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BumRushDaShow

(169,519 posts)
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 08:26 PM Oct 2023

Federal judge pauses limited gag order on Trump in 2020 election interference case

Source: CBS News

Updated on: October 20, 2023 / 6:35 PM


D.C. District Judge Tanya Chutkan has issued an administrative stay, agreeing to temporarily pause her partial gag order of former President Donald Trump to give the parties time to submit appeal briefs. The stay is not related to the merits of the case.

Late Friday afternoon in a court filing, Trump defense attorneys asked Judge Chutkan to stay the limited gag order she issued against Trump in the 2020 election conspiracy criminal case, while Trump appeals the order, arguing that it's unconstitutional.

On Monday, Judge Chutkan ordered Trump not to make posts or statements "targeting" court staff, potential witnesses in the case, special counsel Jack Smith or his family. Prosecutors made a lengthy argument that Trump's posts could contribute to danger or violence and could contaminate the jury pool ahead of his March 4, 2024 trial here in Washington, D.C.

Trump's latest filing argues the gag order and the prosecution are politically motivated. The defense wrote "No Court in American history has imposed a gag order on a ... defendant who is campaigning for public office-least of all on the leading candidate for President."

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/limited-gag-order-on-trump-in-2020-election-interference-case-paused/

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Federal judge pauses limited gag order on Trump in 2020 election interference case (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 OP
Time to stop the coddling and let trump put on his long pants. republianmushroom Oct 2023 #1
Old Enough? GB_RN Oct 2023 #3
Kabuki theater. nt BootinUp Oct 2023 #2
He's trying to use his campaign spiel on the judge ificandream Oct 2023 #4
Leading candidate for President, my ass. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #5
It should matter even more if the person indicted is a candidate for president Ohioboy Oct 2023 #10
He's actually losing badly. Even Republicans at my bridge club... ananda Oct 2023 #13
Oh, that is great to hear! ShazzieB Oct 2023 #19
That's what I'm hoping! ananda Oct 2023 #22
Well your Bridge club members are a minority. progressoid Oct 2023 #24
Well, they are still pretty horrible conservatives. ananda Oct 2023 #25
For gawd's sake...he's a criminal defendant on pre-sentence release! Scottie Mom Oct 2023 #6
He's a fucken insurrectionist SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #7
So his argument is, "In order to campaign, I need to be able to spew hate." n/t thesquanderer Oct 2023 #8
I like how Trump thinks just because it's never been done for a president before Ohioboy Oct 2023 #9
Judge Chutkan is confident the appeal will be rejected... Justice matters. Oct 2023 #11
Relax she's appeal-proofing this case DJ Porkchop Oct 2023 #12
Count on DU to over-react to anything having to do with Orange Man. SlimJimmy Oct 2023 #14
Same reason why I think the prosecution hasn't pushed for him to be jailed. NYC Liberal Oct 2023 #17
Yup. And giving him just enough rope to hang himself KPN Oct 2023 #20
He left the post attacking the court clerk up. Farmer-Rick Oct 2023 #15
Different case. onenote Oct 2023 #21
Yeah, I know Farmer-Rick Oct 2023 #23
Lock the bass turd up already! RocRizzo55 Oct 2023 #16
Trump's been given license to show his true colors this weekend bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #18
She did this to avoid a trial delay.... getagrip_already Oct 2023 #26
Seems every piece of paper filed is a 2-week delay. Hotler Oct 2023 #27
When he promised informally to refrain from making inflamitory statements, she knew ... marble falls Oct 2023 #28

republianmushroom

(22,317 posts)
1. Time to stop the coddling and let trump put on his long pants.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 08:30 PM
Oct 2023

He is old enough to know right from wrong.

GB_RN

(3,554 posts)
3. Old Enough?
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 08:42 PM
Oct 2023

Yes. Capable? Not so much…at least not in the conventional sense. For the Mango Mussolini, right and wrong are concepts that only apply with respect to how something does/not benefit him. If it benefits him, it’s right. If not, it’s wrong.

ificandream

(11,836 posts)
4. He's trying to use his campaign spiel on the judge
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 08:43 PM
Oct 2023

Sorry, but it ain't gonna work. You know, however, he's keeping tabs on all this shit for an eventual appeal.

ShazzieB

(22,568 posts)
5. Leading candidate for President, my ass.
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 08:46 PM
Oct 2023

Last edited Sat Oct 21, 2023, 12:18 AM - Edit history (1)

AS IF that should matter, even if it were true.

Mango Mussolini is NOT the "leading candidate for president." He is, for some inexplicable and nonsensical reason, the leading candidate for the Republican nomination, but that is NOT the same thing.

Furthermore, running for president should not afford or entitle him to any special privileges. No matter how firmly he may believe in his narcissistic mind that he is the most special snowflake who ever snowflaked, he is not, and the sooner one of these judges can drum that into his head, the better off we will all be.

P.S. Fuck Donald John Trump.

Ohioboy

(3,891 posts)
10. It should matter even more if the person indicted is a candidate for president
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:55 PM
Oct 2023

We shouldn't have potential convicted criminals running for president, period.

We voted this ass out once already! He needs to go away!

ananda

(35,111 posts)
13. He's actually losing badly. Even Republicans at my bridge club...
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 09:34 AM
Oct 2023

are saying they'd rather vote for a squirrel than for Trump
because of "what he did."

And this is Texas.

progressoid

(53,163 posts)
24. Well your Bridge club members are a minority.
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 09:15 AM
Oct 2023
https://texaspolitics.utexas.edu/blog/latest-uttexas-politics-project-poll-finds-texas-republicans%E2%80%99-support-donald-trump-unwavering


As the 2024 race for the Republican nomination begins to take shape, the August 2023 University of Texas/Texas Politics Project Poll finds Texas Republicans’ continued support for former president Donald Trump evident in several results ranging from general assessments to attitudes toward the criminal indictments against him, the legitimacy of the 2020 presidential election, and beliefs about the January 6 storming of the U.S. Capitol led by supporters of the former president.

Overall, 41% of Texas voters reported a favorable view of Trump while 51% had an unfavorable view, with the small remainder offering no opinion. Following the pattern that has persisted since he won the presidency in 2016, partisan views were polarized: 86% of Democrats hold unfavorable views of the former president (81% very unfavorable), while 7% hold a favorable view. Among Republicans, 79% hold a favorable view (55% very favorable), while 15% view Trump unfavorably.

The most recent UT/Texas Politics Project Poll was conducted August 18-29, 2023, with a sample of 1200 self-declared registered voters, with a margin of error of +/- 2.83%. Data collection was carried out by YouGov via the internet. Selected results from the poll related to the impeachment trial of suspended attorney general Ken Paxton were released September 1, and are included in summary documents and compiled results now available on the Texas Politics Project website.

Asked whether the major indictments of Trump were mostly “based on the facts” or “mostly based on politics,” Republicans held remarkably sympathetic views of Trump’s many legal entanglements: 80% or more of Texas Republicans said that politics were the primary basis for the criminal charges against Trump in investigations into his mishandling of classified documents after he left office (80%), his indictment for conspiring to overturn the 2020 election results in the U.S. (85%), and in Georgia (83%). A comparatively smaller but still clear majority believe that the charges brought against Trump for illegally paying money to an adult film star were mostly based on politics (70%).

ananda

(35,111 posts)
25. Well, they are still pretty horrible conservatives.
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 10:22 AM
Oct 2023

But I thought maybe it was a good sign anyway.

Scottie Mom

(5,838 posts)
6. For gawd's sake...he's a criminal defendant on pre-sentence release!
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 08:56 PM
Oct 2023

What the hell does he think he deserves? A parade?

Talk about BS privilege. ALL criminal defendants have terms imposed on them for release. He is no better than any other crook and insurrectionist.

Geez!

Ohioboy

(3,891 posts)
9. I like how Trump thinks just because it's never been done for a president before
Fri Oct 20, 2023, 10:51 PM
Oct 2023

it shouldn't be done to him.

That's because most presidents haven't been indicted! Don't get indicted and it won't happen to you, idiot.

Justice matters.

(9,769 posts)
11. Judge Chutkan is confident the appeal will be rejected...
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 12:21 AM
Oct 2023

And the SC will toss it out as frivolous... (they don't want to destroy their own 'powers')...

That will pretty much solidify her sentencing power once the jury will convict that disgusting a-hole.

SlimJimmy

(3,251 posts)
14. Count on DU to over-react to anything having to do with Orange Man.
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 09:50 AM
Oct 2023

The judge is doing the right thing here, as you said. She is simply appeal proofing the case. Smart.

NYC Liberal

(20,453 posts)
17. Same reason why I think the prosecution hasn't pushed for him to be jailed.
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 01:06 PM
Oct 2023

It just gives him another avenue to appeal and delay.

Should he be, objectively? Probably. I'm sure you or I would be. But in this case, the best thing is to get to the trial as quickly as possible, because that's exactly what he does not want.

Farmer-Rick

(12,643 posts)
15. He left the post attacking the court clerk up.
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 11:52 AM
Oct 2023

Even after he was warned to remove it by the judge.

"Justice Arthur Engoron said a Trump social media post attacking the judge's clerk - which was deleted from the former president's Truth Social platform - had remained visible on his 2024 campaign website two weeks after an order was issued to take it down."

https://www.reuters.com/legal/trump-fined-5000-post-disparaging-court-clerk-new-york-case-filing-2023-10-20/

Trump knew it was still up and hoped someone would rid him of this troublesome priest, as an example for anyone opposing him.

Trump will always push the boundaries of any restrictions on his crimes. In his mind he's king....except for Putin.

onenote

(46,136 posts)
21. Different case.
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 05:31 PM
Oct 2023

Your post is about the NY fraud case.
The OP is about the federal election tampering case in DC

bucolic_frolic

(55,091 posts)
18. Trump's been given license to show his true colors this weekend
Sat Oct 21, 2023, 01:19 PM
Oct 2023

It's basically a sting operation

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
26. She did this to avoid a trial delay....
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 10:56 AM
Oct 2023

This gives the appeals court a chance to reject the appeal without having to issue a broader stay which may have impacted the trial date, which is tinys goal.

In reality, if he does something blatant, she can still take action based on the original pretrial release conditions. She can find him in contempt and jail him. She has very broad latitude, even without a specific order.

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
27. Seems every piece of paper filed is a 2-week delay.
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 11:20 AM
Oct 2023

"Well, ain't this place a geographical oddity. Two weeks from everywhere!"

Every day the orange one walks free is one day closer to a possible fascist takeover.

marble falls

(71,893 posts)
28. When he promised informally to refrain from making inflamitory statements, she knew ...
Sun Oct 22, 2023, 07:51 PM
Oct 2023

he was lying. But now he can't say he wasn't treated as 'innocent before being found guilty'.

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