2 dead, 18 injured in Ybor shooting during Halloween celebrations

[brooklynite]

Source: WFLA Tampa

TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) — At least two people are dead after a shooting right in the heart of Ybor City’s nightlife scene, police said.

The Tampa Police Department said the shooting took place at about 3 a.m. Sunday on the 1600 block of East 7th Avenue.

‘Friends’ star Matthew Perry dead at 54: reports
Chief Lee Bercaw said it began as a street fight between two groups of people.

“Between these two groups, we had hundreds of innocent people involved that were in the way,” the chief said.


Read more: https://www.wfla.com/news/hillsborough-county/2-dead-multiple-injured-in-ybor-shooting/

[Lovie777]

1. Night house parties in Los Angeles are very rare now......................

nightclubs here seem to be fairly safe to date.

Gun violence is up across the USA.

[aggiesal]

2. I'm sorry that a 14 year old boy got killed & ...

I feel for the father, but why was a 14 year old out on the streets are 3am.?

Far be it for me to question a dead 14 year old's where abouts, but it was the first question that popped into my mind.

[AllyCat]

4. Really?

Lots of kids/teens are out and about at all kinds of unusual hours for lots of reasons.

[aggiesal]

5. 3am. really? ...

A 14 year old (freshman) has no business being out at 3am. unless they're with a parent or a parent trusted adult.
At 14, if I came home after 10pm. my a$$ was grass.
I was allowed to attend HS football & basketball games which usually started at 7pm and end around 8:30-9pm. Then allowed to get a bite to eat with friends afterwards. Homecoming dances allowed for a little leeway but nowhere near 3am.

And I certainly didn't let my 14 year old daughter out after 10pm. without permission and not without knowing where she's going.

[forgotmylogin]

6. I lived for a short period in Clearwater, and went to clubs in Ybor...

It's a historic district with a street full of clubs and attractions; back in my day there was an actual "vampire" themed emo club, a gay club, several other various music venues and lots of sit down bars and restaurants. This area was surrounded by parking lots and I seem to remember residential streets when you got far enough away. Likely for Halloween there were some outdoor things going on. I know there was at least one haunted house that used to operate there as well.

Back then the clubs closed at around 2 am on weekends, so the locations would disgorge all their patrons kind of at the same time and it became a massive outdoor crowd meeting up, strolling around if it wasn't hot, waiting for rides home or walking back to various parking lots. It's like the exodus from a theme park.

People always dressed for the vampire bar, and I imagine this was basically Halloween weekend for every club. I wonder if the kids either were allowed to be up on a Saturday night or sneaked out to see everyone wearing costumes.

[aggiesal]

7. A 14 yo in party central Tampa @ 3am. ...

I really can't see it.

[1WorldHope]

8. It sounds like you are blaming the victim's parents.

That really is unhelpful and very unkind.

[AllyCat]

9. Yup. Sure does. Just because this family doesn't do it like

THEIR family, they are at fault. Maybe the kid sneaked out of the house. Maybe the kid was doing drugs. Maybe the kid was with older siblings or family members. Maybe the kid wanted to have fun on Halloween night. Who knows. None of business or anyone else’s.

The kid is dead because of Phucking guns. Not because he was out at 3 am.

[aggiesal]

10. I made sure I didn't blame the parents in any of my posts ...

Only asking why a 14 yo. is hanging out at party central Tampa @ 3am.

[ms liberty]

13. It was an area party with people and kids in costumes and cops all over the place

According to the article. The kids dad might have been there, since he was interviewed in the article. Ybor City is a historic district within a neighborhood. It's not off on its own, away from a community; it is in the center of the community. It's a historic district because it was the early center of Cuban culture in Tampa, so there are homes and neighborhoods just a block offf the main streets. They have events for the community. It is also a place that has nightclubs and bars.
I prefer not to blame and shame someone for being a victim of gun violence.

[aggiesal]

14. Thank you for clarifying Much appreciated. n/t

[AllyCat]

16. Thank you for this.

Love your explanation and can picture the setting based on your description. Should have been a fun night with community and family.

Turned tragic again because of our love affair with guns.

[EX500rider]

30. It was the annual Quavaween party in Ybor

Having been multiple times it is definitely not kid friendly at night, think more drunk rowdy New Orleans Mardi Gras at 3am with costumes thrown in and 21 and over crowd. The kid friendly stuff is all daytime.

(really a unoffical Quavaween these days at the city stopped sponsoring it due to losing money somehow on a event where 120,000 people would go.)

[chouchou]

28. I read your posts and couldn't find..

..any accusations against the parents what-so-ever.
It's amazing how some people extrapolate what is not there.

[former9thward]

12. What reasons are they out at 3 a.m.?

[AllyCat]

15. None of our business. We have no idea what was going on

and don’t need to know. Self-righteous pontificating on whether or not the kid was out, was it appropriate, and was he up to no good HAS NO BEARING on what happened here.

He’s dead. Because of phucking guns AGAIN.

[former9thward]

18. It is our business.

That is why society has curfew laws for people under 18. Forgot about those or did you just want to ignore it? A 14 year old has no reason to be out at that hour at a party.

[AllyCat]

19. It isn't your business just because there is a law.

See post #13. Excellent description of the type of gathering and why a 14 year old would be there at that hour.

[former9thward]

21. The writer has no idea why they were there.

They don't know anything about it and was just speculating based on the reading of an article which doesn't have any specific information. No thanks and it is our business. Ever heard the phrase "It takes a village to raise a child"? Maybe you are opposed to that also.

[ShazzieB]

24. Well.

Ever heard the phrase "It takes a village to raise a child"?

Sure. There's another phrase this reminds me of, though: "blaming the victim," or in this case, blaming the victim's parents. Not cool either way.

[AllyCat]

26. Definitely not opposed. But you are placing blame

Where it does not belong…the victim and family. Even if he had no business there, he does not deserve to be DEAD.

[AllyCat]

3. One person has now lost TWO children to guns.

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Nobody should lose ANY.

[COL Mustard]

11. Clearly too soon to take any action

Let’s just wait until the next one. Yeah, that’ll be the right time.

My heart goes out to the father who has now lost two kids to gun violence. It’s incredible that we keep accepting this.

[AllyCat]

17. So sad, isn't it?

We’ll never do anything about it.

[COL Mustard]

22. That's what the NRA wants

And they’ll continue to pay their politicians to keep it that way.

[AllyCat]

23. We have to try to stop them anyway.

[Turbineguy]

20. Shooters have extra protection in Florida

Innocent bystanders who get shot cannot sue.

[sheshe2]

25. Why is Mathew Perry mentioned in your OP.

TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) — At least two people are dead after a shooting right in the heart of Ybor City’s nightlife scene, police said.

The Tampa Police Department said the shooting took place at about 3 a.m. Sunday on the 1600 block of East 7th Avenue.

‘Friends’ star Matthew Perry dead at 54: reports
Chief Lee Bercaw said it began as a street fight between two groups of people.

“Between these two groups, we had hundreds of innocent people involved that were in the way,” the chief said.

[AllyCat]

27. Copy and paste issue. I wondered the same.

[rockfordfile]

29. Gun violence is a problem across USA.

Street fight between two groups of people at 3am. Drunks and your typical barfly shit then who knows what else.
I agree about the kid being out at 3am. Strange to have a kid out at that time.

[Eugene]

31. DeSantis proposes...

more resources to police. It's those "fringe people."

DeSantis offers to boost security after multiple people killed or wounded in Tampa shooting (Politico)

MIAMI — Gov. Ron DeSantis offered state resources to local police officers following a shooting in Tampa Saturday night that left two dead and almost 20 people wounded.

“I do think that we tend to pass the buck with some of these people and just kind of hope that they don’t do anything wrong when there’s a lot of signs,” DeSantis said Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I would be more aggressive on some of those fringe people who clearly are demonstrating signs that they’re a major danger to society.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/29/desantis-tampa-shooting-00124128