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riversedge

(70,980 posts)
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 05:23 PM Dec 2023

Texas woman asks judge to let her terminate pregnancy after lethal fetal diagnosis

Source: texas tribune




In an emergency request, the Center for Reproductive Rights is asking a judge to allow Kate Cox to terminate her pregnancy after she received a lethal fetal diagnosis.


Eleanor Klibanoff Dec. 5, 2023 Updated: 1 hour ago



A Texas woman has filed an emergency lawsuit, asking a Travis County judge to allow her to terminate her pregnancy.

This is the first time since before Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973 that an adult woman has asked a court to intervene to allow her to terminate a pregnancy, and the first lawsuit of its kind since Texas banned almost all abortions in 2022.

Kate Cox, a 31-year-old Dallas woman, learned last week that her fetus was diagnosed with full trisomy 18, a chromosomal anomaly that is almost always fatal before or soon after birth. The fetus is developing with an umbilical hernia, a twisted spine, a club foot and an irregular skull and heart, according to the lawsuit.

Cox, who already has two children, both delivered by Cesarean section, also has elevated glucose and underlying health conditions. The lawsuit alleges she is at increased risk of gestational hypertension and diabetes and complications from anesthesia and cesarean section, if she were to carry the pregnancy to term...................

Read more: https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/05/texas-abortion-lawsuit/



It is bad enough to hear it is a fetal diagnosis but now is forced to carry to term--if judge decides so.
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Texas woman asks judge to let her terminate pregnancy after lethal fetal diagnosis (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2023 OP
Will the judge come into the courtroom wearing his miter and carrying his book of superstitions (bible?) PSPS Dec 2023 #1
So we want people without medical expertise to decide these type of issues? OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2023 #2
We are the USA where only women living in blue or bluish states can have Reproductive rights. riversedge Dec 2023 #4
Same applies for most rights these days. It is bizarre that you can walkingman Dec 2023 #9
It wasn't suppose to be like this... slightlv Dec 2023 #18
That's simply wrong TexasDem69 Dec 2023 #24
Some information from Center for Reproductive Rights........... riversedge Dec 2023 #3
Food for thought Traildogbob Dec 2023 #5
ALL these cultists bastards are willing to give up the rights of every American citizen, just to stop bluestarone Dec 2023 #6
Judges are elected in Texas Major Nikon Dec 2023 #7
Texas gets more backwards by the day. The only cure is for more people to vote. walkingman Dec 2023 #8
Exactly what Texas wants--right-wing legislatures and judges making women's medical decisions. Lonestarblue Dec 2023 #10
They also refuse to believe that there is such a thing as a fetal anomaly that amounts to a death sentenece. 😡 ShazzieB Dec 2023 #12
Well, they don't care about the kid Warpy Dec 2023 #11
She wasn't married to the "right kind" of man... slightlv Dec 2023 #19
And so it begins. jaxexpat Dec 2023 #13
Why waste your time on a TX court? RainCaster Dec 2023 #14
I read a fewmonths ago about women pilots who were doing just that: flying women to abortion access states from CTyankee Dec 2023 #17
This is sick, forcing a woman to go to court to ask a judge to make a medical decision. Bev54 Dec 2023 #15
As if abortion was never legal in the first place Novara Dec 2023 #16
So now the Court is the Dr? PlutosHeart Dec 2023 #20
It's about controlling women, not about logic or humanity. Kablooie Dec 2023 #21
This is about Republican dedication to the subjugation of women dlk Dec 2023 #22
SIXTH GRADER ASKS JUDGE BOSSHOG Dec 2023 #23
Patriarchal pigs! That poor woman! electric_blue68 Dec 2023 #25
And the PATRIARCHAL WAR ON WOMEN continues apace. NO woman should niyad Dec 2023 #26
Right to life... Bayard Dec 2023 #27
Time to flood the courts Old Crank Dec 2023 #28
The cost of litigation Old Crank Dec 2023 #29
NO WOMAN should have to beg a judge to terminate a pregnancy. CousinIT Dec 2023 #30
just the fact that she has to beg a judge barbtries Dec 2023 #31
The right thinks this is perfectly reasonable. But just think how they would howl if, to purchase an AK-47, LaMouffette Dec 2023 #32

PSPS

(13,706 posts)
1. Will the judge come into the courtroom wearing his miter and carrying his book of superstitions (bible?)
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 05:35 PM
Dec 2023

Those, alone, denote his expertise in the practice of medicine.


OAITW r.2.0

(25,215 posts)
2. So we want people without medical expertise to decide these type of issues?
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 05:35 PM
Dec 2023

WTF is wrong with "pro-lfe" people?

walkingman

(7,888 posts)
9. Same applies for most rights these days. It is bizarre that you can
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 07:39 PM
Dec 2023

travel across a state line and on one side something is legal and on the other a felony.

slightlv

(3,143 posts)
18. It wasn't suppose to be like this...
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 10:13 PM
Dec 2023

continuity in laws across states was the ideal for generations. It only took one party... and one party instigator... to take it all down. When we get back the government... in full... we need to make some necessary changes. This must never be allowed to happen again.

riversedge

(70,980 posts)
3. Some information from Center for Reproductive Rights...........
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 05:44 PM
Dec 2023


Texas won't let Kate Cox get an abortion even though her fetus has a fatal genetic anomaly and she is suffering agonizing, ongoing pain. She just sued in state court demanding the right to terminate the failed pregnancy immediately.

https://reproductiverights.org/wp-content/upl

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https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/05/texas-abortion-lawsuit/

.........The lawsuit says that Cox cannot wait for the Supreme Court to rule and asks the judge to grant a temporary restraining order, prohibiting enforcement of Texas’ abortion bans against Cox and her husband, as well as Dr. Damla Karsan, an OB/GYN who has agreed to perform the abortion, and her employees. Karsan is a plaintiff in Zurawski v. Texas as well. Cox’s lawsuit also asks for a declaratory judgement that finds the state’s abortion bans do not apply to patients with emergent medical conditions.

Molly Duane, senior staff attorney for the Center for Reproductive Rights, agreed with Klusmann that most people experiencing a pregnancy complication won’t be able to file a lawsuit. And with such a novel litigation strategy, she said it was unclear whether the courts would act quickly enough to actually get Cox the relief she seeks in a timely manner.

“This is not a normal or reasonable or feasible way for health care to be practiced in this country,” Duane said.

If a judge grants a temporary restraining order, the Office of the Attorney General cannot directly appeal or block that order, as it has with the injunction in the Zurawski case. But the state could ask a higher court to intervene through a writ of mandamus filing, which would delay and possibly deny Cox’s request for an abortion. And a temporary restraining order would not likely extend beyond Cox’s case, meaning other patient seeking an abortion on similar grounds would need to go to court themselves.



Traildogbob

(9,083 posts)
5. Food for thought
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 06:09 PM
Dec 2023

If Hamas or Russian thugs attack America while Trump leaves the door open for those types, all the women and children that get raped will have to carry the child to term. And our religious leaders call that pregnancy a blessing.
Wait, we could bet our asses the AMERICAN Trump terrorist military would be doing raping as well as they round up all the vermin.

bluestarone

(17,379 posts)
6. ALL these cultists bastards are willing to give up the rights of every American citizen, just to stop
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 06:35 PM
Dec 2023

ALL WOMAN from the right to choose!! Nothing worse that a RETHUGLICON!

Major Nikon

(36,851 posts)
7. Judges are elected in Texas
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 07:32 PM
Dec 2023

Fortunately Travis county is a democrat stronghold (Austin), so the woman at least stands a chance of not getting a forced birther judge.

walkingman

(7,888 posts)
8. Texas gets more backwards by the day. The only cure is for more people to vote.
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 07:37 PM
Dec 2023

Until then we have to tolerate the Gov., Lt. Gov., AG and most of the State Legislature.

Sorry bastards.

Lonestarblue

(10,516 posts)
10. Exactly what Texas wants--right-wing legislatures and judges making women's medical decisions.
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 07:41 PM
Dec 2023

After all, everyone knows that pregnancy is perfectly natural and women never have any complications. If they die, it just God’s will or because she did something wrong and deserved to die. These people make me sick with their judgmental attitudes and their ignorance about pregnancy, which is actually quite dangerous for many women.

ShazzieB

(16,990 posts)
12. They also refuse to believe that there is such a thing as a fetal anomaly that amounts to a death sentenece. 😡
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 08:08 PM
Dec 2023

And besides, there is always the possibility of a miracle, so we must always "choose life" and let the lord decide!

God, these people make me sick with their warped, twisted, convoluted, so-called "reasoning"!

Warpy

(111,805 posts)
11. Well, they don't care about the kid
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 07:47 PM
Dec 2023

They care about punishing her for sex, doesn't matter if she was married.

That's how these men think.

slightlv

(3,143 posts)
19. She wasn't married to the "right kind" of man...
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 10:16 PM
Dec 2023

he is probably a democrat. We already have less rights just by virtue of that designation... they just haven't codified it (yet).

jaxexpat

(7,058 posts)
13. And so it begins.
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 08:11 PM
Dec 2023

The horror of a police state with all it's oppressive invasions of privacy, the very thing the GOP claims to be such a left wing threat, the very thing they have stupidly planted, begins to bloom.

CTyankee

(64,035 posts)
17. I read a fewmonths ago about women pilots who were doing just that: flying women to abortion access states from
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 09:19 PM
Dec 2023

anti-choice states.

Bev54

(10,190 posts)
15. This is sick, forcing a woman to go to court to ask a judge to make a medical decision.
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 08:25 PM
Dec 2023

Absolutely sick and disgusting that in the US this is made to happen.

Novara

(5,945 posts)
16. As if abortion was never legal in the first place
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 08:56 PM
Dec 2023

This is what happened pre-1973.

I'm betting the judge won't allow it. Judges are not doctors but some think they're God.

Kablooie

(18,673 posts)
21. It's about controlling women, not about logic or humanity.
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 10:50 PM
Dec 2023

Your feelings are of no importance, so I will force you to suffer to demonstrate my power over you.

dlk

(11,702 posts)
22. This is about Republican dedication to the subjugation of women
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 11:08 PM
Dec 2023

Imagine, in 2023, an adult woman having to beg a court to receive necessary medical care. It's worse than third world. Republicans truly are the women-haters party.

BOSSHOG

(37,396 posts)
23. SIXTH GRADER ASKS JUDGE
Tue Dec 5, 2023, 11:35 PM
Dec 2023

not to let bad guy with AR 15 slaughter him and his classmates. Judge weighs the political implications of his ruling. The 6th grader and some of his classmates are slaughtered. Republicans gather for a prayer vigil. Thoughts and prayers overwhelm the county. And the band played on.

electric_blue68

(15,386 posts)
25. Patriarchal pigs! That poor woman!
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 12:10 AM
Dec 2023
Someday waaay more men, and many more of the minority of women who go along with them will see women, or themselves as people first!

Hopefully I'll live cogently long enough to see some shift beyond a paltry percentage. 👍

niyad

(115,029 posts)
26. And the PATRIARCHAL WAR ON WOMEN continues apace. NO woman should
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 01:29 AM
Dec 2023

EVER have to beg for "PERMISSION" to save her own life. Especially not from some non-medical, christofascist, woman-hating enforcer, not of laws, but of beliefs.

Bayard

(22,593 posts)
27. Right to life...
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 02:11 AM
Dec 2023

This baby will never have a life. But rethuglicans insist on risking the mother's life anyway.

That being said, with this woman's medical history, why did she get pregnant?

Old Crank

(3,864 posts)
28. Time to flood the courts
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 02:31 AM
Dec 2023

With emergency petitions.
Any fetal issue at all. Emergency petitions.
Any question about a pregnancy..

LaMouffette

(2,049 posts)
32. The right thinks this is perfectly reasonable. But just think how they would howl if, to purchase an AK-47,
Wed Dec 6, 2023, 08:25 AM
Dec 2023

they had to go before a judge to have him/her decide whether they really needed that AK-47, and additionally, if they had to go to counseling to determine if they were psychologically healthy enough to own an AK-47, and also, if they had to watch videos of children being killed in mass shootings before being allowed to purchase an AK-47.

And imagine if there were protesters outside of every gun shop and every gun show, screaming, "BABY KILLER! SHAME! SHAME! SHAME!" at everyone walking out with their new AK-47.

Hmm . . . it actually makes a hell of a lot more sense to treat AK-47 purchasers this way, at least to me, than it does to subject women seeking abortions to the additional trauma of having to seek approval from a judge, whose opinion will undoubtedly be influenced by his/her religious beliefs on the matter.




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