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BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 06:56 AM Nov 2023

Municipal Water Authority of Aliquippa hacked by Iranian-backed cyber group

Source: CBS News

Updated on: November 25, 2023 / 11:31 PM EST


ALIQUIPPA, Pa. (KDKA) - The Municipal Water Authority of Aliquippa said on Saturday that one of their booster stations had been hacked by an Iranian-backed cyber group.

Matthew Mottes, the chairman of the board of directors for the Municipal Water Authority of Aliquippa, confirmed to KDKA-TV that the cyber group, known as Cyber Av3ngers, took control of one of the stations. An alarm went off as soon as the hack had occurred.


Submitted / Municipal Water Authority of Aliquippa


Mottes added that the station, located on the outskirts of town, monitors and regulates pressure for Raccoon and Potter Townships and stressed that there is no known risk to the drinking water or water supply.

The machine that was hacked uses a system called Unitronics, which Mottes says is software or has components that are Israeli-owned.

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/municipal-water-authority-of-aliquippa-hacked-iranian-backed-cyber-group/

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Municipal Water Authority of Aliquippa hacked by Iranian-backed cyber group (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Nov 2023 OP
I consider that to lean more toward terrorism than hacking. Wingus Dingus Nov 2023 #1
Haven't you heard? EllieBC Nov 2023 #2
Act of War? EndlessWire Nov 2023 #3
This is rather worrisome Delphinus Nov 2023 #4
Yup... GB_RN Nov 2023 #6
It's Time To Return The Favor... GB_RN Nov 2023 #5
Could this be a false flag operation? Kennah Nov 2023 #7
Iranian Hackers Deep State Witch Nov 2023 #9
Iranian proxies have made dozens of actual attacks on US facilities FBaggins Nov 2023 #11
Spook Americans in order to cause them to press for a bombing of Iran? Kennah Nov 2023 #16
That was implied in calling it a "false flag" operation FBaggins Nov 2023 #17
Have you met Americans? Or 'Muricans? Kennah Nov 2023 #18
We had perfectly fine operational water systems BEFORE the internet. Disconnect! oldsoftie Nov 2023 #8
Sensors Deep State Witch Nov 2023 #10
But cant that system stay "in-house"? oldsoftie Nov 2023 #12
It should Deep State Witch Nov 2023 #14
I'm sure the words have been uttered ... Kennah Nov 2023 #20
My guess is easy of use Kennah Nov 2023 #19
You're prob right. We're gonna have to make a decision; convenience or security. oldsoftie Nov 2023 #21
It sounds more like someone in moms basement . Historic NY Nov 2023 #13
I'm going to agree with you on that one FakeNoose Nov 2023 #15
Story from the local newspaper Deminpenn Nov 2023 #22

Wingus Dingus

(9,173 posts)
1. I consider that to lean more toward terrorism than hacking.
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 12:24 PM
Nov 2023

Fucking with the controls of our water supply isn't "hacking".

EllieBC

(3,639 posts)
2. Haven't you heard?
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 01:19 PM
Nov 2023

It’s perfectly acceptable in the name of “resistance” and “protest.”

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
3. Act of War?
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 06:31 PM
Nov 2023

Pretty odd that they would advertise who did it. Not much other than the system had been disabled and that the water itself was safe. The hacked software regulated water pressure.

What is the law regarding hacking our utilities? If this group is effectively hooked up with Iran, then impute the intent on to Iran. It makes no difference that they targeted Israeli software. It is located here.

Is this group designated a terrorist group? Two can play this game...thanks for showing us where we need to harden up our software.

Delphinus

(12,522 posts)
4. This is rather worrisome
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 07:33 PM
Nov 2023

Back when the orange menace was "president" a whole lot of things got hacked - they had a name for it which I cannot remember, but it showed we were very vulnerable.

This kind of thing is terrorism in my way of thinking - just like if we had a group of proud boys or some domestic terrorist group here messing with the utilities.

GB_RN

(3,560 posts)
6. Yup...
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 08:35 PM
Nov 2023

And Putin’s Puppet did precisely fuck all about any of it, whether it was the Iranians or, the Chinese. It was a guarantee that if the Russians and their infamous Internet Research Agency, GRU or FSB were involved, Dolt45 would sweep it under the rug and if push came to shove, he’d just say, “Putin denies it and I believe him.”

GB_RN

(3,560 posts)
5. It's Time To Return The Favor...
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 08:30 PM
Nov 2023

To that whacky old man in a turban, the Ayatollah. Hack the shit out of everything he touches. Bank accounts, state security shit, his troll farms, their “Revolutionary Guard”, or whatever we can get into except civilian infrastructure. Otherwise, I say make the Ayatollah feel the electronic pain.

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
7. Could this be a false flag operation?
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 09:19 PM
Nov 2023

Like the Russians? Enemy of my enemy is said to be a friend, but it can also be a convenient fall guy to distract. Contribute to more focus on the Middle East and less focus on Ukraine.

Deep State Witch

(12,717 posts)
9. Iranian Hackers
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 10:28 PM
Nov 2023

Are quite capable on their own of getting into SCADA systems like water supplies, etc. They may have gotten information from the Russians on how to do it, but the IRGC hackers are pretty darn good.

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
11. Iranian proxies have made dozens of actual attacks on US facilities
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 05:51 AM
Nov 2023

We’ve moved a carrier group into the gulf.

I don’t think endangering the water pressure in a small municipality is going add much incentive to strike.

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
17. That was implied in calling it a "false flag" operation
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 08:06 PM
Nov 2023

The question you haven’t answered is why Russia would think that a minor impact on the water pressure of a tiny suburb would cause us to want to attack when things like ballistic missile attacks on US forces didn’t?

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
8. We had perfectly fine operational water systems BEFORE the internet. Disconnect!
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 10:18 PM
Nov 2023

Why do things like this need to be connected to the outside NOW? So many things we see getting hacked existed & functioned long before the internet; fuel supply lines, hospitals, water systems, schools, etc etc. WHY does EVERYTHING have to be connected to the entire world? We have water system employees; they dont need internet connections, Some of these things are national security items.
Guess I'm just too old to "understand"

Deep State Witch

(12,717 posts)
10. Sensors
Sun Nov 26, 2023, 10:31 PM
Nov 2023

What used to be done by people is now done by sensors. Water pressure drops, water main breaks, etc. are caught a lot more quickly with sensors. However, this comes with a cost - it is possible to hack what's called SCADA (Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition) systems. Especially if one can get into a specific component like an Israeli-made router.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
12. But cant that system stay "in-house"?
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 07:40 AM
Nov 2023

If an alarm goes off then someone somewhere (if no one is onsite) gets notified, via phone like alarms USED to work?
It just seems that the hackers are always going to find a way, so we just go back to what worked before & exclude their opportunities.

Deep State Witch

(12,717 posts)
14. It should
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 04:45 PM
Nov 2023

Yes, it should. But, for smaller municipalities, it's probably cheaper to have it go over the Internet than in a dedicated network.

Nobody ever thinks about security until it's too late.

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
20. I'm sure the words have been uttered ...
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 08:19 PM
Nov 2023

... "Who would hack a water utility? We're fine with Windows 95 [or something similarly insecure]."

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
19. My guess is easy of use
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 08:17 PM
Nov 2023

As an IT nerd, I've been using notifications in code, including Mainframe COBOL, since the 1990s. I would send myself emails or pager alerts when things complete or break. Also, remove access since that time to work from home and/or check things after hours, so I don't have to stay there physically.

Probably aren't coders writing code at a water utility, but I'm betting they remotely monitor things so techs can be at the beach or wherever and still monitor things.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
21. You're prob right. We're gonna have to make a decision; convenience or security.
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 10:17 PM
Nov 2023

Right now I dont think these types of systems can have both at the same time. And if someone figures out how to freeze a water system I'd bet its not too far a jump to crashing the electrical grid.
Our infrastructure security is woefully underfunded IMO

FakeNoose

(41,637 posts)
15. I'm going to agree with you on that one
Mon Nov 27, 2023, 04:56 PM
Nov 2023

This sounds really skeevy and amateurish.

Mainly because Aliquippa is this tiny little town (actually a suburb of Pittsburgh) in Beaver County. There's no strategic value to this hack, there's no political value, and Aliquippa doesn't have any money to ransom their software.



Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
22. Story from the local newspaper
Tue Nov 28, 2023, 06:35 AM
Nov 2023
https://www.timesonline.com/story/news/local/2023/11/27/federal-state-investigators-probing-aliquippa-water-authority-hack/71720634007/

Cyber Av3ngers took responsibility for the Saturday attack, targeting a system made by Israeli company Unitronics. The group has claimed responsibility for similar attacks globally, recently at nearly a dozen water treatment stations in Israel.
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