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BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 07:09 AM Nov 2023

Gas prices could hit lowest Thanksgiving level in years

Source: The Hill

11/20/23 10:36 PM ET


The national average of gas prices could drop to the lowest level around Thanksgiving in years, according to new estimates.

On Monday, AAA reported that the average national price of gas was about $3.31 per gallon — nearly a 10 percent decrease from last year’s average of $3.67 per gallon during the same period. The national average for gas prices has fallen or remained flat for about 60 consecutive days, according to a AAA press release last week.

As of Monday, there are 11 states that have a below $3 a gallon average: Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Missouri, Iowa, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia and South Carolina. AAA cited a lower demand for gas coupled with lower oil prices as reason for the decline.

“Drivers this Thanksgiving can expect cheaper gas prices,” Andrew Gross, AAA spokesperson, said in a statement last week.


Read more: https://thehill.com/regulation/transportation/4320072-gas-prices-could-hit-lowest-thanksgiving-level-in-years/

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Gas prices could hit lowest Thanksgiving level in years (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2023 OP
This good piece of news will of course be moniss Nov 2023 #1
That's why I posted it BumRushDaShow Nov 2023 #2
Right you are moniss Nov 2023 #24
KCMO was 2.76 yesterday. Down over a dollar leftyladyfrommo Nov 2023 #3
I filled my tank for 3.09/9/gallon Marthe48 Nov 2023 #4
I ran into that a couple weeks ago when I filled up BumRushDaShow Nov 2023 #6
It hurt my brain lol Marthe48 Nov 2023 #7
Gas prices have also incredibly gone down here in Northeastern New York. Rhiannon12866 Nov 2023 #5
Need to keep this up. Low gas prices are ESSENTIAL at election time. oldsoftie Nov 2023 #8
Hey MEDIA! How about this LittleGirl Nov 2023 #9
Where are all the "I did that" stickers niw? Lunabell Nov 2023 #10
Sheetz (Sheetzes in Pa.) will have regular for $ 1.99 a gallon on TG Day. 11/20 - 11/27 twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #11
NYT tomorrow: Will lower prices hurt Bidens and his energy policy? MistakenLamb Nov 2023 #12
Sun coming up and setting will hurt Biden's chance of re-election. NYT twodogsbarking Nov 2023 #13
See what happens when I quit driving? SouthernDem4ever Nov 2023 #14
Yes here too. Problem is bluestarone Nov 2023 #15
$2.819 here in west central Florida. Dropping every few days. mitch96 Nov 2023 #16
About time RubyRose Nov 2023 #17
Thank you Biden IronLionZion Nov 2023 #18
The high gas prices can be traced to the oil companies cutting the supply cstanleytech Nov 2023 #19
Gas prices decreasing ... skennis1 Nov 2023 #20
Tell us how bad lowered gas prices are for Biden meow2u3 Nov 2023 #21
I did spot this BumRushDaShow Nov 2023 #23
Me likee Aviation Pro Nov 2023 #22
THIS! ...should be plastered across every media outlet everywhere. Think. Again. Nov 2023 #27
Thanks, Brandon! Novara Nov 2023 #25
I'm surprised our gas prices in KS are above $3.00 KS Toronado Nov 2023 #26
$2.99 at two stations yesterday mnhtnbb Nov 2023 #28
I filled for $2.59 today TexasBushwhacker Nov 2023 #36
There are more than 11, can add Ohio and West Virginia. This morning it was doc03 Nov 2023 #29
"I don't understand why since Russia and Saudi Arabia have been cutting production." BumRushDaShow Nov 2023 #31
Down .40 here locally in the past month... EarthFirst Nov 2023 #30
When are we going to refill our SRs? SlimJimmy Nov 2023 #32
"Teh Google" is your friend BumRushDaShow Nov 2023 #33
It's still higher than Trump TheFarseer Nov 2023 #34
Wanna know why? BumRushDaShow Nov 2023 #35
Lower gas prices kill EV adoption NickB79 Nov 2023 #37

moniss

(9,056 posts)
1. This good piece of news will of course be
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 07:38 AM
Nov 2023

largely ignored by the big media as they focus on President Biden having turned 81.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
2. That's why I posted it
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 07:53 AM
Nov 2023

We have a tendency to buy in to the "negative" when it is but a small part of the huge positive news that is out there, with many often-forgotten pockets of people finding themselves finally being supported, and in better shape.

moniss

(9,056 posts)
24. Right you are
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 02:46 PM
Nov 2023

and there are a great many major infrastructure improvements that are taking place that are going to pay off for the economy very well.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
4. I filled my tank for 3.09/9/gallon
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 08:50 AM
Nov 2023

Yesterday at Kroger. I had a .03 cent/gallon discount.

The highway sign said it was 3.15/9/gallon, but the pump was 3.09/9. I thought somebody made a mistake, but I wasn't going to ask. lol On the way home, the big sign was adjusted down, so I felt better. Much better than when the price is changing up!

There are some prices easing. Hoping to see a drop in food and housing costs.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
6. I ran into that a couple weeks ago when I filled up
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 09:26 AM
Nov 2023

The sign had a higher price but the pump was much lower. I figured it was easier for them to electronically change the pump price from the station office than to get up there and change the board numbers.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
7. It hurt my brain lol
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 09:45 AM
Nov 2023

I got a paper rect. and understood I got a break, wasn't a computer error (as I pump, I'm thinking 3.15/9 -.03 does not equal 3.06/9)

Rhiannon12866

(255,539 posts)
5. Gas prices have also incredibly gone down here in Northeastern New York.
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 09:15 AM
Nov 2023

A few weeks ago they were right around $4 a gallon, they've gone down in recent days, most are now in the $3.60s and Cumberland Farms that I passed today was at $3.58!

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
8. Need to keep this up. Low gas prices are ESSENTIAL at election time.
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 10:30 AM
Nov 2023

I paid 2.48 today in GA. But the state gas tax has also been suspended.
Out west its still ridiculous.

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
10. Where are all the "I did that" stickers niw?
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 10:57 AM
Nov 2023

Fuck you all because the President does not control gas prices!!!!

twodogsbarking

(18,785 posts)
11. Sheetz (Sheetzes in Pa.) will have regular for $ 1.99 a gallon on TG Day. 11/20 - 11/27
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 11:07 AM
Nov 2023

Last edited Tue Nov 21, 2023, 12:13 PM - Edit history (1)

bluestarone

(22,179 posts)
15. Yes here too. Problem is
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 11:46 AM
Nov 2023

It WILL surely be way up higher than ever, just around the election time. Somehow we gotta be ready to counter what the media will surely be saying.

IronLionZion

(51,269 posts)
18. Thank you Biden
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 12:30 PM
Nov 2023

Then as grocery prices come down, will they complain about wage inflation? Uppity workers getting too unionized?

The GOP plan for lowering prices will be tax cuts.

cstanleytech

(28,473 posts)
19. The high gas prices can be traced to the oil companies cutting the supply
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 12:33 PM
Nov 2023

in order to milk the average person for everything that they can get away with.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
26. I'm surprised our gas prices in KS are above $3.00
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 03:22 PM
Nov 2023

We pump lots of oil and have three petroleum refineries in the State. Currently at $3.15
Since the Koch brothers live here, they probably have a way of keeping the prices up.

mnhtnbb

(33,349 posts)
28. $2.99 at two stations yesterday
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 04:29 PM
Nov 2023

that I passed in Durham, NC on my way to mail a letter at the PO. These two particular stations service many FedEx trucks which are based at a hub nearby.

TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
36. I filled for $2.59 today
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 07:25 PM
Nov 2023

Diesel was $3.89, 79 cents less than Markwayne Mullins claimed he paid to fill his big ass truck.

doc03

(39,086 posts)
29. There are more than 11, can add Ohio and West Virginia. This morning it was
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 05:44 PM
Nov 2023

$2,83 where I live. I don't understand why since Russia and Saudi Arabia have been cutting production.
Could it be they are getting competition from the EVs? Sheetz is selling gas for $1.99 Friday I think. But it is the
88 blend not suitable for most cars.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
31. "I don't understand why since Russia and Saudi Arabia have been cutting production."
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:32 PM
Nov 2023

They are trying to reduce the global supply so that it drives the price/bbl back up again.

BUT, not only has the U.S. upped it's production to counter that, you have countries like Venezuela now getting back into the market to offset more of the cuts (that was a lot of the sanctions lifting activity seen with respect to Venezuela and the U.S., basically paving the way for that production (some of which is sold through CITGO, which is currently undergoing an auction of the its parent company).

EarthFirst

(4,153 posts)
30. Down .40 here locally in the past month...
Tue Nov 21, 2023, 06:09 PM
Nov 2023

3.14 this morning in WNY where I fueled.

Elsewhere in the area; 3.07 can be found at many of the membership clubs…

SlimJimmy

(3,251 posts)
32. When are we going to refill our SRs?
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 08:22 AM
Nov 2023

Low prices because we are buying from Venezuela now won't last forever. I like lower gas prices, but I'm not foolish enough to think we did anything special to make them happen.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
33. "Teh Google" is your friend
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:12 AM
Nov 2023


Office of Cybersecurity, Energy Security, and Emergency Response

U.S. Department of Energy Announces Monthly Solicitations to Purchase Oil for Strategic Petroleum Reserve Replenishment

October 19, 2023



Office of Cybersecurity, Energy Security, and Emergency Response U.S. Department of Energy Announces Monthly Solicitations to Purchase Oil for Strategic Petroleum Reserve Replenishment

October Solicitation for 6 Million Barrels Continues Biden-Harris Administration’s Commitment to Replenish Reserve at a Good Deal for American Taxpayers, Maintain the SPR’s Operational Readiness, and Protect the Nation’s Energy Security

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Today, the U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Office of Petroleum Reserve announced that that it will post monthly solicitations to purchase oil for the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) through at least May 2024, beginning with a solicitation for up to 6 million barrels of oil for delivery in December 2023 and January 2024. DOE will purchase oil in those months where it can do so at a good deal for taxpayers: a price of $79 dollars per barrel or below, far less than the average $95 per barrel DOE received for 2022 emergency SPR sales.

Today’s announcement advances the President’s commitment to safeguard and replenish this critical energy security asset, following his historic release from the SPR to address the significant global supply disruption caused by Putin’s war on Ukraine and provide a wartime bridge to keep the domestic market well supplied, which ultimately helps bring down prices for American consumers and businesses. Analysis from the Department of the Treasury indicates that SPR releases last year, along with coordinated releases from international partners, reduced gasoline prices by as much as 40 cents per gallon.

Bids for the first solicitation for the purchase of up to 3 million barrels of crude oil, for December receipt, are due no later than 10:00 a.m. Central Time on October 24, 2023. Bids for the second solicitation for the purchase of up to 3 million barrels of crude oil, for January receipt, are due no later than 10:00 a.m. Central Time on November 1, 2023. Each delivery will be received by the Big Hill storage facility. DOE will continue to release monthly solicitations for any available capacity through at least May 2024.

By providing transparency in cadence of solicitations, qualified bidders can more easily submit comprehensive and competitive bids that deliver a good deal for taxpayers.

DOE has already purchased 4.8 million barrels for SPR replenishment for an average less than $73 per barrel – far lower than the average of about $95 per barrel that SPR crude was sold for in 2022.

The Administration’s ongoing three-part replenishment strategy to get the best deal for taxpayers while increasing SPR stocks includes: (1) Direct purchases with revenues from emergency sales; (2) Exchange returns that include a premium to volume delivered; and (3) Securing legislative solutions that avoid unnecessary sales unrelated to supply disruptions. DOE has already secured cancellation of 140 million barrels in congressionally mandated sales scheduled for Fiscal Years 2024 through 2027. This cancellation has led to significant progress toward replenishment.

The SPR continues to be the world’s largest supply of emergency crude oil, and the federally owned oil stocks are stored in underground salt caverns at four sites in Texas and Louisiana. Through scheduled maintenance periods and the Life Extension 2 program, DOE continues to prioritize the operational integrity of the SPR to ensure that the SPR can continue to meet its mission as a critical energy security asset. The SPR has a long history of protecting the economy and American livelihoods in times of emergency oil shortages.

https://www.energy.gov/ceser/articles/us-department-energy-announces-monthly-solicitations-purchase-oil-strategic

For more information on the SPR please visit Infographic: Strategic Petroleum Reserve and Fact Sheet: Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

TheFarseer

(9,770 posts)
34. It's still higher than Trump
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:07 PM
Nov 2023

At the depths of the pandemic, which is always what they lean on. Ask them if they want to go back to lockdowns and full hospitals too and see what they say.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
35. Wanna know why?
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 05:18 PM
Nov 2023

This happened in March 2020 - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142443453

Saudi and Russia got into a pissing match oil production war right at the beginning of what had become a global pandemic and worldwide shutdowns of business (meaning the "demand" essentially disappeared).

By April, they were pumping out so much that they crashed the price, where sellers literally had to PAY for storage to get someone to buy.



Both countries lost a lot of money when they did that and they have been trying to make up for that ever since!

NickB79

(20,356 posts)
37. Lower gas prices kill EV adoption
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 08:10 PM
Nov 2023

Every time, and I mean EVERY TIME, that we see gas prices drop, sales of trucks and SUV's goes up.

2023 was the hottest year on record. 2024 is projected to be as hot, if not hotter. Climate change is poised to cause catastrophic damage to human society NOW, not 50 years in the future.

Like it or not, we will never wean ourselves off fossil fuels while simultaneously keeping them affordable to burn. So while I enjoy paying less at the pump as much as the next guy (though I pay a lot less driving a Prius and living close to work), I mourn the damage we're doing to the ecosystem and what my daughter will inherit as an adult.

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