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riversedge

(80,802 posts)
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 08:36 PM Oct 2023

Trump Says He'll Ban Immigrants Who 'Don't Like Our Religion'

Source: rolling stone




Not-So-Free Speech

The former president vowed to subject immigrants to "ideological screening" before allowing them into the United States

October 23, 2023



Donald Trump has long been painting a picture of what he’ll do to the United States should he win back the White House next November. His plans include everything from pulling America out of NATO, as Rolling Stone reported on Monday, to a sweeping, multi-faceted crackdown on immigration — which he elaborated on during a campaign speech in New Hampshire.

“I will implement strong ideological screening of all immigrants,” the former president vowed. “If you hate America, if you want to abolish Israel, if you don’t like our religion (which a lot of them don’t), if you sympathize with jihadists, then we don’t want you in our country and you are not getting in.”

The First Amendment is widely interpreted to ensure the separation of church and state, and screening immigrants over their religious beliefs would appear to stand in pretty clear violation of the nation’s founding principles. It’s of little concern to Trump, who has made abundantly clear that his first term in office was only a warm-up for the anti-immigrant measures he’s ready to implement if he’s reelected. Rolling Stone reported in May that Trump is also planning on expanding the Muslim ban he instituted during his first term in office. ........................

Read more: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/donald-trump-ban-immigrants-religion-campaign-speech-1234860524/



Trump is stirring up more hate --each time he opens his trap!!




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DERRY, NEW HAMPSHIRE - OCTOBER 23: Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump points during a campaign event on October 23, 2023 in Derry, New Hampshire. Trump officially filed for the first-in-the-nation primary on Monday at the New Hampshire State House. (Photo by Scott Eisen/Getty Images)
Donald Trump points during a campaign event on Oct. 23, 2023 in Derry, New Hampshire. Scott Eisen/Getty Images
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Trump Says He'll Ban Immigrants Who 'Don't Like Our Religion' (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2023 OP
There is no "our religion" TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #1
Exactly. anciano Oct 2023 #3
And TFG is the least "religious" living being on the planet... Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #17
Yes TexasDem69 Oct 2023 #20
Yep. Lionel Mandrake Oct 2023 #34
That was my very first thought as the prime example. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #36
He is a christian ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #67
No offense, but... stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #80
I think Trump believes in the worship of money and power DBoon Oct 2023 #32
HIS "our religion" is the one in which HE is Christ the savior..... lastlib Oct 2023 #37
There's not much love thy neighbor ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #69
WTF with that attitude? MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #70
Actually alito has out and out said you dont have a right getagrip_already Oct 2023 #56
Founding Fathers? seabiscuit5920 Oct 2023 #87
He's describing himself. Projection again. bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #2
Our religion...does he mean STEALING MONEY. LYING TO BANKS, STIFFING CONTRACTORS... Enter stage left Oct 2023 #4
Last I checked, Diamond_Dog Oct 2023 #5
he knows that religion is one of the very best ways to divide people rurallib Oct 2023 #7
He also knows that the simple minded cretins who love him cling to religion like a baby blanket. Moostache Oct 2023 #65
Not one thing Rebl2 Oct 2023 #18
There's only one religion Donald Trump truly practices. tanyev Oct 2023 #6
Baal. LastDemocratInSC Oct 2023 #23
Yup. That is one hideous false idol right there. FailureToCommunicate Oct 2023 #50
THIS (nt) stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #81
He really should be saving his energy for prison. Yavin4 Oct 2023 #8
You would think that there are enough good people out there to stop this nutcase from getting back into the Oval Office ificandream Oct 2023 #9
there are enough-- they just have to be convinced to vote LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #12
By definition half the population has below average intelligence. LastDemocratInSC Oct 2023 #24
There are a lot of who I would consider smart people in other contexts exboyfil Oct 2023 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Yavin4 Oct 2023 #10
Here we go again. Ugh. LymphocyteLover Oct 2023 #11
"Ideological Screening"...........Give Me A Break.... Stuart G Oct 2023 #13
make sure they have the correct delusions Skittles Oct 2023 #14
Just immigrants? LiberalFighter Oct 2023 #15
Someone needs to play School House Rock for him on a loop... BigmanPigman Oct 2023 #16
I grew up with those MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #72
I played them for my students BigmanPigman Oct 2023 #78
Church of Satan or greed, generally? Which is his church? mahina Oct 2023 #19
Our Religion? SCantiGOP Oct 2023 #21
Does he understand that Christianity and Judaism aren't the same religion? tavernier Oct 2023 #22
Trump is ...MUCH TOO STUPID TO KNOW THAT HE IS...."STUPID" Stuart G Oct 2023 #25
Maga - bobby202 Oct 2023 #41
An incredible stupid person with obvious emotional deficiencies. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 2023 #26
He has no understanding of our Constitution Deuxcents Oct 2023 #27
Detestable as it is, bet plenty of white wingers will love that junk. Silent Type Oct 2023 #28
What about natural born citizens that don't like their religion SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #29
He's a POS. Obviously. He is trying to ring all of our bells. F him. Really, F him. SWBTATTReg Oct 2023 #30
The bible means a lot to drumpf JoseBalow Oct 2023 #31
She's great MorbidButterflyTat Oct 2023 #73
Love it! (nt) stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #82
Why is he wearing a blue tie??? Silver Gaia Oct 2023 #33
Oh, every once in a while he shows up in a cifferent color tie. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #43
LOL Silver Gaia Oct 2023 #44
That is weird. (nt) stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #83
Donald Trump is.....Totally Nuts.. Stuart G Oct 2023 #35
Does that sound like a nazi, or what? C Moon Oct 2023 #38
Based on his beliefs Old Crank Oct 2023 #39
So, all a prospective immigrant has to declare to Trump's CBP agent is: DFW Oct 2023 #40
Just what IS BlueMTexpat Oct 2023 #42
"Our" religion, my ass. ShazzieB Oct 2023 #45
How do you get people to confess their beliefs? bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #46
What religion is Donald Trump? SledDriver Oct 2023 #47
He's now resorting to total desperate bullshit pandering Novara Oct 2023 #48
Despicable. mwb970 Oct 2023 #49
Is DjT hoping that his loyal donors will help him build a big Trump Train... Jrose Oct 2023 #51
What religion is it where you lie, cheat, steal, sexually assault, commit treason? Irish_Dem Oct 2023 #52
Hey trump, you're the genius...riddle me this... MiHale Oct 2023 #53
Immigrants? Remember what his hero Jackson did to the Natives. Htiler was even impressed. Runningdawg Oct 2023 #54
Funny, and Muslim-American groups AkFemDem Oct 2023 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Emile Oct 2023 #57
What is Trump going to call his version of the Nuremberg Laws? Aristus Oct 2023 #58
i agree. ban all the far right christians moonshinegnomie Oct 2023 #59
Fake tanned Christofacist says what? sakabatou Oct 2023 #60
That's a threat by the christian right (dominionist) delivered to us by the orange one. Hotler Oct 2023 #62
Why lie? E. Normus Oct 2023 #63
I don't think... stuck in the middle Oct 2023 #84
Who's going to be the first to tell him that according to the nonsense he spouted: The_REAL_Ecumenist Oct 2023 #64
Hey, Trump! Proud Southern Belle Oct 2023 #66
Trump needs to start attending the Church of Shut the Fuck Up. LudwigPastorius Oct 2023 #68
Keep talking, asshole dalton99a Oct 2023 #71
Because that's what EVERY immigrant says when they come into the States... SKKY Oct 2023 #74
Trump's religion is money and power. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2023 #75
Let's check ourselves Prendy Oct 2023 #76
He just needs a little mustache under his nose. twodogsbarking Oct 2023 #77
bigotry in 3rd grader english....classic tfg prodigitalson Oct 2023 #79
Somebody should remind the Orange Doofus his family has immigrants in their lineage. ificandream Oct 2023 #85
that fake refuKKKchicken has no religion🤨 bringthePaine Oct 2023 #86
Who doesn't like money keroro gunsou Oct 2023 #88
That would eliminate ExWhoDoesntCare Oct 2023 #89

Rhiannon12866

(255,513 posts)
17. And TFG is the least "religious" living being on the planet...
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 09:49 PM
Oct 2023

All he cares about is himself.

 

TexasDem69

(2,317 posts)
20. Yes
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 10:00 PM
Oct 2023

He believes in himself, and doing whatever is necessary to improve his own wellbeing. Pretty much the exact opposite of someone who should be running any country.

Lionel Mandrake

(4,209 posts)
34. Yep.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 12:11 AM
Oct 2023

Like other sociopaths, Trump has no empathy and no conscience. His photo-op with a bible in front of a church was obviously phony.

Rhiannon12866

(255,513 posts)
36. That was my very first thought as the prime example.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 12:16 AM
Oct 2023

Not to mention that he had peaceful protesters and church staff gassed to clear the area for his photo-up. And then there was George H.W. Bush's funeral. Previous presidents and First Ladies were sitting and talking quietly - then TFG showed up and wandered all over the place, had no idea how to behave on a solemn occasion in a church.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
67. He is a christian
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 01:17 PM
Oct 2023

Atheists are neither as stupid nor as immoral as this scumbag.

He was raised in the christian religion.

He got married with ministers officiating.

He still discusses how he adheres to the teachings of a specific christian minister (Norman Vincent Peale).

He still identifies with the christian religion.

He acts like way too many of them tend to do.

He's in the christian camp, no matter how much you want him to be an atheist because it's so much easier to attribute immorality only to them than to accept that christians can be bad people, too.

DBoon

(24,982 posts)
32. I think Trump believes in the worship of money and power
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 11:21 PM
Oct 2023

The poor and dispossessed will not be allowed in.

lastlib

(28,258 posts)
37. HIS "our religion" is the one in which HE is Christ the savior.....
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 12:31 AM
Oct 2023

It's ALL about him, and there is no "Love thy neighbor" in it, except to the extent that HE is the neighbor.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
69. There's not much love thy neighbor
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 01:29 PM
Oct 2023

In the christian religion, either. Not to anyone who's paid attention to their history at all.

Or do you think the Holocaust happened in a vacuum?

So why be surprised when a christian is hateful? It happens. Try not being one, and you'll quickly learn how fast and how many of them can become hateful...and downright violent about it.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
56. Actually alito has out and out said you dont have a right
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:18 AM
Oct 2023

To not believe in God. Atheists have no protection under his constitution.

I

seabiscuit5920

(28 posts)
87. Founding Fathers?
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:21 AM
Oct 2023

This rule would not have let in many of the founding fathers who were mainly Deists into the country.

Enter stage left

(4,560 posts)
4. Our religion...does he mean STEALING MONEY. LYING TO BANKS, STIFFING CONTRACTORS...
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 08:44 PM
Oct 2023

that's his religion.

MF'ing grifter!

Diamond_Dog

(40,569 posts)
5. Last I checked,
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 08:45 PM
Oct 2023

America isn’t a theocracy.

What does the Asshole know about religion, anyway.

rurallib

(64,688 posts)
7. he knows that religion is one of the very best ways to divide people
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 08:51 PM
Oct 2023

and that's all he cares about.

Moostache

(11,171 posts)
65. He also knows that the simple minded cretins who love him cling to religion like a baby blanket.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 11:13 AM
Oct 2023

The weak-mindedness of Trumpers is astounding to me, almost as astounding as the total lack of spine from the monied-interests in the GOP tent. Those cowards could smash Trump's nuts in a vise and run him completely out of public life if they simply gave the word...sad truth? They are PROFITTING from Trump, so they abide the nonsense and the control over the sheeple in the flock is simply added gravy for the goose.

I still maintain that the second I find out someone is a Trumper I lose 90% of the respect I would give them. I remain cordial, if totally non-engaged, with them...but inside my mind is screaming "WTF is WRONG with you???"

FailureToCommunicate

(14,605 posts)
50. Yup. That is one hideous false idol right there.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 07:52 AM
Oct 2023

Although the real deity Baal didn't seem like such a bad guy...god of life and fertility and all that.

He -it- got a bad rap later.

 

Yavin4

(37,182 posts)
8. He really should be saving his energy for prison.
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 08:51 PM
Oct 2023

He should be shopping for min. security prisons. What size jump suit to wear. Setting up his commissary account. You know things like that.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
9. You would think that there are enough good people out there to stop this nutcase from getting back into the Oval Office
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 08:52 PM
Oct 2023

I mean how many matchlight dumb things does the Orange Elephant need to say to his lugnuts?

LastDemocratInSC

(4,242 posts)
24. By definition half the population has below average intelligence.
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 10:30 PM
Oct 2023

And half of that half has profoundly low intelligence.

That doesn't mean that they all live dysfunctional or meaningless lives but it does mean that a lot of our fellow citizens are poorly equipped to make the kinds of decisions that are important at election time.

exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
61. There are a lot of who I would consider smart people in other contexts
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:04 AM
Oct 2023

Ready to vote for him if he is the GOP nominee (fewer in the primaries). We are talking about individuals who have PhD and Masters degrees in engineering, doctors, nurses, teachers, and scientists. It is almost a cult in North Dakota (my in laws get criticized for not being Republicans by their siblings) and nearly as much a cult in Iowa (I don't know how it got so bad so fast here). I won't even talk about West Virginia where my family is from (I went back in 2016 for my grandma's funeral and it was yards full of Trump signs).

Party over country. He just needs about 40% of the GOP to get the nomination (unlike the Democrats who coalesced around Biden in 2020, I don't see all the competing candidates doing the same for the GOP). We get to the election and it is a coin flip even if Trump has already been convicted (which is unlikely given it only takes one juror for a mistrial and he has several judges in his pocket).

It is like Huey Long writ large. Christo- and corporate fascism.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

LymphocyteLover

(9,842 posts)
11. Here we go again. Ugh.
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 08:54 PM
Oct 2023

the fact that it's blatantly unconstitutional won't bother Republicans, I suppose

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
13. "Ideological Screening"...........Give Me A Break....
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 09:06 PM
Oct 2023

.........My grandparents were not subject to .... "Ideological Screening" ...when they entered the U.S.A.

Trump may have cost him an election when this gets around. Lots of us have grandparents, relatives, and friends
who entered the United States when all that was required was a desire to get in to the United States and simple
identification.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,507 posts)
72. I grew up with those
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 01:55 PM
Oct 2023

I learned multiplication tables and grammar, and still remember many of the songs.

I'd like to torture him with Prez Obama speeches and accolades on a loop, including the press dinner joke at his expense, and the shot of his face getting redder and redder. Wonder what deep thoughts he was having? Hm.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
78. I played them for my students
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 04:51 PM
Oct 2023

When I became a teacher and they loved it! I wished all of my lessons were with School House Rock. My students would have retained more info.

SCantiGOP

(14,719 posts)
21. Our Religion?
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 10:05 PM
Oct 2023

There goes the last flimsy thread that held MAGA to the Founding Fathers and the principles defined this country.

The Democrats are the liberals, but they are also the the party that wants to conserve the secular democratic and egalitarian foundation of this country.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
22. Does he understand that Christianity and Judaism aren't the same religion?
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 10:07 PM
Oct 2023

Which one does he consider as “our” religion?

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
25. Trump is ...MUCH TOO STUPID TO KNOW THAT HE IS...."STUPID"
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 10:35 PM
Oct 2023
Thank You for Posting This One.. .riversedge..!!
 

bobby202

(91 posts)
41. Maga -
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 04:13 AM
Oct 2023

is a made up name by a little drumph man that has no meaning what so ever ! Americans where great before the fat blimp of Florida started his sales pitch in '15 ! He's just a high dollar pitch man that got his fake skin caught ! Love it every day watching him scream because he can't do a god damn thing ! revenge is hell donny ! One good thing , donny is to stupid to read !

Deuxcents

(26,912 posts)
27. He has no understanding of our Constitution
Mon Oct 23, 2023, 10:50 PM
Oct 2023

He is a wanna be dictator. I just wish he’d stfu and go away.

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
43. Oh, every once in a while he shows up in a cifferent color tie.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 07:16 AM
Oct 2023

Like when all the red ones are at the cleaners, having the ketchup stains removed.

DFW

(60,180 posts)
40. So, all a prospective immigrant has to declare to Trump's CBP agent is:
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 03:51 AM
Oct 2023

When queried as to what their religion is, if they proudly proclaim their religion to be “our religion,” they will be welcomed with open arms.

Right?

What? Why not?

ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
45. "Our" religion, my ass.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 07:23 AM
Oct 2023

Last edited Tue Oct 24, 2023, 08:24 AM - Edit history (1)

Nobody belongs to his religion except him. He's the founder and sole member of the Church of Donald J. Trump.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
48. He's now resorting to total desperate bullshit pandering
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 07:45 AM
Oct 2023

America doesn't have a religion. He doesn't have a religion. This is total desperate bullshit pandering to the religious and the ignorant to score points.

The hypocrisy IS the point.

Jrose

(1,532 posts)
51. Is DjT hoping that his loyal donors will help him build a big Trump Train...
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 08:02 AM
Oct 2023

...taking those whose religions he declares invalid to special camps?!

Irish_Dem

(81,242 posts)
52. What religion is it where you lie, cheat, steal, sexually assault, commit treason?
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 08:10 AM
Oct 2023

And burn down the US and get all your friends sent to prison?

MiHale

(13,032 posts)
53. Hey trump, you're the genius...riddle me this...
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 08:25 AM
Oct 2023

The leader of your fantastic religion got himself captured, tortured and killed by his enemies.
Doesn’t that make him a “loser” in your definition of people?
Kinda like all the shit you spread about Mr. McCain.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
54. Immigrants? Remember what his hero Jackson did to the Natives. Htiler was even impressed.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 08:43 AM
Oct 2023

When I was born in April of 1960, my uncle (after serving his country in Korea) was in prison for HIS religion. In fact, it wasn't until 1978, that the Native American Church was recognized!! Also - name another religion where to be a member you must apply, be approved and monitored by the government to practice "lawfully".
A whole lot of people, not just MAGAts, are just fine with that treatment for AMERICAN citizens.

 

AkFemDem

(2,508 posts)
55. Funny, and Muslim-American groups
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:06 AM
Oct 2023

are saying they wont back Biden in the next election... well folkx, this is what you're going to get.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

moonshinegnomie

(4,016 posts)
59. i agree. ban all the far right christians
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:38 AM
Oct 2023

he wants to ban all who dont like our religion.

Im a pastafarian. im pretty sure far right christofascists have a problem with that.. they dont like my religion so ban em.

Hotler

(13,747 posts)
62. That's a threat by the christian right (dominionist) delivered to us by the orange one.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:13 AM
Oct 2023

If you don't toe the line of our warped view of the Old Testament you are the enemy. They believe in the right to rule over everything and all facets of our lives. They're our Taliban.

E. Normus

(114 posts)
63. Why lie?
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:26 AM
Oct 2023

Folks are just gonna say what they think you want to hear. Lie detector tests. Truth serums? Who will determine results of those who "hate America"? Nonsense gibberish from a lunatic.

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(957 posts)
64. Who's going to be the first to tell him that according to the nonsense he spouted:
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 10:36 AM
Oct 2023

1) The very Progenitor of our "non-existent" state religion was a brown skinned JEWISH MAN, who more than likely had kyphosis, (a hump in his back), with DARK brown to BLACK hair & eyes, STRONGLY resembling the same Gazans, Palestinians & other dark skinned Semitic people from the Fertile Crescent, would be turned away under the Apricot Ape's rubbish guidelines...

2) He has NO earthly idea that this is as UNCONSTITUTIONAL as it gets becaus it has NO grasp of What America's founding folks, (INCLUDING the Native Americans who already had a set up social principles in place that guaranteed certain protections & liberties). Did he ACTUALLY graduate middle school, let alone high school? This is CLEAR PROOF that pappy PAID others to take his tests for him...

3) His mammy & 2 OF HIS 3 WIVES were ILLEGAL, which under his nonsensical BS would AUTOMATICALLY classify his spawn as ALIEN. The latest Rent-A-Wife also practices CHAIN MIGRATION, bringing her parents & God ony knows who else here, against"his legal Theories". (as if he can even spell the words, let alone comprehending them or applying them in real life).

4) There's something before the 2nd Ammendment called the FIRST AMMENDMENT that calls for the SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE that doesn't appear to have darkened the tiny door of what passes for I laughingly call "his mind", (all 3 dessicated cells). LMAO!!
BTW, does anyone believe that he wrote or even composed this nonsense?

5) Who's he kiddin'? "OUR RELIGION"? Bruh, Really? The last time you were even near a church, you held the Bible upside down. I thought God was B*ll$h!t...What happened? GTFOFH!

 
66. Hey, Trump!
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 11:40 AM
Oct 2023

You don't belong in America either! You're a traitor! You're not even a REAL American. Get out of my country!

SKKY

(12,801 posts)
74. Because that's what EVERY immigrant says when they come into the States...
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 02:49 PM
Oct 2023

..."I hate your religion, I hate Israel, and in fact, I really hate your country. But I love me some jihad! Can I come in?"

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,782 posts)
75. Trump's religion is money and power.
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 03:07 PM
Oct 2023

Everyone likes at least a little money and power.

Therefore I conclude he'll let all immigrants in.....

KY

Prendy

(42 posts)
76. Let's check ourselves
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 04:34 PM
Oct 2023

Trump’s “our religion“ stance is abhorrent. But, can we truly say that it is not within the purview of a nation to exclude entrance to those who hold diametrically opposed views to the nation from entering. Would you not feel more comfortable if our government were stopping neo-Nazis from coming into the country, were stopping white nationalist from coming into the country, we’re stopping KLK adherents from entering., etc. We should not let our open-mindedness blind us to the need for limitations on our acceptance.

keroro gunsou

(2,305 posts)
88. Who doesn't like money
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:55 AM
Oct 2023

Let’s be honest, capitalism is the one true religion in America. God is green.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
89. That would eliminate
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 05:45 PM
Oct 2023

A sizeable chunk of your precious preferred European immigrants, then.

Not that very many of them want to move here to begin with, and why would they? Moving here would be a step down in their standard of living.

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