public believe the U.S. government should favor Israelis over Palestinians in their conflict, compared with 34% after the 2014 Gaza war. Meanwhile 36% believe the U.S. should treat both the same, compared with 53% in 2014. Nineteen percent are undecided, up from 9% in 2014, suggesting the situation remains fluid and actions by either side could still move public opinion. (The prior results come from an NBC News survey in August 2014 conducted one month after the Gaza war.)

Meanwhile, 74% of the public believe it is either somewhat or very important for the U.S. government to fund military aid to Israel. That compares with 72% who say it’s important to fund securing the border with Mexico and foreign humanitarian aid. A smaller, but still solid 61% majority respond that it’s important to fund military aid to Ukraine compared with 52% who support military and economic aid to Taiwan.

Meanwhile, a combination of negative views on the economy and geopolitical tensions looks to be eroding support for President Biden. Americans’ overall approval rating for the president fell to 37% with 58% disapproving. It’s the highest disapproval and second-lowest approval rating of Biden’s presidency.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/18/biden-would-lose-in-match-up-vs-trump-according-to-cnbc-survey-israel-funding-has-strong-support.html

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[lees1975]

1. Here we go again.

One survey and it gets splashed all over the news, while other surveys, with similar margins of error, showing different results, go ignored.

Outlier.

[MyNameIsJonas]

13. It's not a surprise CNBC would splash their own poll all over their network.

[Kali]

2. what the FUCK is wrong with people?

nevermind I know the main answer - fucking television.

[WarGamer]

3. This poll fails to support my preconceived biases thus it is trash.

I much prefer the poll from yesterday which made me happy.

[Old Crank]

4. Teh rise of the ignorati

fnned by the conservative press with their phoney both sides and Fox gotcha questions.

The US electorate is as ignorant as they come.

[peppertree]

5. CNBC is a Wall Street mouthpiece

"Give us a poll showing Biden in trouble," some plutocrat garbled to his CNBC toadie.

"And don't bother me until you're done, dammit. I'm expected at an orgy in St. Barts."

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. Nationwide polls are meaningless at this point

The only thing these polls confirm is that some people seem to enjoy running around with their hair on fire…

[thesquanderer]

10. Nationwide polls that declare who would win are ALWAYS meaningless.

If they weren't, Al Gore and Hillary Clinton would have been president.

We don't elect by national preference, it's the electoral college. If your premise is "who would beat who," polling in a half dozen crucial states would be a lot more meaningful than a national poll.

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. Exactly

I won’t pay attention until next summer’s swing state polls.

[Turbineguy]

7. Yeah. I want trump because I'm suicidal.

[badgolfer]

8. Biden poll numbers

Wall Street CEO's and MSM Executives want Biden gone.

This is why they consistently push bad polling data.

[stopdiggin]

9. didn't you post something diametrically opposite

just yesterday? (I might have the wrong poster in mind) Regardless, that poll had Biden up by 3-4 points in a head to head - and it went higher than that with RFK factored.

[nwduke]

11. Stop with the stupid ass propaganda polls

Remember the 2022 “Big Red Wave”?

[Jimvanhise]

12. MISSING INFORMATION

How many people did they survey? Isn't the average about 1200? And if done by phone it is only the people who didn't hang up on them.

[riversedge]

14. GEEZ. What the Fu** does Biden have to do to please folks more!!

[TeamProg]

15. Yah I DON'T THINK SO.

[IronLionZion]

16. Plenty of MAGA/Freepers claiming "this would never have happened with Trump"

for both Ukraine and Israel.

Because they apparently missed the several enemy state-sponsored military grade cyberattacks on the US all during Trump's presidency.

[Shellback Squid]

18. cool story bro

[JohnSJ]

19. National Poll, republican pollster, runs the opposite to the national poll by another pollster

yesterday.

From this poll the following:

“You don’t get sub 40 approval ratings without losing large chunks of your base. And that’s what’s happening here,″ said Micah Roberts, partner at Public Opinion Strategies, the Republican pollster for the survey. He called the data “distressing numbers for a president facing reelection.”

Why do polls like this make the wording seem like it is a done deal?

A significant number of undecided also reflected in this poll.
I strongly recommend people read the details of this poll in the link.

To suggest that a large number of Democrats, mostly young, will not vote for Biden over Trump I don’t buy for a minute, and even the wording in the narrative seems to have a bias built in.

[onetexan]

20. BS poll. Dont pay attention to RW nonsense

[Polybius]

23. RW?

CNBC's is rated "Lean Left."



https://www.allsides.com/news-source/cnbc#:~:text=2023%20Blind%20Bias%20Survey,2023%20Blind%20Bias%20Survey.

[JohnSJ]

24. I don't care what they rate it, CNBC has always leaned to the right. Joe Kernan, Kudlow,

Bartiromo were pushing right wing talking points for years.

The pollster himself is a republican pollster

If I want to watch unbias news I will watch Bloomberg or PBS new hour

“You don’t get sub 40 approval ratings without losing large chunks of your base. And that’s what’s happening here,″ said Micah Roberts, partner at Public Opinion Strategies, the Republican pollster for the survey. He called the data “distressing numbers for a president facing reelection.”

[bringthePaine]

21. utter bullshit

[3825-87867]

22. C N B C

Cramer's Never Been Correct

[emulatorloo]

25. Romney was beating Obama a year out from the election.

Polls a year out from the election don’t mean much.

[maxrandb]

26. This has never happened to me before,

but one night in college, my girlfriend and her roommate came over to study.....

- Penthouse Forum

[rickford66]

30. Same thing happened to me, twice !

[orangecrush]

35. ...

[NoMoreRepugs]

27. Who in the hell are these morons responding to this survey??

I call BULLSHIT.

[videohead5]

28. Which poll do we believe?

The poll that was released in the last day or two showing Biden winning by 3 points and even more with RFK Jr running or this one?

[womanofthehills]

31. 3 presidential polls were released the past few days according to five thirty eight

1 has Biden ahead and 2 have Trump ahead. They are neck and neck. I think it’s worrisome as large numbers of respondents identified themselves as independents. None of those polls had RFK Jr. Included. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

[oldsoftie]

37. People would rather bash the polls than look for reasons WHY.

But battleground state polls are all that matters to me. National polls are meaningless because you dont win nationally.

[Deep State Witch]

29. Yeah, CNBC

The network that still keeps Jim Cramer employed, even though he told people to buy right before the Stock Market crashed in 2008.

[ColinC]

32. Buried in the article despite the headline is that the margin is 4%

And the MOE is 3.1% with 12% undecided.

[hay rick]

33. It's always a good time to buy gold! nt

[TNNurse]

34. Bullshit!

[prodigitalson]

36. On Israel/Palestine mostly a ten point jump in 'not sure'

[oldsoftie]

38. Call me when they do battleground state polls.

The election will be won in Ga, Pa, Wi, Mi, Az & Nv

[4lbs]

39. Of course. CNBC is pro-business. Biden's recent actions and policies

support the worker over the business.

So, umm... of course CNBC would have a crapfest about it.

Remember, this is the station that Jim Cramer has been bleating his crap on for years.

Other business channels and sites also are anti-Biden.

[Lasher]

40. Locking, we don't normally allow polls in LBN

Please consider reposting in the GD Forum.