The U.S. says Hamas operates within and beneath hospitals, endorsing Israel's allegations.

[brooklynite]

Source: New York Times

The United States has intelligence that shows that Hamas has been using hospitals in Gaza, including Al-Shifa, as command centers and ammunitions depots, a spokesman for the National Security Council said on Tuesday.

John Kirby, the spokesman, said that the intelligence, gathered from American-generated sources, supported Israel’s allegation that Hamas has been operating out of hospitals, which Mr. Kirby said amounted to a war crime.

Mr. Kirby declined to provide details about the U.S. intelligence, but he made clear that it goes beyond the information collected by the Israeli intelligence service. “It comes from a variety of intelligence methods — of our own, of our own,” he said, adding that the classification of the intelligence had been downgraded so that it could be shared publicly.

“I can confirm for you that we have information that Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad use some hospitals in the Gaza Strip, including Al-Shifa, and tunnels underneath them, to conceal and to support their military operations and to hold hostages,” Mr. Kirby told reporters on Air Force One as President Biden headed to San Francisco for a summit with Asia-Pacific leaders.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/11/14/world/israel-hamas-gaza-war-news/hamas-hospitals-gaza-israel?smid=url-share

[TheRickles]

1. CNN doesn't buy it, at least w/r/t one alleged hospital munitions site.

Their article has a quote by a hospital administrator that denies a military use for the basement:
"Speaking by phone to CNN on Tuesday, Mohammed Zarqout, who has responsibility for all of Gaza’s hospitals, said the basement at Al Rantisi had been used as a shelter for women and children – not to store Hamas weaponry and hold hostages – as well as being the location of the pharmacy and some of the hospital’s administrative offices before rainwater made it “impossible” to use.

The full article is at https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/14/middleeast/israel-alleges-hamas-armory-under-hospital-in-gaza-hnk-intl/index.html|

[revmclaren]

3. I trust our current intelligence agencies

a hundred times more than CNN.

This is what I think of CNN and other self serving media outlets.

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[marybourg]

5. Please point out what in the article indicates that "CNN doesn't buy it".

What I read is that a Palestinian official doesn’t buy it, but I may have missed the part where CNN agrees.

[TheRickles]

8. Yes, you are correct. It would've been more accurate for me to say that CNN gave some credence

to a Palestinian official by publishing his words. Quite often, those divergent points of view are omitted from the conversation by MSM, so I thought this was quite significant that his input was included.

[marybourg]

9. The m$m always publishes pot-stirring words. That's how they sell their product.

Nothing novel or unusual here. And no hint of credence attaches.

[TheRickles]

10. That's their MO, for sure, but that's not what this is. Here's a story from Common Dreams

that I haven't seen elsewhere: https://www.commondreams.org/news/physician-gaza-hospitals|

The most relevant quote is about a Norwegian staff physician, Dr. Mads Gilbert: "Gilbert's plea for immediate action from world leaders who are supporting and arming Israel's military came as Israeli forces surrounded al-Shifa and other hospitals in northern Gaza, claiming that Hamas is using the facilities as command centers—an assertion that hospital directors have denied.

[lapucelle]

2. I believe John Kirby. N/T

[maxsolomon]

4. This is in the NYT so it's CLEARLY LIES.

cancel your subscriptions again!

[LiberaBlueDem]

6. Clearly

The IDF surrounds the hospitals and can control who goes in or out, right?

[NickB79]

7. That's why they use tunnel networks

I mean, was that even a serious question?