Trump Says He'll Ban Immigrants Who 'Don't Like Our Religion'
Source: rolling stone
Not-So-Free Speech
The former president vowed to subject immigrants to "ideological screening" before allowing them into the United States
October 23, 2023
Donald Trump has long been painting a picture of what hell do to the United States should he win back the White House next November. His plans include everything from pulling America out of NATO, as Rolling Stone reported on Monday, to a sweeping, multi-faceted crackdown on immigration which he elaborated on during a campaign speech in New Hampshire.
I will implement strong ideological screening of all immigrants, the former president vowed. If you hate America, if you want to abolish Israel, if you dont like our religion (which a lot of them dont), if you sympathize with jihadists, then we dont want you in our country and you are not getting in.
The First Amendment is widely interpreted to ensure the separation of church and state, and screening immigrants over their religious beliefs would appear to stand in pretty clear violation of the nations founding principles. Its of little concern to Trump, who has made abundantly clear that his first term in office was only a warm-up for the anti-immigrant measures hes ready to implement if hes reelected. Rolling Stone reported in May that Trump is also planning on expanding the Muslim ban he instituted during his first term in office. ........................
Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-ban-immigrants-religion-campaign-speech-1234860524/
Trump is stirring up more hate --each time he opens his trap!!
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DERRY, NEW HAMPSHIRE - OCTOBER 23: Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump points during a campaign event on October 23, 2023 in Derry, New Hampshire. Trump officially filed for the first-in-the-nation primary on Monday at the New Hampshire State House. (Photo by Scott Eisen/Getty Images)
Donald Trump points during a campaign event on Oct. 23, 2023 in Derry, New Hampshire. Scott Eisen/Getty Images
TexasDem69
(2,317 posts)You can practice any religion or no religion at all.
anciano
(2,256 posts)Rhiannon12866
(255,513 posts)All he cares about is himself.
TexasDem69
(2,317 posts)He believes in himself, and doing whatever is necessary to improve his own wellbeing. Pretty much the exact opposite of someone who should be running any country.
Lionel Mandrake
(4,209 posts)Like other sociopaths, Trump has no empathy and no conscience. His photo-op with a bible in front of a church was obviously phony.
Rhiannon12866
(255,513 posts)Not to mention that he had peaceful protesters and church staff gassed to clear the area for his photo-up. And then there was George H.W. Bush's funeral. Previous presidents and First Ladies were sitting and talking quietly - then TFG showed up and wandered all over the place, had no idea how to behave on a solemn occasion in a church.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)Atheists are neither as stupid nor as immoral as this scumbag.
He was raised in the christian religion.
He got married with ministers officiating.
He still discusses how he adheres to the teachings of a specific christian minister (Norman Vincent Peale).
He still identifies with the christian religion.
He acts like way too many of them tend to do.
He's in the christian camp, no matter how much you want him to be an atheist because it's so much easier to attribute immorality only to them than to accept that christians can be bad people, too.
stuck in the middle
(821 posts)
tfg has fooled you with his lies.
DBoon
(24,982 posts)The poor and dispossessed will not be allowed in.
lastlib
(28,258 posts)It's ALL about him, and there is no "Love thy neighbor" in it, except to the extent that HE is the neighbor.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)In the christian religion, either. Not to anyone who's paid attention to their history at all.
Or do you think the Holocaust happened in a vacuum?
So why be surprised when a christian is hateful? It happens. Try not being one, and you'll quickly learn how fast and how many of them can become hateful...and downright violent about it.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,507 posts)And, no one said Slobby was an atheist.
getagrip_already
(17,802 posts)To not believe in God. Atheists have no protection under his constitution.
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seabiscuit5920
(28 posts)This rule would not have let in many of the founding fathers who were mainly Deists into the country.
bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)Enter stage left
(4,560 posts)that's his religion.
MF'ing grifter!
Diamond_Dog
(40,569 posts)America isnt a theocracy.
What does the Asshole know about religion, anyway.
rurallib
(64,688 posts)and that's all he cares about.
Moostache
(11,171 posts)The weak-mindedness of Trumpers is astounding to me, almost as astounding as the total lack of spine from the monied-interests in the GOP tent. Those cowards could smash Trump's nuts in a vise and run him completely out of public life if they simply gave the word...sad truth? They are PROFITTING from Trump, so they abide the nonsense and the control over the sheeple in the flock is simply added gravy for the goose.
I still maintain that the second I find out someone is a Trumper I lose 90% of the respect I would give them. I remain cordial, if totally non-engaged, with them...but inside my mind is screaming "WTF is WRONG with you???"
Rebl2
(17,738 posts)He doesnt believe in religion.
tanyev
(49,284 posts)
LastDemocratInSC
(4,242 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,605 posts)Although the real deity Baal didn't seem like such a bad guy...god of life and fertility and all that.
He -it- got a bad rap later.
stuck in the middle
(821 posts)Yavin4
(37,182 posts)He should be shopping for min. security prisons. What size jump suit to wear. Setting up his commissary account. You know things like that.
ificandream
(11,837 posts)I mean how many matchlight dumb things does the Orange Elephant need to say to his lugnuts?
LymphocyteLover
(9,842 posts)LastDemocratInSC
(4,242 posts)And half of that half has profoundly low intelligence.
That doesn't mean that they all live dysfunctional or meaningless lives but it does mean that a lot of our fellow citizens are poorly equipped to make the kinds of decisions that are important at election time.
exboyfil
(18,359 posts)Ready to vote for him if he is the GOP nominee (fewer in the primaries). We are talking about individuals who have PhD and Masters degrees in engineering, doctors, nurses, teachers, and scientists. It is almost a cult in North Dakota (my in laws get criticized for not being Republicans by their siblings) and nearly as much a cult in Iowa (I don't know how it got so bad so fast here). I won't even talk about West Virginia where my family is from (I went back in 2016 for my grandma's funeral and it was yards full of Trump signs).
Party over country. He just needs about 40% of the GOP to get the nomination (unlike the Democrats who coalesced around Biden in 2020, I don't see all the competing candidates doing the same for the GOP). We get to the election and it is a coin flip even if Trump has already been convicted (which is unlikely given it only takes one juror for a mistrial and he has several judges in his pocket).
It is like Huey Long writ large. Christo- and corporate fascism.
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LymphocyteLover
(9,842 posts)the fact that it's blatantly unconstitutional won't bother Republicans, I suppose
Stuart G
(38,726 posts).........My grandparents were not subject to .... "Ideological Screening" ...when they entered the U.S.A.
Trump may have cost him an election when this gets around. Lots of us have grandparents, relatives, and friends
who entered the United States when all that was required was a desire to get in to the United States and simple
identification.
Skittles
(171,702 posts)yup
LiberalFighter
(53,544 posts)BigmanPigman
(55,137 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,507 posts)I learned multiplication tables and grammar, and still remember many of the songs.
I'd like to torture him with Prez Obama speeches and accolades on a loop, including the press dinner joke at his expense, and the shot of his face getting redder and redder. Wonder what deep thoughts he was having? Hm.
BigmanPigman
(55,137 posts)When I became a teacher and they loved it! I wished all of my lessons were with School House Rock. My students would have retained more info.
mahina
(20,645 posts)SCantiGOP
(14,719 posts)There goes the last flimsy thread that held MAGA to the Founding Fathers and the principles defined this country.
The Democrats are the liberals, but they are also the the party that wants to conserve the secular democratic and egalitarian foundation of this country.
tavernier
(14,443 posts)Which one does he consider as our religion?
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)is a made up name by a little drumph man that has no meaning what so ever ! Americans where great before the fat blimp of Florida started his sales pitch in '15 ! He's just a high dollar pitch man that got his fake skin caught ! Love it every day watching him scream because he can't do a god damn thing ! revenge is hell donny ! One good thing , donny is to stupid to read !
OAITW r.2.0
(32,133 posts)Deuxcents
(26,912 posts)He is a wanna be dictator. I just wish hed stfu and go away.
Silent Type
(12,412 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,619 posts)I am one of them.
SWBTATTReg
(26,257 posts)JoseBalow
(9,486 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,507 posts)Thanks for that.
stuck in the middle
(821 posts)Silver Gaia
(5,361 posts)Where's his trademark too long red tie? Weird.
ShazzieB
(22,582 posts)Like when all the red ones are at the cleaners, having the ketchup stains removed.
stuck in the middle
(821 posts)Stuart G
(38,726 posts)C Moon
(13,642 posts)Old Crank
(7,073 posts)Our reiligion is grabbing money and pussy while pushing racism.
DFW
(60,180 posts)When queried as to what their religion is, if they proudly proclaim their religion to be our religion, they will be welcomed with open arms.
Right?
What? Why not?
BlueMTexpat
(15,689 posts)his religion? Greed, IMO!
Eff him and his effing supporters forever!
ShazzieB
(22,582 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 24, 2023, 08:24 AM - Edit history (1)
Nobody belongs to his religion except him. He's the founder and sole member of the Church of Donald J. Trump.
bucolic_frolic
(55,129 posts)Thumbscrew? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pilliwinks
SledDriver
(2,122 posts)Talk about pandering...

Novara
(6,115 posts)America doesn't have a religion. He doesn't have a religion. This is total desperate bullshit pandering to the religious and the ignorant to score points.
The hypocrisy IS the point.
mwb970
(12,150 posts)Jrose
(1,532 posts)...taking those whose religions he declares invalid to special camps?!
Irish_Dem
(81,242 posts)And burn down the US and get all your friends sent to prison?
MiHale
(13,032 posts)The leader of your fantastic religion got himself captured, tortured and killed by his enemies.
Doesnt that make him a loser in your definition of people?
Kinda like all the shit you spread about Mr. McCain.
Runningdawg
(4,664 posts)When I was born in April of 1960, my uncle (after serving his country in Korea) was in prison for HIS religion. In fact, it wasn't until 1978, that the Native American Church was recognized!! Also - name another religion where to be a member you must apply, be approved and monitored by the government to practice "lawfully".
A whole lot of people, not just MAGAts, are just fine with that treatment for AMERICAN citizens.
AkFemDem
(2,508 posts)are saying they wont back Biden in the next election... well folkx, this is what you're going to get.
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Aristus
(72,178 posts)The 'Hamberder Laws'?
moonshinegnomie
(4,016 posts)he wants to ban all who dont like our religion.
Im a pastafarian. im pretty sure far right christofascists have a problem with that.. they dont like my religion so ban em.
sakabatou
(46,142 posts)Hotler
(13,747 posts)If you don't toe the line of our warped view of the Old Testament you are the enemy. They believe in the right to rule over everything and all facets of our lives. They're our Taliban.
E. Normus
(114 posts)Folks are just gonna say what they think you want to hear. Lie detector tests. Truth serums? Who will determine results of those who "hate America"? Nonsense gibberish from a lunatic.
stuck in the middle
(821 posts)...a polygraph would work for tfg.
The_REAL_Ecumenist
(957 posts)1) The very Progenitor of our "non-existent" state religion was a brown skinned JEWISH MAN, who more than likely had kyphosis, (a hump in his back), with DARK brown to BLACK hair & eyes, STRONGLY resembling the same Gazans, Palestinians & other dark skinned Semitic people from the Fertile Crescent, would be turned away under the Apricot Ape's rubbish guidelines...
2) He has NO earthly idea that this is as UNCONSTITUTIONAL as it gets becaus it has NO grasp of What America's founding folks, (INCLUDING the Native Americans who already had a set up social principles in place that guaranteed certain protections & liberties). Did he ACTUALLY graduate middle school, let alone high school? This is CLEAR PROOF that pappy PAID others to take his tests for him...
3) His mammy & 2 OF HIS 3 WIVES were ILLEGAL, which under his nonsensical BS would AUTOMATICALLY classify his spawn as ALIEN. The latest Rent-A-Wife also practices CHAIN MIGRATION, bringing her parents & God ony knows who else here, against"his legal Theories". (as if he can even spell the words, let alone comprehending them or applying them in real life).
4) There's something before the 2nd Ammendment called the FIRST AMMENDMENT that calls for the SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE that doesn't appear to have darkened the tiny door of what passes for I laughingly call "his mind", (all 3 dessicated cells). LMAO!!
BTW, does anyone believe that he wrote or even composed this nonsense?
5) Who's he kiddin'? "OUR RELIGION"? Bruh, Really? The last time you were even near a church, you held the Bible upside down. I thought God was B*ll$h!t...What happened? GTFOFH!
Proud Southern Belle
(27 posts)You don't belong in America either! You're a traitor! You're not even a REAL American. Get out of my country!
LudwigPastorius
(14,723 posts)dalton99a
(94,109 posts)SKKY
(12,801 posts)..."I hate your religion, I hate Israel, and in fact, I really hate your country. But I love me some jihad! Can I come in?"
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,782 posts)Everyone likes at least a little money and power.
Therefore I conclude he'll let all immigrants in.....
KY
Prendy
(42 posts)Trumps our religion stance is abhorrent. But, can we truly say that it is not within the purview of a nation to exclude entrance to those who hold diametrically opposed views to the nation from entering. Would you not feel more comfortable if our government were stopping neo-Nazis from coming into the country, were stopping white nationalist from coming into the country, were stopping KLK adherents from entering., etc. We should not let our open-mindedness blind us to the need for limitations on our acceptance.
twodogsbarking
(18,774 posts)prodigitalson
(3,193 posts)ificandream
(11,837 posts)bringthePaine
(1,806 posts)keroro gunsou
(2,305 posts)Lets be honest, capitalism is the one true religion in America. God is green.
ExWhoDoesntCare
(4,741 posts)A sizeable chunk of your precious preferred European immigrants, then.
Not that very many of them want to move here to begin with, and why would they? Moving here would be a step down in their standard of living.