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ificandream

(11,836 posts)
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 04:04 PM Oct 2023

Quash my subpoena, Ivanka Trump tells NY judge, in asking not to testify against her father.

Source: Business Insider

Ivanka Trump is fighting hard against being forced to testify against her father and brothers in the ongoing Trump civil fraud trial in New York.

On the eve of a Friday deadline, by which she must agree to take the stand as early as later this month, her lawyer made a lengthy objection to her subpoena.

The objection, in court papers filed late Thursday, calls the New York Attorney General's Office subpoena overly broad.

It also accuses the AG's office of botching how it served Ivanka Trump with her subpoena, alleging a technical foul her lawyer says should invalidate her obligation to testify.

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/quash-my-subpoena-ivanka-trump-asks-dads-fraud-trial-judge-2023-10

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Quash my subpoena, Ivanka Trump tells NY judge, in asking not to testify against her father. (Original Post) ificandream Oct 2023 OP
Sorry, Vankie, but it's a family affair calguy Oct 2023 #1
Spousal privilege doesn't apply... GopherGal Oct 2023 #5
Good point calguy Oct 2023 #7
That makes total sense. calimary Oct 2023 #55
And in this case the mud is thicker than the blood BeyondGeography Oct 2023 #26
Not to mention, it's the opposite in Florida... carpetbagger Oct 2023 #68
Why didn't I think of that?!?!? Layzeebeaver Oct 2023 #70
humor appreciated! Same here Evolve Dammit Oct 2023 #105
Don't Give Daddy (More) Ideas smb Oct 2023 #83
Ivanka DENVERPOPS Oct 2023 #91
Pleading the 5th in a civil case? HariSeldon Oct 2023 #94
But making her take the 5th is not good in civil cases Jarqui Oct 2023 #103
Poor little princess n/t hibbing Oct 2023 #2
If Trump gets back in office. . . TheBlackAdder Oct 2023 #88
Judge guy doesn't think MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #3
Sorry czarina... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #4
What you said. MontanaMama Oct 2023 #6
I'm having some fun... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #35
Kidney Tuneups!!! MOMFUDSKI Oct 2023 #36
That is thoroughly and totally evil of you. Aristus Oct 2023 #40
Ummm, they do have $2B tucked away. LakeArenal Oct 2023 #78
Somehow... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #87
Yep, no one told her unqualified behind to take the position of senior advisor... brush Oct 2023 #17
It was surely something to see... 2naSalit Oct 2023 #34
She is also a consultant Beachnutt Oct 2023 #37
God, what a cringe moment. Aristus Oct 2023 #41
Heehee. Cringe worthy indeed. brush Oct 2023 #43
She stuck her skank bum ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #89
Don't forget they also laughed at daddy ... aggiesal Oct 2023 #49
What an embarrassment that criminal a-hole was there. nt Justice matters. Oct 2023 #65
There and everywhere else. 3catwoman3 Oct 2023 #81
That was priceless. tonekat Oct 2023 #54
... trusty elf Oct 2023 #71
Hahahahahhahaha! That's about it all right. brush Oct 2023 #72
Boge moi! ChazInAz Oct 2023 #112
Occupying the White House was a Business Opportunity too good to avoid in Trump Landia msfiddlestix Oct 2023 #74
You would think that she would love to testify and set the record straight for Daddy. Chainfire Oct 2023 #8
Exactly! swong19104 Oct 2023 #20
This holds for all the perps surrounding tfg. erronis Oct 2023 #28
C'mon, Sparklepuss, spill the beans! lastlib Oct 2023 #60
Da da da Da da da Da da DAD Rocknation Oct 2023 #110
She doesn't want to tell on daddy JoseBalow Oct 2023 #9
Oh no claudette Oct 2023 #10
Kiss,.. kiss,... kiss,.. magicarpet Oct 2023 #11
I know!!!! Karma13612 Oct 2023 #58
Different kisses keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #98
Both are disgusting... 3catwoman3 Oct 2023 #106
This message was self-deleted by its author magicarpet Oct 2023 #13
That thumb seems to be wandering into side boob territory. TheBlackAdder Oct 2023 #15
He's all over it, so to speak. dchill Oct 2023 #53
Terra incognito, I'm sure. Their family tree is stable. Marcuse Oct 2023 #69
*side fake boob territory* FIXED ;-) BamaRefugee Oct 2023 #93
Damn...I need eye bleach. Them there's two sickos. Comfortably_Numb Oct 2023 #18
EEEEUUUWWW SunSeeker Oct 2023 #50
outside of the perviness Skittles Oct 2023 #73
Ugh! smb Oct 2023 #85
she wants mushroom time Celerity Oct 2023 #96
Don't cry daddy ... daddy, please don't cry ... ificandream Oct 2023 #12
Touch me where you shouldn't Daddy. magicarpet Oct 2023 #16
I had forgotten about these incest photos. Comfortably_Numb Oct 2023 #21
I had forgotten just HOW creepy they were. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #56
Yeah, I can't look at that. That is fucking creepy! C Moon Oct 2023 #59
Repugnant Comfortably_Numb Oct 2023 #63
Lol! Hope22 Oct 2023 #90
Don't cry for me, Daddy Trumpie!!! greatauntoftriplets Oct 2023 #66
After seeing those photos, my late mother... 3catwoman3 Oct 2023 #107
Ivanka, you don't want to testify under oath your dad and your brothers are just criminals and liars without any morals? Not a problem. Wonder Why Oct 2023 #14
Daddy, they made me testify. sarcasmo Oct 2023 #19
This whole family demands to be entitled Deuxcents Oct 2023 #22
Dear Crown Princess: this is America Hekate Oct 2023 #23
"We regard Ivanka Trump the way we do half-wit Saudi princes. It's in our national interest to flatter them." keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #100
I remember that vividly. I laughed out loud when I read it. Hekate Oct 2023 #104
"Quash my subpoena" LudwigPastorius Oct 2023 #24
Too bad, princess orangecrush Oct 2023 #25
Show us on the doll where daddy touched you Blue Owl Oct 2023 #27
Would flip on him multigraincracker Oct 2023 #29
Give her liberty, or give her 30 days in jail Kennah Oct 2023 #30
Sorry, Ivanka, the family that grifts together inevitably ends up in court together. justhanginon Oct 2023 #31
The Trump family doesn't want to be divided? Rich, after Mexican family border separations bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #32
Excellent point. ificandream Oct 2023 #44
Like the gop in general, she'll say one thing in public about TFG and do something else out of view. nt wiggs Oct 2023 #33
Poor Widdle Pwincess! Scottie Mom Oct 2023 #38
I always loved the looks Angela Merkel gave princess trumpette LOL! Ziggysmom Oct 2023 #39
This clip is really funny, as are... 3catwoman3 Oct 2023 #82
Where's the Gratitude for Not Being a Party to the Charges?? The Roux Comes First Oct 2023 #42
You stopped being a family Tree Lady Oct 2023 #45
Yep. Speaking of taxes, anyone saw hers?? Justice matters. Oct 2023 #67
She is guaranteed to remember moniss Oct 2023 #46
Like a certain German guard at Stalag 13 ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2023 #62
Ooohhh...Princess Sparklepony has a sad. llmart Oct 2023 #47
Sean Hannity says, "just comply." nt Hotler Oct 2023 #48
Tough shit, Sunshine. SunSeeker Oct 2023 #51
Fine then we sue her too. AllyCat Oct 2023 #52
It seems dangerous for the court to do anything half-assed truthisfreedom Oct 2023 #57
Daddy who? czarjak Oct 2023 #61
I had to find out what kind of "technical foul" her lawyers are claiming. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #64
So - Even Trump's Daughter Ivanka Isn't Immune from the MAGA Death Threats! panfluteman Oct 2023 #75
Entitled rich brat Skwishy Oct 2023 #76
To say nothing of Jar-Jar peppertree Oct 2023 #77
Wi es don't testify against their husband.... Oh wait.... LakeArenal Oct 2023 #79
"I had to testify, Daddy. I look terrible in orange!" n/t ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 2023 #80
sorry charlie. AllaN01Bear Oct 2023 #84
But why on earth Maine Abu El Banat Oct 2023 #86
"American Patriots" - deleted tweet, Ivanka Trump, January 6th Duncan Grant Oct 2023 #92
Poor Little Princess Sparkle Pony AverageOldGuy Oct 2023 #95
Hey Ivanka were you sitting at the table when this shit was going on..... turbinetree Oct 2023 #97
A quote from The Great Gatsby: IcyPeas Oct 2023 #99
You were hired and paid as an employee, not a family member. Right? keithbvadu2 Oct 2023 #101
I can't help MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #102
I commented higher in the thread that my late mother... 3catwoman3 Oct 2023 #108
This message was self-deleted by its author Rocknation Oct 2023 #109
She was inside Mz Pip Oct 2023 #111
Can she hide in Florida? bluestarone Oct 2023 #113
We need to visit WHY she was removed from the charges. Thunderbeast Oct 2023 #114
Veruca responds Kennah Oct 2023 #115

calguy

(6,148 posts)
1. Sorry, Vankie, but it's a family affair
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 04:08 PM
Oct 2023

Unless you're married you father, you must testify.

Sucks to be a trump these days.

GopherGal

(2,898 posts)
5. Spousal privilege doesn't apply...
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 04:16 PM
Oct 2023

no matter how much Daddy wishes he was married to you.

Come to think of it, that's probably the only reason he's still married to Malaria: so she can't be compelled to testify against him.

carpetbagger

(5,480 posts)
68. Not to mention, it's the opposite in Florida...
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 12:54 AM
Oct 2023

You don't marry your kids to get spousal privelege. In Palm Beach, rich guys adopt their girlfriends to shield wealth from civil suits.

Layzeebeaver

(2,285 posts)
70. Why didn't I think of that?!?!?
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 03:04 AM
Oct 2023

Oh wait, let me think...

1) Not rich (Damnit!)
2) Not living in Florida (Thank you sweet risen Jesus!)
3) Not dating someone young enough to be my daughter (if I had one - although... Hmmm... must assume wife would strongly disapprove.)
4) Not stupid (most of the time)

Whew! Guess I dodged a bullet there.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
91. Ivanka
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 01:10 PM
Oct 2023

could very honestly take the fifth......saying she doesn't have to testify, because she cannot be compelled to testify on the grounds she may incriminate herself with her testimony about her father. AND everyone knows that is perfectly believable as the entire family was in on every last grift that took place in daddy's occupation of the white house..........

So let's not waste time, months and months, arguing something that has a foregone conclusion...........

HariSeldon

(541 posts)
94. Pleading the 5th in a civil case?
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 03:38 PM
Oct 2023

The judge can allow the jury to draw a negative inference from the refusal to testify on 5th Amendment grounds: business people are supposed to run their businesses in a way that doesn't put them in jeopardy of incriminating themselves with testimony.

Jarqui

(10,905 posts)
103. But making her take the 5th is not good in civil cases
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 08:30 PM
Oct 2023

Inferences can be drawn by the judge.

So they should make her to help their case.

As well, the only reason she isn't defending the civil claim herself is the fraud they had her on got wiped out by the statute of limitations.

Some of her motivation here is self preservation in the media because the media will remind everyone she got off on a technicality.

That family including her made hundreds of millions of Americans suffer.
She deserves every bit of discomfort she's got coming and then some while she basks in the money the Saudis showered her with.

2naSalit

(102,426 posts)
4. Sorry czarina...
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 04:13 PM
Oct 2023

You did the crime, pay the consequences. You were subpoenaed, comply or else.


Oh, and fuck you.

2naSalit

(102,426 posts)
35. I'm having some fun...
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 06:25 PM
Oct 2023

Thinking about how she's not going to be wealthy when she's old and how she is going to look when she can't afford the kidney tune ups like she's going to want.



PS I never had any work done, never expected to be Miss America and I'm old and hopelessly wrinkled so I'm already there. Can't wait to welcome her to the club

2naSalit

(102,426 posts)
87. Somehow...
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 11:40 AM
Oct 2023

I bet that's already gone and if not, it could be considered money for fines and legal fees, which will be pricey.

I'm going to dream her old and very sorry.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
17. Yep, no one told her unqualified behind to take the position of senior advisor...
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 04:40 PM
Oct 2023

in the trump admin. I still crack up when I think of her trying to insinuate herself into a conversation of IMF veterans at a conference...the look on their faces (what the fuck is she going on about) as they listened to her for a few seconds before dismissing her as the of-no-consequence, lightweight that she remains.

She had no business being there, or being a senior advisor to anything, except for maybe how to give lap dances to daddy.

2naSalit

(102,426 posts)
34. It was surely something to see...
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 06:20 PM
Oct 2023

With equal disgust and amusement as she was shown how others really see her. I can't wait until she gets hers... too.

Aristus

(72,114 posts)
41. God, what a cringe moment.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 07:09 PM
Oct 2023

Wasn't it something along the lines of "Hey, gang! Isn't my Daddy doing, um, like, you know, just a totally awesome job as President?"

I would have been like "Yeah, honey, the shoe clerk convention is in another hotel!..."

aggiesal

(10,759 posts)
49. Don't forget they also laughed at daddy ...
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:28 PM
Oct 2023

at the U.N. when Daddy said his administration has accomplished more in less than 2 years than any President in the history.

3catwoman3

(29,327 posts)
81. There and everywhere else.
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 10:22 AM
Oct 2023

When I see that fugly smirking face, there is part of me that still has trouble believing that ass was actually POTUS - a 4 year prank.

msfiddlestix

(8,178 posts)
74. Occupying the White House was a Business Opportunity too good to avoid in Trump Landia
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 08:58 AM
Oct 2023

It was all about furthering there "business" schemes.
that was the point of Trump aiming for the potus in the first place.
Of course the attention of his cult followers fawning over him and his daughter was icing on the cake.

swong19104

(616 posts)
20. Exactly!
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 04:41 PM
Oct 2023

If daddy and brothers were innocent, she would love to have her chance to testify and clear all the misconceptions and exonerate her family. Why wouldn't she want to have that chance?

erronis

(23,747 posts)
28. This holds for all the perps surrounding tfg.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 05:16 PM
Oct 2023

If you were doing things that weren't illegal, then be proud to testify.

I'm surprised this doesn't come up more in conversations about all of the clowns, hucksters, cons, lawyers (maybe they're all the same.)

lastlib

(28,184 posts)
60. C'mon, Sparklepuss, spill the beans!
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 11:32 PM
Oct 2023

Daddy isn't gonna live much longer, and he'll be put away for most (if not all) of his remaining time, so you don't have to put up with him much after you spill it. You'll still get your inheritance ( what the legal fees and damages/fines don't take, anyway).

Besides, it may be all that saves your bacon as well.

Karma13612

(4,979 posts)
58. I know!!!!
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 11:19 PM
Oct 2023

I have one where she is about 16 and they’re in a limo. He’s got her in one of those caveman neck holds.

Can’t believe it wasn’t all over the TV in the 2016 election. I know it’s supposed to be hands off family but this was gross.

He’s a very bad father, among a long list of other failures.

Response to JoseBalow (Reply #9)

magicarpet

(18,488 posts)
16. Touch me where you shouldn't Daddy.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 04:36 PM
Oct 2023

It will make us both feel better.

Let me sit in your lap,.. let the fondling begin.

Oh Daddy,... you are such a he man.

ShazzieB

(22,550 posts)
56. I had forgotten just HOW creepy they were.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 11:16 PM
Oct 2023

There are degrees of creepy, and this stuff is creepy to the max.

Hope22

(4,717 posts)
90. Lol!
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 12:59 PM
Oct 2023

Barbs comment always brings a smile! I say we let Ivanka speak at her own trial then. No way her skirts are clean……

3catwoman3

(29,327 posts)
107. After seeing those photos, my late mother...
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 09:11 PM
Oct 2023

…was quite certain that Ivanka had been molested by her creepy dad.

There are certainly no pictures like that of my father and me.

Wonder Why

(6,918 posts)
14. Ivanka, you don't want to testify under oath your dad and your brothers are just criminals and liars without any morals? Not a problem.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 04:30 PM
Oct 2023

Just go on MSNBC and publicly state everything you know.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
100. "We regard Ivanka Trump the way we do half-wit Saudi princes. It's in our national interest to flatter them."
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 07:29 PM
Oct 2023
http://www.newsweek.com/indian-diplomat-compares-ivanka-trump-half-wit-saudi-prince-650206

"We regard Ivanka Trump the way we do half-wit Saudi princes. It's in our national interest to flatter them.”

wiggs

(8,791 posts)
33. Like the gop in general, she'll say one thing in public about TFG and do something else out of view. nt
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 05:42 PM
Oct 2023

Scottie Mom

(5,838 posts)
38. Poor Widdle Pwincess!
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 06:54 PM
Oct 2023

See a tear in my eye? NOT!

She got herself in this jam and it's too F/N bad that she has to tell the truth about Dah--Dee. If she saw something illegal, she should have gotten the hell out of Dodge.

JMHO.

3catwoman3

(29,327 posts)
82. This clip is really funny, as are...
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 10:33 AM
Oct 2023

…the real Merkel eye rolls.

Thnx for posting it.

The Roux Comes First

(2,275 posts)
42. Where's the Gratitude for Not Being a Party to the Charges??
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 07:13 PM
Oct 2023

But I guess "unaccountable" and "ungrateful" are probably in her DNA.

Not to mention "entitled."

Tree Lady

(13,258 posts)
45. You stopped being a family
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 08:03 PM
Oct 2023

when you went to work for the White House which we all as citizens control and pay for with our taxes.

Justice matters.

(9,749 posts)
67. Yep. Speaking of taxes, anyone saw hers??
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 12:10 AM
Oct 2023

A familly of lifetime fraudsters... sure must be some frauds in hers.

llmart

(17,584 posts)
47. Ooohhh...Princess Sparklepony has a sad.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 08:47 PM
Oct 2023

Daddy promised her she'd be the first female President and now all she got was a subpoena. Too bad, so sad. Suck it up, buttercup.

SunSeeker

(58,240 posts)
51. Tough shit, Sunshine.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:55 PM
Oct 2023

You're gonna have to testify. Waiting until literally the last minute to object, and then objecting on the bullshit basis of "overbreadth" and a ticky tacky service objection (after you evaded service), is not going to impress the judge.

truthisfreedom

(23,531 posts)
57. It seems dangerous for the court to do anything half-assed
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 11:18 PM
Oct 2023

It’s so important for there to be zero wiggle room for these corrupt monsters.

ShazzieB

(22,550 posts)
64. I had to find out what kind of "technical foul" her lawyers are claiming.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 11:55 PM
Oct 2023

Here's what the article says:

The objection, in court papers filed late Thursday, calls the New York Attorney General's Office subpoena overly broad. It also accuses the AG's office of botching how it served Ivanka Trump with her subpoena, alleging a technical foul her lawyer says should invalidate her obligation to testify.

The technical foul? Copies of the subpoena was sent to three of her corporate addresses, but not to her personally, said the lawyer, Bennet J. Moskowitz.

"Each of these three subpoenas listed Ms. Trump's name only in the 'to' line above the LLCs' names and the names and addresses of their registered agents," Moskowitz wrote.

"The body of the Subpoenas requested a 'personal appearance' 'to give testimony' at trial but did not identify any specific employee, officer, or director that the NYAG wanted to appear," he wrote.


I'm no legal expert, but it sounds pretty weak to me. She must be really desperate not to testify to resort to such a flimsy pretext for trying to beg off. Poor little Ivanka. Please pardon me while I blot away my crocodile tears.*blows nose* There, that will do.

panfluteman

(2,193 posts)
75. So - Even Trump's Daughter Ivanka Isn't Immune from the MAGA Death Threats!
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 09:46 AM
Oct 2023

Heck - for wannabe dictator Donald Trump, this is all out war against the DOJ, the American legal system, and even the US Constitution itself! As they say, extreme circumstances call for extreme measures.

peppertree

(23,306 posts)
77. To say nothing of Jar-Jar
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 09:59 AM
Oct 2023

He should be forced to disgorge the billions he collected by shaking down Qatar and coddling the Saudis.

But he really does seem to be above the law - at least thus far.

Duncan Grant

(8,918 posts)
92. "American Patriots" - deleted tweet, Ivanka Trump, January 6th
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 02:31 PM
Oct 2023

If this were real life, Ivanka would be the most duplicitous and treacherous character.

turbinetree

(27,474 posts)
97. Hey Ivanka were you sitting at the table when this shit was going on.....
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 07:03 PM
Oct 2023

or how about traipsing from office to office....me thinks so.....your eye balls deep into the shit show....

Start this for practice in front of a mirror .....

Do you Swear To TELL The Whole Truth and nothing but the Truth, so help you god......no finger crossed ........

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,461 posts)
102. I can't help
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 07:48 PM
Oct 2023

but feel a bit sorry for her.

Yes, her family is criminal scum, but I remember her comment to someone when he walked into some pageant dressing room, and Ivanka casually replied, "Oh, he always does that." That is NOT normal. I have no doubt he sexually molested her, and maybe even raped her. And maybe worse.

She's a criminal, but she's also a victim.

3catwoman3

(29,327 posts)
108. I commented higher in the thread that my late mother...
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 09:25 PM
Oct 2023

…was certain that Ivanka had been sexually abused.

Response to ificandream (Original post)

Mz Pip

(28,439 posts)
111. She was inside
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 10:55 PM
Oct 2023

And she knows things. No wonder she wants to stay clear of the whole mess. She’s been remarkably silent the past few years, unlike her whacko brothers. She probably could bring down their whole house of cards and doesn’t want to be the one to do it,

Thunderbeast

(3,813 posts)
114. We need to visit WHY she was removed from the charges.
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 08:43 PM
Oct 2023

She was originally a defendant. James separated her before the trial. Speculation was that she agreed to be a witness to the mobster family business practices.

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