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BumRushDaShow

(170,555 posts)
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 10:30 AM Nov 2023

In very rare move, Pope dismisses conservative US bishop Strickland

Source: Reuters

November 11, 20238:11 AM EST


VATICAN CITY, Nov 11 (Reuters) - Pope Francis has dismissed Bishop Joseph E. Strickland of Tyler, Texas, one of his fiercest critics among U.S. Roman Catholic conservatives, a Vatican statement said on Saturday. It is very rare for a bishop to be relieved of his duties outright. Usually bishops in trouble with the Vatican are asked to resign before submitting a resignation, which the pope accepts.

Popes make such moves, considered drastic, when a bishop refuses a request to resign. Strickland is 65, 10 years shy of the usual retirement age for bishops. Strickland had said earlier this year that he would refuse to resign if asked. Strickland, a prolific user of social media who was named to the diocese by the late Pope Benedict in 2012, tweeted earlier this year that he rejected Pope Francis' "program undermining the Deposit of Faith".

He has been particularly critical of the pope's attempt to make the Church more welcoming to the LGBT community and attempts by Francis to give lay people more responsibility in the Church and opposed a recent synod. The dismissal followed a Vatican investigation earlier this year into the administration of the Tyler diocese, which Catholic media reports said included a review of his handling of financial affairs.

It was announced simultaneously by the Vatican and the U.S. Bishops Conference. Neither statement gave a reason. There was no immediate response from Strickland. A recording on the diocese's telephone said they were closed for the weekend.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/world/pope-francis-dismisses-conservative-us-bishop-strickland-2023-11-11/

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In very rare move, Pope dismisses conservative US bishop Strickland (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2023 OP
Good on ya, Pope Francis hlthe2b Nov 2023 #1
Somebody needs to do a little digging about this guy. I would niyad Nov 2023 #2
A good start dalton99a Nov 2023 #3
UPDATE: Vatican-ordered investigation targets Bishop Strickland of Tyler, Texas LiberalArkie Nov 2023 #4
Good Old Crank Nov 2023 #5
You don't defy the Pope's orders and emerge unscathed meow2u3 Nov 2023 #6
Sounds like they may have to change the locks. vanlassie Nov 2023 #7
What happens to fired bishops? Do they get booted out of church housing... brush Nov 2023 #8
They have to live on the money they have stolen. n/t Mr.Bill Nov 2023 #9
No really, the post doesn't say this guy was stealing money... brush Nov 2023 #10
It also says he was investigated Mr.Bill Nov 2023 #11
IIRC, they have "Retreats" way out of the public with limited communication where they house troubled priests. keopeli Nov 2023 #12
He'll now join the pool of Walmart greeters. He'll really miss the free healthcare. jaxexpat Nov 2023 #13
He is still a priest--just no longer a Bishop with his own diocese. Lots of churches riversedge Nov 2023 #15
specially at this level of office gopiscrap Nov 2023 #16
They get tossed out the door JoseBalow Nov 2023 #18
Believe it or not, ... aggiesal Nov 2023 #21
"The move comes after an investigation which is understood to have found problems with his governance of the diocese inc riversedge Nov 2023 #14
KnR Hekate Nov 2023 #17
Calling Tom Lehrer........ n/t DFW Nov 2023 #19
Great! mahina Nov 2023 #20
How many Popes can stomp on a pin-head? LastDemocratInSC Nov 2023 #22

hlthe2b

(114,149 posts)
1. Good on ya, Pope Francis
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 10:49 AM
Nov 2023

This creep was elevated by Ratzinger, of course. No surprise there.

niyad

(132,999 posts)
2. Somebody needs to do a little digging about this guy. I would
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 10:53 AM
Nov 2023

venture to guess that there are some serious skeletons in his closet.

LiberalArkie

(19,857 posts)
4. UPDATE: Vatican-ordered investigation targets Bishop Strickland of Tyler, Texas
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 11:23 AM
Nov 2023

CNA Newsroom, Jun 25, 2023 / 11:11 am



The Vatican’s Dicastery for Bishops has completed a formal investigation of Bishop Joseph E. Strickland and the Diocese of Tyler, Texas, according to multiple media reports and confirmed by EWTN News.

The inquiry, known as an apostolic visitation, marks a rare though not unprecedented intervention by Rome into a U.S. diocese and points to possible disciplinary action against Strickland, a widely popular though polarizing Texas firebrand viewed as a culture war champion by many U.S. conservatives for his staunch defense of the unborn, marriage, the traditional Latin liturgy, and Catholic orthodoxy.

The leader of the eastern Texas diocese since 2012, Strickland, 64, has faced criticism for what some see as intemperate social media posts unbecoming of a prominent U.S. prelate, including a May 12 tweet that suggested Pope Francis was “undermining the Deposit of Faith.”

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https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/254652/vatican-investigation-bishop-strickland-tyler-texas

Old Crank

(7,151 posts)
5. Good
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 11:28 AM
Nov 2023

Actively going after the man God chose shouldn't be allowed. If you believe that stuff. Seems like he was given enough rope to hang himself.

meow2u3

(25,250 posts)
6. You don't defy the Pope's orders and emerge unscathed
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 11:55 AM
Nov 2023

That's a lesson rebellious bishop Strickland had to learn the hard way. He's been trying to pass off heretical right-wing ideology as Christian doctrine and, instead of obeying the Pope, he openly defied him.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
8. What happens to fired bishops? Do they get booted out of church housing...
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 12:05 PM
Nov 2023

no pay? What about retirement, SS and all that?

Not that I'm on the side of this winger bishop, just wondering what the Church's policy is on these matters.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
10. No really, the post doesn't say this guy was stealing money...
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 12:22 PM
Nov 2023

just that he was at odds with, and disobeying the Pope.

keopeli

(3,582 posts)
12. IIRC, they have "Retreats" way out of the public with limited communication where they house troubled priests.
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 12:45 PM
Nov 2023
 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
13. He'll now join the pool of Walmart greeters. He'll really miss the free healthcare.
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 12:49 PM
Nov 2023

riversedge

(81,076 posts)
15. He is still a priest--just no longer a Bishop with his own diocese. Lots of churches
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 01:05 PM
Nov 2023

without priests these days.

gopiscrap

(24,751 posts)
16. specially at this level of office
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 01:28 PM
Nov 2023

there will be housing for him...he will receive Social Security according to what he paid into it like anyone else, almost all diocese's have a mandated retirement plan and the higher up you are the better it is. Now about saying Mass etc, that's a stickier problem. From what the article states, he has not been stripped of his ordination, so he might be able to go pollute a parish here and there as pulpit supply

aggiesal

(10,843 posts)
21. Believe it or not, ...
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 04:10 PM
Nov 2023

Clergy buy houses and take out mortgages just like the rest of us.

I knew one priest that owned investment rental properties.

riversedge

(81,076 posts)
14. "The move comes after an investigation which is understood to have found problems with his governance of the diocese inc
Sat Nov 11, 2023, 12:56 PM
Nov 2023



@ctrlamb
Pope Francis has removed Bishop Joseph Strickland from the leadership of the Diocese of Tyler, Texas.

The move comes after an investigation which is understood to have found problems with his governance of the diocese including a breakdown in relations with priests & local bishops

He’s also accused Pope Francis of undermining the deposit of faith and has questioned Francis’ legitimacy.


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Pope Francis on Saturday removed from office the bishop of Tyler, Texas, a conservative active on social media who has been a fierce critic of the pontiff and some of his priorities.”

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