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BumRushDaShow

(169,760 posts)
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 02:23 PM Nov 2023

Rainbow Bridge: No evidence crash, explosion was terrorist attack, Gov. says

Last edited Wed Nov 22, 2023, 07:46 PM - Edit history (5)

Source: ABC News

November 22, 2023, 5:52 PM


Gov. Kathy Hochul said there is no evidence that the crash and explosion Wednesday on the U.S. side of the Rainbow Bridge, which connects the U.S. to Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, was a terrorist attack. She also told reporters at a news conference said there was no indication any explosives were found at the scene.

Earlier on Wednesday, a vehicle sped toward a border checkpoint at the U.S. side of the bridge, hit a booth, exploded and went airborne, Hochul said. "You actually had to look at it and say, 'Was this generated by A.I.?' because it was so surreal to see how high in the air this vehicle went and then the crash and explosion and the fire," she said.

The driver and passenger were killed, according to the governor. One of the victims was a western New York resident, Hochul said.
One booth agent was injured in the incident and was treated for their injuries at a hospital. They were released later in the day Hochul said.

Hochul said that the investigation would take some time as much of the vehicle was destroyed and debris was scattered over 13 booths. "There is not a license plate," she said. "It was a very congested area," Hochul said, adding, "It could have been very cataclysmic."

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/rainbow-bridge-us-canada-closed-explosion-sources/story?id=105102476



Yikes. I went over that bridge to go to Niagara Falls (Canada side) about 10 years ago. There are lanes and lanes of huge lines of cars at that border crossing. Luckily when we went, they had just implemented E-ZPass and I could use my transponder to pay the toll making the crossing faster (aside from going through Customs).

Article updated.

Previous articles/headlines -

Rainbow Bridge between US, Canada closed following deadly vehicle explosion

November 22, 2023, 4:25 PM


Two people were killed when a vehicle exploded Friday on the U.S. side of the Rainbow Bridge, which connects the U.S. to Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, according to sources. The Rainbow Bridge has closed in the wake of the incident.

The vehicle, believed to be a Mercedes, sped toward a border checkpoint at the U.S. side of the bridge and hit a concrete barrier, multiple sources briefed on the investigation told ABC News. The impact sent the vehicle careening into the area where U.S.-bound cars are sent for secondary screening, sources said. The vehicle burst into flames and exploded, sources said.

Investigators have found some sort of suitcase or briefcase on scene, sources told ABC News. They are treating it as a possible explosive device as a precaution and the bomb squad is handling the package. Ron Rienas, GM of the Buffalo and Fort Erie Public Bridge Authority, told ABC News all four Canada-U.S. bridges over the Niagara River have been closed out of an abundance of caution while the Rainbow Bridge investigation continues.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said, "At my direction, the New York State Police is actively working with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force to monitor all points of entry to New York. I am traveling to Buffalo to meet with law enforcement and emergency responders and will update New Yorkers when more information becomes available." The Buffalo Niagara International Airport said it'll be increasing security, with car checks and additional screenings for travelers.




Rainbow Bridge between US, Canada closed following vehicle explosion: FBI

November 22, 2023, 3:46 PM


The Rainbow Bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, has been closed after a vehicle explosion, according to the FBI and local authorities. There are believed to be fatalities from the incident, multiple officials confirmed to ABC News.

Canadian officials told ABC News the car did not originate on the Canadian side of the border. As investigators work to determine the car's path, it appears the incident started and ended on the U.S. side of bridge.

Surveillance video showed the vehicle stopped at an initial security checkpoint, according to sources briefed on the investigation. The vehicle was then directed to a secondary security checkpoint, and at that point the vehicle sped up and crashed into the secondary screening location, sources said.

What triggered the initial security stop was not immediately clear. It is also not immediately clear what caused the explosion. Investigators have found some sort of suitcase or briefcase on scene, sources told ABC News. They are treating it as a possible explosive device as a precaution and the bomb squad is handling the package.


November 22, 2023, 3:10 PM


The Rainbow Bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, has been closed after a vehicle explosion, according to the FBI and local authorities. There are believed to be fatalities from the incident, multiple officials confirmed to ABC News.

The Niagara Falls mayor's office said the incident involved a vehicle crossing into the U.S. from Canada.

Surveillance video showed the vehicle stopped at an initial security checkpoint, according to sources briefed on the investigation. The vehicle was then directed to a secondary security checkpoint, and at that point the vehicle sped up and crashed into the secondary screening location, sources said.

What triggered the initial security stop was not immediately clear. It is also not immediately clear what caused the explosion. Investigators have found some sort of suitcase or briefcase on scene, sources told ABC News. They are treating it as a possible explosive device as a precaution and the bomb squad is handling the package.



November 22, 2023, 2:28 PM


The Rainbow Bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, has been closed after a vehicle explosion, according to the FBI and local authorities.

There are believed to be fatalities from the incident, multiple officials confirmed to ABC News. The Niagara Falls mayor's office said the incident involved a vehicle crossing into the U.S. from Canada.

Surveillance video showed the vehicle stopped at an initial security checkpoint, according to sources briefed on the investigation. The vehicle was then directed to a secondary security checkpoint, and at that point the vehicle sped up and crashed into the secondary screening location, sources said.

What triggered the initial security stop was not immediately clear. It is also not immediately clear what caused the explosion. Investigators have found some sort of suitcase or briefcase on scene, sources told ABC News. They are treating it as a possible explosive device as a precaution and the bomb squad is handling the package.



November 22, 2023, 1:54 PM


The Rainbow Bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, has been closed after a vehicle explosion, according to the FBI and local authorities.

The Niagara Falls mayor's office said the incident involved a vehicle crossing into the U.S. from Canada. The FBI is at the scene. Ron Rienas, GM of the Buffalo and Fort Erie Public Bridge Authority, told ABC News all four Canada-U.S. bridges over the Niagara River have been closed out of an abundance of caution while the Rainbow Bridge investigation continues.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said, "At my direction, the New York State Police is actively working with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force to monitor all points of entry to New York. I am traveling to Buffalo to meet with law enforcement and emergency responders and will update New Yorkers when more information becomes available."

The Buffalo Niagara International Airport said it'll be increasing security, with car checks and additional screenings for travelers.


This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.



November 22, 2023, 1:39 PM


The Rainbow Bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, has been closed after a vehicle explosion, according to the FBI and local authorities.

The Niagara Falls mayor's office said the incident involved a vehicle crossing into the U.S. from Canada. The FBI is at the scene.

Ron Rienas, GM of the Buffalo and Fort Erie Public Bridge Authority, told ABC News all four Canada-U.S. bridges over the Niagara River have been closed out of an abundance of caution while the Rainbow Bridge investigation continues.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said, "At my direction, the New York State Police is actively working with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force to monitor all points of entry to New York. I am traveling to Buffalo to meet with law enforcement and emergency responders and will update New Yorkers when more information becomes available."


This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.



November 22, 2023, 1:34 PM


The Rainbow Bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, has been closed after a vehicle explosion, according to the FBI and local authorities.

The Niagara Falls mayor's office said the incident involved a vehicle crossing into the U.S. from Canada. New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said she's closely monitoring the situation. The FBI is at the scene.

Ron Rienas, GM of the Buffalo and Fort Erie Public Bridge Authority, told ABC News all four Canada-U.S. bridges over the Niagara River have been closed out of an abundance of caution while the Rainbow Bridge investigation continues.


This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.



Original article/headline -

Rainbow Bridge between US, Canada closed following explosion: Sources

November 22, 2023, 1:16 PM


The Rainbow Bridge connecting the U.S. and Canada at Niagara Falls, New York, has been closed after an explosion on the U.S. side of the bridge, according to multiple law enforcement sources.

The Niagara Falls mayor's office said the incident involved a vehicle crossing into the U.S.

New York Gov. Kathy Hochul said she's closely monitoring the situation.

The FBI is at the scene. Law enforcement is placing K-9 officers on each of the international bridges in the area as a precautionary measure, according to sources.

This is a developing story. Please check back for updates.
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Rainbow Bridge: No evidence crash, explosion was terrorist attack, Gov. says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2023 OP
Yikes, hope it wasn't an intentional attack IronLionZion Nov 2023 #1
We stopped a Canadian invasion? Good work Shanti Shanti Shanti Nov 2023 #3
that's why we need a northern wall IronLionZion Nov 2023 #6
Will the wall keep them out? keithbvadu2 Nov 2023 #31
Not very well IronLionZion Nov 2023 #38
It's always a hassle, knowing that most pigs have trouble speaking English. chouchou Nov 2023 #46
My understanding is that it was meant to slow people down eggplant Nov 2023 #69
Canada probably thinks they need a Southern Wall Kennah Nov 2023 #57
For sure! nt pazzyanne Nov 2023 #65
Canada hasn't invaded since 1813 Retrograde Nov 2023 #75
Based on the opening line of this article, I know what might have blown up. OnlinePoker Nov 2023 #10
Wild pigs? IronLionZion Nov 2023 #17
Well, it is an "exploding population". n/t OnlinePoker Nov 2023 #19
KnR Hekate Nov 2023 #2
A very busy bridge! I hope no one was hurt. LymphocyteLover Nov 2023 #4
A thousand Cherokee100 Nov 2023 #12
2 occupants of the vehicle dead Kennah Nov 2023 #58
Video clip brooklynite Nov 2023 #5
CNN: Source say car accelerated after being directed to a secondary screening area... brooklynite Nov 2023 #7
So it begins...Pretty sure this is terrorism. Suicide bomb. LeftInTX Nov 2023 #8
short video. "2 people who were in the car are dead. A border officer was injured" riversedge Nov 2023 #9
No, not THAT rainbow bridge... milestogo Nov 2023 #11
where's that confounded bridge? JoseBalow Nov 2023 #32
I have three dogs on the other side milestogo Nov 2023 #42
I know exactly how you feel JoseBalow Nov 2023 #44
Does this mean when our Mr.Bill Nov 2023 #13
Sorry, but the vehicle was going to NY...Feel free to speculate...LOL LeftInTX Nov 2023 #23
No it wasn't. brooklynite Nov 2023 #34
How did it end up at CBP, pretty much vaporized with less damage to the CBP building? LeftInTX Nov 2023 #37
No, but it means none of them can cross over today. milestogo Nov 2023 #45
Lucky bastards. I wanna be a cat. Kennah Nov 2023 #59
If it was a terrorist suicide bomb attempt Marthe48 Nov 2023 #14
Don't we have bomb sniffing dogs? LeftInTX Nov 2023 #26
We NeEd Too BuiLD a WaLl!!11!! progressoid Nov 2023 #15
sounds like 2 people crossed the rainbow bridge... literally and figuratively lapfog_1 Nov 2023 #16
Yes...uncalled for. brooklynite Nov 2023 #21
Fox News is citing unnamed law enforcement sources saying the explosion in Niagara Falls was an attempted terror attack riversedge Nov 2023 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author LudwigPastorius Nov 2023 #20
Minor injuries were reported Kennah Nov 2023 #61
Fox News is claiming terrorism IronLionZion Nov 2023 #22
Fox News IS a terrorist organization...So they would know how to identify one. Ford_Prefect Nov 2023 #29
Yes, but the car pretty much vaporized....I don't have another explanation... LeftInTX Nov 2023 #35
It is very likely IronLionZion Nov 2023 #39
Given the updated information you might consider self-deleting all of your "it's probably terrorism" comments. eggplant Nov 2023 #70
Make sure to tell everyone else to delete their posts also! LeftInTX Nov 2023 #71
It was meant as a gentle suggestion. eggplant Nov 2023 #73
Terrorist attack? Seems likely at this time. mn9driver Nov 2023 #24
The wreckage of the car suggests these explosives were high velocity. mn9driver Nov 2023 #25
The video posted upthread looks more gasoline based. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2023 #41
Buffalo airport now closed to international flights... brooklynite Nov 2023 #27
Went across this bridge last year gay texan Nov 2023 #28
Many years ago as we were crossing into Canada, border security Backseat Driver Nov 2023 #30
Video clip of explosion brooklynite Nov 2023 #33
I'm no explosion expert but that looks more like a gasoline explosion than high explosives. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2023 #40
Doesnt look line high exposives to me either DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2023 #47
It's kind of a pet peeve of mine in movies when they portray high explosives... Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2023 #48
Yea, i always get a laugh at that DetroitLegalBeagle Nov 2023 #49
Remember one airline passenger with "explosive rigged shoes." caused every airline passenger since then to remove..... usaf-vet Nov 2023 #36
I remember when lots of mass shooters caused absolutely nothing to change but thoughts and prayers IronLionZion Nov 2023 #43
I'm just happy he didn't have it shoved up his rectum. Probatim Nov 2023 #53
It took until iteration 7 of the story.... eggplant Nov 2023 #50
Yes--seems like it should be pretty obvious what side the car was coming from. Wingus Dingus Nov 2023 #52
Fog of war. eggplant Nov 2023 #68
Phew, then Canada can build a wall on their southern border IronLionZion Nov 2023 #54
You might consider removing the sarcasm tag, but there should be a half sarcasm tag Kennah Nov 2023 #60
Day before the holiday and lots of people are on the roads. sheshe2 Nov 2023 #51
Buffalo News: Apparently NOT a terrorist act brooklynite Nov 2023 #55
Gov Kathy Hochul saying emphatically there is no known terrorist element to this explosion at this time Kennah Nov 2023 #56
MSNBC showed B&W surveillance footage that showed the car was airborn. Talitha Nov 2023 #62
I'm still not clear what direction the car was travelling. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2023 #63
Not much help, but the car was going left-to-right in MSNBC's footage. Talitha Nov 2023 #64
I heard an "eye witness" say it was heading from US to Canada. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2023 #66
Seeing the video of the crash was the first inkling to me that it might not be terrorism. ificandream Nov 2023 #67
Airborne video IronLionZion Nov 2023 #72
How many terrorists drive $300,000 Bently with their wife on a terror mission?? LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #74
Sounds like death by status symbol to me. Scruffy1 Nov 2023 #76

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
1. Yikes, hope it wasn't an intentional attack
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 02:35 PM
Nov 2023

Then we'll have to build a northern wall to keep out Canadians.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
38. Not very well
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:51 PM
Nov 2023

Conscripts stationed at the wall were easily bribed to open gates or be lured out and killed. And many times the Mongols just rode around it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Great_Wall_of_China#The_onset_of_the_Mongols

Only Trump can protect America from Canada.

chouchou

(3,144 posts)
46. It's always a hassle, knowing that most pigs have trouble speaking English.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 05:16 PM
Nov 2023

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they still use Latin.

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
69. My understanding is that it was meant to slow people down
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 09:07 PM
Nov 2023

trying to get away with plunder. But then again, maybe I'm wrong.

Retrograde

(11,419 posts)
75. Canada hasn't invaded since 1813
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 10:10 PM
Nov 2023

when they burned the settlement that would become Buffalo. Although they were part of Britain at the time. And there really wasn't much to burn in the first place. But that's why there are two forts along the Canadian side of the river, and one on the American side. Come to think of it, the Americans invaded more frequently, at Lundy's Lane near Niagara Falls during the War of 1812, and a do-it-yourself invasion during the Civil War that fizzled pretty quickly (This is what happens when you live in the area and have a history buff for a father. I used to know where the War of 1812 cemetery was in Buffalo, but forgot)

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
7. CNN: Source say car accelerated after being directed to a secondary screening area...
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 03:19 PM
Nov 2023

Crashes into secondary screening building.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
8. So it begins...Pretty sure this is terrorism. Suicide bomb.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 03:19 PM
Nov 2023

To scare Americans.

Why else would this happen? No one loses control of a vehicle to the point of explosion at CBP.

Videos showed that the fire was in a U.S. Customs and Border Protection area just east of the main vehicle checkpoint. (Bet they had a bomb)

Both occupants were killed. CBP agent injured.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
37. How did it end up at CBP, pretty much vaporized with less damage to the CBP building?
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:45 PM
Nov 2023

Sure looks like an explosion to me.

Marthe48

(23,175 posts)
14. If it was a terrorist suicide bomb attempt
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 03:51 PM
Nov 2023

or any other terrorist attack idea, grateful thanks to the border patrol agents who noticed something sketchy about the car or the people in the car.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
26. Don't we have bomb sniffing dogs?
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:23 PM
Nov 2023

I think whoever it was knew and planned to detonate before they were caught and prevented...Just speculating.

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
16. sounds like 2 people crossed the rainbow bridge... literally and figuratively
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 03:53 PM
Nov 2023

2 passengers, no word on the driver.

and... Too Soon???

riversedge

(80,810 posts)
18. Fox News is citing unnamed law enforcement sources saying the explosion in Niagara Falls was an attempted terror attack
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 03:53 PM
Nov 2023


Fox News is citing unnamed law enforcement sources saying the explosion in Niagara Falls was an attempted terror attack

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
22. Fox News is claiming terrorism
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:01 PM
Nov 2023

other news sources saying the FBI is investigating and too soon to speculate.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
35. Yes, but the car pretty much vaporized....I don't have another explanation...
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:43 PM
Nov 2023

Blew up at the drive-through....

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
70. Given the updated information you might consider self-deleting all of your "it's probably terrorism" comments.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 09:12 PM
Nov 2023

n/t

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
73. It was meant as a gentle suggestion.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 09:26 PM
Nov 2023

Your comments seem to be the majority of the "pretty sure it was terrorism" posts. If you do delete, I'll suggest it to the next most frequent as well.

Nobody benefits from earlier wild speculation after better information comes out.

mn9driver

(4,848 posts)
24. Terrorist attack? Seems likely at this time.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:11 PM
Nov 2023

What isn’t known is who is responsible. Someone supporting Palestinians? Israel? Russia? Crazed MAGATs? Some other group?

I don’t think we know any of that yet.

mn9driver

(4,848 posts)
25. The wreckage of the car suggests these explosives were high velocity.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:20 PM
Nov 2023

If so, it’s amazing anyone close by survived—if they in fact did. Also, this type of explosive is not easy to come by or make. This is probably not a random crazy that did this.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
27. Buffalo airport now closed to international flights...
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:23 PM
Nov 2023

...all vehicles entering the airport being screened.

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
30. Many years ago as we were crossing into Canada, border security
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:30 PM
Nov 2023

told DH, the driver, to open the back of our Jeep Cherokee. They looked around a bit, gave it the thumbs up, but then confiscated DH's Bowie knife that he's always traveled with (and it is visibly sheathed on his belt). We did all the "where were you born" stuff, and told them we were just going to Canada for a few hours to view the falls from the Canadian side. They told him to stop on the way back into the US to reclaim his knife. Tjree hours later, DH did; and the knife was returned to him.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,504 posts)
47. Doesnt look line high exposives to me either
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 05:21 PM
Nov 2023

The booth wouldn't be there. Other pics show the windows still in one piece. Granted there is a good chance they are ballistic glass, but high explosives would have blown them out.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
48. It's kind of a pet peeve of mine in movies when they portray high explosives...
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 05:24 PM
Nov 2023

… with obvious gasoline bombs.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,504 posts)
49. Yea, i always get a laugh at that
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 05:33 PM
Nov 2023

Having seen high exposives and grenades used in person, the giant fireballs are always funny. But I understand why they do it in movies. The fire makes them more exciting then what they look like in real life.

usaf-vet

(7,811 posts)
36. Remember one airline passenger with "explosive rigged shoes." caused every airline passenger since then to remove.....
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 04:43 PM
Nov 2023

....their shoes.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
43. I remember when lots of mass shooters caused absolutely nothing to change but thoughts and prayers
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 05:05 PM
Nov 2023

but at least we can all be safely groped, screened, and prodded when we fly. Pre-check is good for airlines that use it.

Probatim

(3,286 posts)
53. I'm just happy he didn't have it shoved up his rectum.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 06:01 PM
Nov 2023

Not sure I could afford the co-pay for every flight.

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
50. It took until iteration 7 of the story....
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 05:38 PM
Nov 2023

...to say that it didn't come from Canada.

Fog of war, gotta wait until they figure out what actually happened. Remember Richard Jewell?

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
52. Yes--seems like it should be pretty obvious what side the car was coming from.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 05:49 PM
Nov 2023

Really basic fact. How did they get that wrong for 2-3 hours?

eggplant

(4,199 posts)
68. Fog of war.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 09:04 PM
Nov 2023

Since it blew up on our side, clearly it came from their side. Supposedly Hochul says it wasn't terrorism. Now I have to find updates so I can determine if *that* piece of information is correct.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
54. Phew, then Canada can build a wall on their southern border
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 06:11 PM
Nov 2023

to keep out crazy Americans.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
55. Buffalo News: Apparently NOT a terrorist act
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 06:14 PM
Nov 2023

A law enforcement source told the Buffalo News that as of early Wednesday evening, investigators don't believe the incident was a terrorist act.

https://buffalonews.com/news/local/accident-and-incident/rainbow-bridge-explosion-niagara-falls/article_a891ea34-895a-11ee-9f03-8bf12b0ede79.html

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
56. Gov Kathy Hochul saying emphatically there is no known terrorist element to this explosion at this time
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 06:20 PM
Nov 2023

Talitha

(7,988 posts)
62. MSNBC showed B&W surveillance footage that showed the car was airborn.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 06:26 PM
Nov 2023

It was not aflame while in the air. How in the world did it get airborn? They said something about it going 100 mph.

EDIT to add - It also looked like it sailed over a fence before exploding.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
63. I'm still not clear what direction the car was travelling.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 06:50 PM
Nov 2023

I've read reports of both directions. And heard Hochel say the owner of the car was a western New Yorker.

Talitha

(7,988 posts)
64. Not much help, but the car was going left-to-right in MSNBC's footage.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 07:02 PM
Nov 2023

They might have said where it was taken from, but I didn't catch it.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
66. I heard an "eye witness" say it was heading from US to Canada.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 08:44 PM
Nov 2023

But I've read here the opposite direction. Time will tell.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
67. Seeing the video of the crash was the first inkling to me that it might not be terrorism.
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 09:01 PM
Nov 2023

Very glad to hear this.

IronLionZion

(51,268 posts)
72. Airborne video
Wed Nov 22, 2023, 09:23 PM
Nov 2023




American officials are saying it's not terrorism. The individual was local to the Buffalo area. The car was coming from the US towards Canada.

But there's no point arguing with freepers who know in their racist hearts that it's jihad from across the border. We can't believe our lying eyes or deep state officials.

Scruffy1

(3,533 posts)
76. Sounds like death by status symbol to me.
Thu Nov 23, 2023, 03:57 PM
Nov 2023

No doubt in my mind that giving the average driver a 700 plus horsepower Jalopy is a recipe for disaster. I'm betting on wrong pedal followed by panic freeze. I've seen it before.

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