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Omaha Steve

(109,234 posts)
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 06:08 PM Nov 2023

Pillen, Iowa governor write letter to Biden criticizing long-term care facilities regulations

Source: Omaha World Herald

By Erin Bamer

LINCOLN — Nebraska Gov. Jim Pillen sent a letter signed by 14 other Republican governors to President Joe Biden on Wednesday, urging him to reconsider proposed requirements made to long-term care facilities.

According to a state press release, Pillen directed the letter in collaboration with Iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds in response to new rules the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services shared in early September.

The regulations would require nursing homes to ensure that residents receive a minimum number of nursing care hours each day. Facilities also must have a registered nurse on staff 24 hours a day, seven days a week and expand resident assessment requirements. CMS is still taking feedback on the proposal.

The proposal is billed as a step toward meeting a Biden administration pledge to ensure that America’s 1.2 million nursing home residents “get the safe, high-quality care that they deserve,” according to a statement by CMS Administrator Chiquita Brooks-LaSure.

Read more: https://omaha.com/news/state-regional/government-politics/pillen-iowa-governor-write-letter-to-biden-criticizing-long-term-care-facilities-regulations/article_19609fce-78eb-11ee-b0a5-13d134c6b3eb.html

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Pillen, Iowa governor write letter to Biden criticizing long-term care facilities regulations (Original Post) Omaha Steve Nov 2023 OP
Why? $$ to the owners. All they care about. F grandma and her 'needs.' GDMFSOB Repubes CurtEastPoint Nov 2023 #1
Many nursing homes in this country are an absolute disgrace. Lonestarblue Nov 2023 #2
I just told my daughter I never want to live in one of these old age nursing homes. slightlv Nov 2023 #6
repubs advocate return to soylent green nt msongs Nov 2023 #3
Quick Rule Of Thumb, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2023 #4
It's a quandary for sure. We do not want to go into a nursing home but are finding it difficult to manage at home now CTyankee Nov 2023 #26
In other words, the repukes criticism is they don't want regulations on healthcare facilities that will protect JohnSJ Nov 2023 #5
These nursing facilities need to be better staffed. Many only have 1 RN for entire facility. FloridaBlues Nov 2023 #7
Maybe Pillen can staff them with underage kids from the Purdue chicken factories... mpcamb Nov 2023 #22
Repugs just want seniors to die and go away. trof Nov 2023 #8
You forgot poor people. raising2moredems Nov 2023 #11
SS and Medicare-are so successful they need a National Holiday delisen Nov 2023 #24
$15,000 a month Puppyjive Nov 2023 #9
I guess we know where Farmer-Rick Nov 2023 #10
Outsourcing your old WA-03 Democrat Nov 2023 #12
Republicans on record Old Crank Nov 2023 #13
Biden needs to tell them to go fuck themselves Skittles Nov 2023 #14
My question is: WHY DON'T WE HEAR ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN RESPONSE 24/7 BComplex Nov 2023 #15
You really believe still that the traitor media ExWhoDoesntCare Nov 2023 #18
Then we have to start a rebellion of sorts and call them out on it. BComplex Nov 2023 #21
Iowa LTC facilities are among the worst Bettie Nov 2023 #16
Iowa - Care facility complaints up 45% from 2020, state data shows LightBright Nov 2023 #17
Copy of letter linked in press release Justice Nov 2023 #19
If she is up for re-election or another office this needs to be used against her. LiberalFighter Nov 2023 #20
Maybe those nitwit keroro gunsou Nov 2023 #23
What??? "...safe, high-quality care?" Grins Nov 2023 #25

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
2. Many nursing homes in this country are an absolute disgrace.
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 06:17 PM
Nov 2023

They’re often deliberately understaffed to increase profits, and it’s the patients who suffer. I’ve visited a number of nursing homes because relatives were there, and my conclusion is that I never want to be in one. Even the supposedly good ones leave a lot to be desired. Texas, especially, has some of the worst in the nation.

slightlv

(7,790 posts)
6. I just told my daughter I never want to live in one of these old age nursing homes.
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 06:54 PM
Nov 2023

They're warehouses for death, and not much more. After seeing first hand... especially how "care" has changed from the time I first visited back in the 70's and 80's to now, I'll take a bottle of any kind of narcotics over that. Further, I'll take care of my own hubster, despite his rapidly diminishing number of marbles. Thank goodness, except for a few here and there, I seem to be retaining mine, and working hard to keep it that way.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
4. Quick Rule Of Thumb, Sir
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 06:27 PM
Nov 2023

Anyone who objects to a regulation as 'a one-size-fits-all' approach is a not just dishonest, but knows it. People need just as much tending in Iowa as in New York or Tumbuctu. They may not get it, but they need it.

Anyone objecting that a regulation is both unnecessary and too costly is counting on an idiot audience. Of course the regulation directs a thing be done that will not be otherwise, because doing it would cut into profits, and business is chugging along just fine as things are now.

What anyone objecting that the regulation's cost will drive some operators to close is actually saying is that businesses only turning a profit by providing substandard service and products ought by right to continue doing so to the detriment of the public at large.

CTyankee

(68,203 posts)
26. It's a quandary for sure. We do not want to go into a nursing home but are finding it difficult to manage at home now
Thu Nov 9, 2023, 05:16 PM
Nov 2023

that we are elderly. I am exhausted from trying to care for my handicapped husband. We are both in our 80s. We want to be independent as possible in our own home. But recently he fell and cut his head open and I called 911 and got good, fairly quick service. Luckily, he was sewn up and fine and released to go home. Taking care of him at home has taken every ounce of my strength and that's not going to get any better. What I see ahead for us is grim, indeed.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
5. In other words, the repukes criticism is they don't want regulations on healthcare facilities that will protect
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 06:37 PM
Nov 2023

the heath and safety of those residents.

The republican party is the party of death squads. WAKE UP RED STATES!!!


FloridaBlues

(4,669 posts)
7. These nursing facilities need to be better staffed. Many only have 1 RN for entire facility.
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 06:59 PM
Nov 2023

Go after the owners to pay better salaries and work load.

trof

(54,274 posts)
8. Repugs just want seniors to die and go away.
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 08:06 PM
Nov 2023

We're a burden to society.
A drag on the economy.
Old and ugly.
They hate Medicare and Social Security retirement payments.
"Entitlements"
Never mind that we paid into both for most of our working lives.
We should emulate the ancient Native Americans and just crawl off into the bush and die.

HELL NO!
I'm 82 and my goal in life is to stick around long enough to see Donnie-Two-Scoops in jail. That is a hell of an incentive.

raising2moredems

(752 posts)
11. You forgot poor people.
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 11:01 PM
Nov 2023

Which is why every time I hear them proclaim to be "pro-life", I call bullshit. And it wasn't that long ago Caribou Barbie was whining about "killing granny". Guess it is okay to kill granny when it adds to the bottom line, grants pay raises, and preserves bonuses.

delisen

(7,369 posts)
24. SS and Medicare-are so successful they need a National Holiday
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 12:26 PM
Nov 2023

We certainly have the right as people to gather together and set up our own insurance plans to provide for ourselves in times of decline

Social Security and traditional Medicare have been incredibly successful and are two institutions in which we can take great pride.

Social Security has freed younger generations by providing a stream of income to elders and Medicare has not only improved the health of elders on a day to day basis but has created an increase in medical research that ultimately is benefiting people at every stage of life.

Complainers just want to divert our investment in ourselves and each other and put our dollars into their own pockets.

Puppyjive

(987 posts)
9. $15,000 a month
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 10:07 PM
Nov 2023

I think the can comply. That is what my parents were paying. They needed 24 hour care. I've learned a lot. My parents were getting their meds from a supplemental plan. When they moved in, they forced us to get their drugs thru their pharmacy. Their bill went up considerably. We found out the ceo of the facility was a board member of the pharmacy. So much corruption.

Farmer-Rick

(12,667 posts)
10. I guess we know where
Wed Nov 1, 2023, 10:32 PM
Nov 2023

Nebraska Gov. Jim Pillen and 14 other Republican govenorors get their bribes ....I mean....get their campaign contributions from.

Deregulation has always been a scam. It's all about providing the least amount of service for the highest amount of pay.

After COVID showed how vulnerable folks are in nursing homes to any rampaging illness spreading. I am never going into one.

My mother was paying $30,000 a month for assisted living in Florida. I think Florida has some of the worst nursing homes in the country.

Skittles

(171,718 posts)
14. Biden needs to tell them to go fuck themselves
Thu Nov 2, 2023, 05:40 AM
Nov 2023

the costs are ridiculously high, they just don't like stuff to eat into their profits

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
15. My question is: WHY DON'T WE HEAR ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN RESPONSE 24/7
Thu Nov 2, 2023, 08:40 AM
Nov 2023

on the mainstream media, like we hear about trump 24/7?

Until Democrats in power learn that you ALL have to be on message, THE SAME MESSAGE, 24/7, and get it all over every channel to get the point across, republicans will continue to get whatever cover for their misdeeds/coverage the media will give them, we will continue to be underrepresented in elections.

Constant repetition, well-structured talking points, and powerful figures getting themselves on cable news to REPEAT and DRIVE HOME what we're standing for will be the only way to make the change we seek. Plus we need to seed social media with meme pushers like the republicans do, and like the Koch brothers perfected in states during the tea party rebellion. In this regard, we need to be more like the enemy to win this war that they are winning. Republicans have perfected propaganda.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
18. You really believe still that the traitor media
Thu Nov 2, 2023, 09:56 AM
Nov 2023

Will give Democrats extra time if they 'speak up' or 'stay on message?'

Seriously?

The problem has never been Democrats or their message or their methods of getting information out there.

Because it doesn't matter what Democrats do or say, or how they do or say it. The media's corporate masters don't want Democrats to get any coverage at all, if they can help it. If they do get coverage, it's grudging and almost always paints Democrats in a negative light.

I don't get how blind people are so blind to something that's been reality since 1980, at least.

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
21. Then we have to start a rebellion of sorts and call them out on it.
Thu Nov 2, 2023, 04:31 PM
Nov 2023

Even the pundits on MSNBC don't call out the media on their unfair coverage.

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
16. Iowa LTC facilities are among the worst
Thu Nov 2, 2023, 08:45 AM
Nov 2023

in the country....so of course old Kim Reaper wants fewer regulations, so she can win that race to the bottom (well, for her it would be the top, in number of unnecessary deaths).

 

LightBright

(71 posts)
17. Iowa - Care facility complaints up 45% from 2020, state data shows
Thu Nov 2, 2023, 09:00 AM
Nov 2023

The Iowa Department of Inspections and Appeals, which oversees nursing homes, assisted living centers and other health care providers, fielded an average of 151 complaints per month in 2020. Through October of this year, the average number of complaints was 219 per month — an increase of 45%.

https://iowacapitaldispatch.com/2022/12/01/care-facility-complaints-up-45-from-2020-state-data-shows/

Justice

(7,261 posts)
19. Copy of letter linked in press release
Thu Nov 2, 2023, 01:03 PM
Nov 2023

https://governor.iowa.gov/press-release/2023-11-01/gov-reynolds-and-gov-pillen-lead-letter-calling-biden-reconsider-centers

Requirements don't seem unreasonable - CMS’s proposed regulations would require a minimum of 0.55 hours per resident per day (HRPD) provided by Registered Nurses (RNs) and 2.45 HRPD provided by Nurse Aides (NAs). Long-term care facilities would also be required to have an RN onsite 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

GOP states seem to be arguing for LPNs and other caregivers - whatever that means -- and for no national minimum.

GOP letter says 38 states already impose minimum staffing requirements on nursing homes, which are tailored to the unique requirements of each state. But not clear which of the 15 states whose governors signed letter have minimum staffing requirements.

keroro gunsou

(2,305 posts)
23. Maybe those nitwit
Sat Nov 4, 2023, 11:51 PM
Nov 2023

Governors need to spend a month in one of those facilities, and I mean ones that Joe and Jane Public use, not the fancy pants one that only the rich can attain. it’s been my experience that Republicans will only see the light if it directly affects them.

Grins

(9,459 posts)
25. What??? "...safe, high-quality care?"
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 06:52 PM
Nov 2023

GOP: “We can’t have that!!! We have Traditional Family Values!!!”

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