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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 06:17 PM Oct 2023

McCarthy floats partnership with Jim Jordan as assistant speaker

Source: NBC News

Amid the speaker impasse, former Speaker Kevin McCarthy is floating a plan that would reinstall him as speaker and make conservative Trump ally, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, the assistant speaker, according to three sources familiar with McCarthy’s pitch.

Asked why this idea — which lacks key details like how it would be enacted and if it could even gain enough traction to happen — was being floated now, one GOP lawmaker replied: “We’re desperate.”

While the idea might seem far-fetched and has not been pitched broadly within the GOP Conference, it is being discussed among some Republicans after Rep. Tom Emmer, the third GOP nominee for speaker, dropped his bid for the top job. A source briefed on the idea likened it to the Speaker Nancy Pelosi/Assistant Speaker Katherine Clark arrangement that the Democrats had.

“Kevin speaker, Jordan assistant speaker,” the source said.


Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/live-blog/house-republicans-choose-new-speaker-nominee-live-updates-rcna121674/rcrd22879



Begging the question: what’s the difference between Assistant Speaker and Majority Leader?
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McCarthy floats partnership with Jim Jordan as assistant speaker (Original Post) brooklynite Oct 2023 OP
What do two assholes provide other than twice as much shit? n/t rzemanfl Oct 2023 #1
Answer political cover brooklynite Oct 2023 #3
Thank you. WTF is an Assistant Speaker though? rzemanfl Oct 2023 #10
third in line EmmaLee E Oct 2023 #30
What you wrote may be a good bumper sticker, with Kevin's face on one side and Gym on the other. Escurumbele Oct 2023 #20
no way would I disgrace my car !!! bobby202 Oct 2023 #32
They provide 1/2 of a soul, each. They sold their other halves. 3Hotdogs Oct 2023 #24
Hmmm, I don't know.... The Unmitigated Gall Oct 2023 #2
The loony 8 don't want McCarthy and got rid of him in the first place BumRushDaShow Oct 2023 #4
"Gymsuit!" Rhiannon12866 Oct 2023 #15
I was going to say the crazy 8's will never go for it underpants Oct 2023 #26
Apprentices. Big sillies, only The Donald gets passes. czarjak Oct 2023 #5
oh yeah, that will work real well Javaman Oct 2023 #6
A do NOTHING 118th Congress,.... magicarpet Oct 2023 #25
Those two turds might float in Dump's gold toilet for a brief time... Blue Owl Oct 2023 #7
Called it! McCarthy coming back! maxsolomon Oct 2023 #8
Reminds me of Thelma and Louise Marthe48 Oct 2023 #9
Unforgettable FakeNoose Oct 2023 #13
Abbott and Costello? BOSSHOG Oct 2023 #11
there is no azureblue Oct 2023 #12
Not Even Sure This Would Be Legal... GB_RN Oct 2023 #14
Like Dwight Schrute, Jim Jordan may *think* he'll be Assistant Speaker, but... LudwigPastorius Oct 2023 #16
Ha! I was just about to post something like that underpants Oct 2023 #27
Rename it assistant sphincter and you're at least more accurate Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2023 #17
15Kev & Gymbo bucolic_frolic Oct 2023 #18
McCarthy has no dignity, no scruples, no morals. Now he wants to join with one of the people who kicked him in the butt. Escurumbele Oct 2023 #19
That worked so well for the Roman Republic. gordianot Oct 2023 #21
In that scenario, what happens... DivByZero Oct 2023 #22
This implies to me that McCarthy was working in the background to undercut JohnSJ Oct 2023 #23
Yes it does. underpants Oct 2023 #28
Speaker is 2nd in line to the presidency EmmaLee E Oct 2023 #29
Figures: It would take 2 GOP asswipes Resistance1 Oct 2023 #31
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
3. Answer political cover
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 06:26 PM
Oct 2023

MAGA members vote for McCarthy because they also get Jordan. Establishment member vote for McCarthy because he’s not Jordan.

3Hotdogs

(15,145 posts)
24. They provide 1/2 of a soul, each. They sold their other halves.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 10:17 AM
Oct 2023

The rest is due as payment, at a later date, to be determined.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,710 posts)
2. Hmmm, I don't know....
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 06:22 PM
Oct 2023

I’ll have to consult the Constitution on the “assistant speaker” office. You know, strict constructionist and all…

All snark directed at Gym n’ Kev

BumRushDaShow

(167,122 posts)
4. The loony 8 don't want McCarthy and got rid of him in the first place
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 06:27 PM
Oct 2023

and a pile of "moderates" including those who were threatened, don't want Gymsuit anywhere near that position. So this is all DOA.

ETA - I switched over to CSPAN and the chyron said that they would be back at 8 pm EDT to try voting on another candidate.

Rhiannon12866

(252,158 posts)
15. "Gymsuit!"
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:40 PM
Oct 2023

Perfect! And while I'd certainly prefer a non-election denier (it's gotten that desperate), I'm just enormously relieved it's not going to be "Gymsuit!"

underpants

(195,552 posts)
26. I was going to say the crazy 8's will never go for it
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:10 AM
Oct 2023

McCarthy is establishment and as you said the other members who have 1/2 a brain don’t want Jordan anywhere near that power.

magicarpet

(18,464 posts)
25. A do NOTHING 118th Congress,....
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:00 AM
Oct 2023

With a do NOTHING GOP majority,...

That only seeks to create mayhem and chaos to destroy American Democracy and swap it for a ruthless brand of Fascism.

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
11. Abbott and Costello?
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:09 PM
Oct 2023

Laurel and Hardy?

McCarthy and Jordan?

Hitler and Mussolini?

Oh if the fate of the planet did not depend on it.

azureblue

(2,697 posts)
12. there is no
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:13 PM
Oct 2023

official position of assistant speaker. That would require a major rules change that the Democrats would not vote for. . Once again, Kevin is BS'ing..

Wait a second - do you really think Jim will play second fiddle to Kevin? Jim will say, "me first, Kevin second."

GB_RN

(3,531 posts)
14. Not Even Sure This Would Be Legal...
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:33 PM
Oct 2023

The Constitution provides for the Speaker, but there’s not even one word on (much less the two required to create) Assistant Speaker.

Now, on a personal note, having a designated Speaker Pro Tempore is one thing, but an actual, active position of “Assistant Speaker of the House”? Yeah, no (see above). But especially, “hell fucking no”, if the person under consideration is the Ohio State Wrestler Molester Protector.

LudwigPastorius

(14,377 posts)
16. Like Dwight Schrute, Jim Jordan may *think* he'll be Assistant Speaker, but...
Tue Oct 24, 2023, 09:48 PM
Oct 2023

in reality he'd be Assistant to the Speaker.

underpants

(195,552 posts)
27. Ha! I was just about to post something like that
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:13 AM
Oct 2023


I could see the press conference
Kevin - well I’m speaker again
Jordan - and I’m Assistant Speaker
Kevin - assistant TO the Speaker

Escurumbele

(4,045 posts)
19. McCarthy has no dignity, no scruples, no morals. Now he wants to join with one of the people who kicked him in the butt.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 05:26 AM
Oct 2023

How can anyone want to vote for any of these thugs? These are not normal people, there are many things very wrong with them.

DivByZero

(49 posts)
22. In that scenario, what happens...
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 07:43 AM
Oct 2023

…when McCarthy resigns or is being ousted again, is Jordan then the speaker by default? Sneaky!

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
23. This implies to me that McCarthy was working in the background to undercut
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 08:45 AM
Oct 2023

The other speaker designate speakers, which is why a significant number voted for McCarthy

underpants

(195,552 posts)
28. Yes it does.
Wed Oct 25, 2023, 11:16 AM
Oct 2023

I read - what was that last week? - that McCarthy was encouraging either Scalise or Jordan to go for another vote. Surely going to fail again. I wasn’t the only one here who saw it as Kevin messing with the candidate and setting him up to be embarrassed.

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