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SouthBayDem

(33,310 posts)
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 01:08 PM Dec 2023

Ron DeSantis bashes Trump and teases plans to 'supersede' Obamacare

Source: NBC

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said on NBC's "Meet the Press" that he would replace Obamacare with a "better plan" — part of an interview in which he criticized former President Donald Trump for failing to deliver on numerous policy promises during his term in the White House, including frequent pledges to replace the health care law.

“Obamacare hasn’t worked,” DeSantis said in the interview with moderator Kristen Welker, which aired Sunday morning. “We are going to replace and supersede with a better plan.”

He declined to provide details about how his plan would "supersede" Obamacare, also known as the Affordable Care Act, adding that his campaign would most likely roll out a proposal in the spring.

DeSantis asserted that his plan would have "more transparency, more consumer choice, more affordable options, less red tape, less bureaucracy weighing everybody down."

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-bashes-trump-teases-plans-supersede-obamacare-rcna127414

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Ron DeSantis bashes Trump and teases plans to 'supersede' Obamacare (Original Post) SouthBayDem Dec 2023 OP
"More affordable options" equals shittier options David__77 Dec 2023 #1
Exactly. Ocelot II Dec 2023 #6
DeathSentenceCare ought to be a real winner bucolic_frolic Dec 2023 #2
Ahh have the faith, Ron! You have opened my eyes! How soon, you say? Two weeks? keithbvadu2 Dec 2023 #3
ACA does not work? hibbing Dec 2023 #4
I think you are right, tax credits will ... reACTIONary Dec 2023 #17
Rhondacare will be fabulous - "Don't get sick or I'll slit your throat!" dalton99a Dec 2023 #5
The infamous "another plan" that never happens. These folks (GOP) do not have walkingman Dec 2023 #7
It'll be ready in two weeks.... Blue Owl Dec 2023 #9
Exactly ..."declined to provide details"...more vaporware. They have had 10 years to at least get an outline. Nada. dutch777 Dec 2023 #10
Provide health care for all. Problem solved. Money saved. Fewer TV commercials. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #8
The QOP had over 13 years to come up with their own plan sakabatou Dec 2023 #11
"declined to provide details" CTyankee Dec 2023 #12
Standard operating lies from the GOP. bronxiteforever Dec 2023 #13
"We're going to replace ObamaCare!" With what? I'll get back to you on that after you elect me.... ZonkerHarris Dec 2023 #14
The Republicans came up with a health care plan in 2017, which Trump approved progree Dec 2023 #15
The GOP thinks taking away 40 million Americans health care is a winning idea. Lunatics. sarcasmo Dec 2023 #16
His plan should be ready in a few weeks? pwb Dec 2023 #18
Everybody? You guys notice that he had not ggma Dec 2023 #19
The republican's couldn't fix a turd in a swimming pool ? noclue023 Dec 2023 #21
he has been soooooo good with controling home insurance...this should be simps for him dembotoz Dec 2023 #20
How cute! DeSantis thinks he has a campaign! Novara Dec 2023 #22
Heard that before Rebl2 Dec 2023 #23
the desperate flailings of a bullshit artist. nt Javaman Dec 2023 #24
His plan is to further his COVID plan kairos12 Dec 2023 #25
Yeah, just like he solved the insurance crisis in Florida. What's he gonna do, make a law you can't say healthcare. RKP5637 Dec 2023 #26
Oh so you're pro-choice now. Tell Sen. Rubio to unblock the Risk Corridors underpants Dec 2023 #27
Sounds just like tRump's 2016 heathcare reform and I bet it is the same. Talk Only No Damn Plan IA8IT Dec 2023 #28
DeSantis plan--we will see nothing but Kingofalldems Dec 2023 #29
Why won't this shitstain just go away? Dulcinea Dec 2023 #30

Ocelot II

(130,814 posts)
6. Exactly.
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 01:21 PM
Dec 2023

Big profits for insurers which will be allowed once again to exclude pre-existing conditions, impose high deductibles and deny coverage for almost everything. That's what's meant by "affordable options." For only $100 a month you'll be covered for kwashiorkor, jungle rot, earwig infestations, removal of a sixth toe and not much else.

bucolic_frolic

(55,406 posts)
2. DeathSentenceCare ought to be a real winner
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 01:15 PM
Dec 2023

Let me guess. Doctors at fire houses and churches. You get five minutes, waiting lines go around 3 blocks. It will be just like voting.

hibbing

(10,602 posts)
4. ACA does not work?
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 01:17 PM
Dec 2023

I wonder if there was any pushback. I believe the number of uninsured dropped significantly. Let me guess, their solution will be tax credits and the magic hand (middle finger) of the free market.

Peace

reACTIONary

(7,210 posts)
17. I think you are right, tax credits will ...
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 03:46 PM
Dec 2023

... will be part of the plan. If a "plan" ever shows up.

How does that help if all you do is fill out the short form every year?

walkingman

(10,973 posts)
7. The infamous "another plan" that never happens. These folks (GOP) do not have
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 01:28 PM
Dec 2023

Last edited Sun Dec 3, 2023, 05:21 PM - Edit history (1)

the brain power or energy to design a plan that works. Never have and never will. The so-called "free market" is an easy answer to everything when you are braindead.

dutch777

(5,090 posts)
10. Exactly ..."declined to provide details"...more vaporware. They have had 10 years to at least get an outline. Nada.
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 01:56 PM
Dec 2023

Given they can't get budget deals done that have a well established template, I can't imagine what level of drama and Talk Alot But Do Nothing creating a new comprehensive health care plan would entail. And that is just on the GOP side. Dems won't even play in that cat litter excuse for a legislative sand box.

twodogsbarking

(18,970 posts)
8. Provide health care for all. Problem solved. Money saved. Fewer TV commercials.
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 01:43 PM
Dec 2023

In other dreams I am 21 again and have a trust fund so I never have to work again.

CTyankee

(68,291 posts)
12. "declined to provide details"
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 02:07 PM
Dec 2023

Surprise, surprise!
Of course, if he did provide details his campaign would be over fast. The liberal press would badger him ceaselessly about which details would be included.

The answer "I'd replace it with a better plan" won't work because the press would demand what would be exactly what he means. He is asking us to trust him. Do you think anybody (sane) would believe him? He's got his rabid right and they don't make up the vast majority of voters.

The Biden campaign has to take each one of his replace model items and show the public how it cannot work as Obamacare obviously does for the vast majority of Americans.

bronxiteforever

(11,212 posts)
13. Standard operating lies from the GOP.
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 02:10 PM
Dec 2023

Trump 2018- Obamacare is a disaster. You have to remember Obamacare doesn’t work, so we are putting in a wonderful plan. It statutorily takes a while to get. We’re going to be putting it in fairly soon. I think that, yes, I would like to say by the end of the year, at least the rudiments, but we should have something within the year and the following year. As he campaigned for the White House that he declared in an interview with CBS’ “60 Minutes”: “I am going to take care of everybody … Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.” More recently, Trump has promised that repeal will end with “a beautiful picture.”

Rubio 2015-The time has come for our generation to lead the way toward a new American century,” Fla. Senator Marco Rubio said. “If we reform our tax code, reduce regulations, control spending, modernize our immigration laws and repeal and replace Obamacare, the American people will create millions of better-paying modern jobs.”

And in blasted memory of Kissinger

In the Fall of 1968, Richard Nixon was elected U.S. President with the pledge to end the controversial war on Vietnam based on his secret plan—which he refused to divulge, but he promised “peace with honor.” As archives recently made public revealed, Nixon’s actual “peace plan” was to escalate the war. “I can’t believe that a fourth-rate power like Vietnam doesn’t have a breaking point,” Kissinger moaned.

Desantis is just another brick in the wall.



 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
14. "We're going to replace ObamaCare!" With what? I'll get back to you on that after you elect me....
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 03:03 PM
Dec 2023

progree

(13,031 posts)
15. The Republicans came up with a health care plan in 2017, which Trump approved
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 03:04 PM
Dec 2023

the AHCA and the BCRA. Problem: they were awful

This Wikipedia articles covers both the AHCA (American Health Care Act) and the BCRA (Better Care Reconciliation Act)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Health_Care_Act_of_2017

H.R. 1628, American Health Care Act of 2017, Cost Estimate, CBO, 5/24/17
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52752
would increase the number of people who are uninsured by 23 million in 2026 relative to current law.


H.R. 1628, Better Care Reconciliation Act of 2017, Cost Estimate, CBO, 6/26/17
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52849
A little bit better: leaving 22 million uninsured in 2026 relative to current law.

This is the one that Senator John McCain famously turned thumbs down on. Otherwise it would have become law.
Start at 2:45



Both can only be described as acts of American Genocide. We need to call the GOP the American Genocide Party.

pwb

(12,715 posts)
18. His plan should be ready in a few weeks?
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 04:53 PM
Dec 2023

Just like trumps was.

Talk, talk, talk is all it is...

ggma

(711 posts)
19. Everybody? You guys notice that he had not
Sun Dec 3, 2023, 05:16 PM
Dec 2023

mentioned healthcare reform until Orange Ass did? Might be that I missed it...

gg

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
26. Yeah, just like he solved the insurance crisis in Florida. What's he gonna do, make a law you can't say healthcare.
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 10:38 AM
Dec 2023

This fool is as wacky as they come!

IA8IT

(6,435 posts)
28. Sounds just like tRump's 2016 heathcare reform and I bet it is the same. Talk Only No Damn Plan
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 11:11 AM
Dec 2023

Dulcinea

(10,167 posts)
30. Why won't this shitstain just go away?
Mon Dec 4, 2023, 05:04 PM
Dec 2023

He must know, deep down inside, that he'll NEVER be president. Ever.

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