Shohei Ohtani to join Dodgers on 10-year, $700M contract
Source: ESPN
Ohtani posted to Instagram on Saturday saying he would play for his former team's crosstown rival starting next season after spending six seasons with the Los Angeles Angels.
"I pledge to always do what's best for the team and always continue to give it my all to be the best version of myself. Until the last day of my playing career, I want to continue to strive forward not only for the Dodgers but for the baseball world," Ohtani wrote.
Read more: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39076745/shohei-ohtani-join-dodgers-10-year-700m-deal
This is a historic contract in US professional sports and is a valid LBN subject.
brush
(61,033 posts)It was estimated he go for about 600k for 5-6 years.
Roy Rolling
(7,626 posts)Do the LA Dodgers gave enough to pay $700 million?
Or will a $700 million salary to one player force the Dodger franchises current prices to immediately go up?
Its business. But as a baseball fan, I hate the business of sport/entertainment/bad entertainment.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)It's the biggest media market in the country.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)Though I'd be really curious as to whether they genuinely tried. They certainly wanted the fans to think so.
bahboo
(16,953 posts)too many holes to fill to put all your resources into one player.
303squadron
(813 posts)Not getting what you want, and getting what you want. "
Most studies of peak performance/age in baseball, including one by Bill James indicated that optimal age is 29. After that, baseball skills start to decline.
Ohtani is 29. Without pitching he won't produce 10 WAR a year like 2023 and by the time he comes back to the mound he'll be pushing 31.
The general manager in my head is challenged by this decision!
C Moon
(13,629 posts)JoseBalow
(9,451 posts)This person will be making more than that per second, every second...
$700,000,000 for 10 years
$70,000,000 per year
$5,833,333 per month
$1,346,153 per week
$191,780 per day
$7,991 per hour
$133 per minute
$2.22 per second

Have a nice day
Whilex
(13 posts)The fact that a guy receives that amount of money for hitting a ball with a stick, seems totally fair to them.
It doesnt occur to them to compare the salaries of nurses and teachers and rescue workers and other essential individuals to this guy hitting the ball with a stick.
Sal_NV
(606 posts)don't know the intricacies of baseball.
You really think that's all there is to baseball?
You are wholly uninformed if that's what you believe.
Whilex
(13 posts)Comprehension and fairness are not the same, buddy.
A guy hitting a bong with a stick, making $700 million is not fair no matter how many times I read the intricacies of baseball and understand it fully.
Knowing the mechanism whereby a guy hitting a ball with a stick makes $700 million doesnt make it a fair salary.
Sal_NV
(606 posts)were vying for his talent.
Torchlight
(6,792 posts)is made when an argument relies on public opinion to determine what is true, right, or good.
The more we know.
niyad
(132,223 posts)democrank
(12,587 posts)Almost $192,000.00 per day? An obscene amount.
Calista241
(5,633 posts)37% in income tax to the Feds.
12.3% in CA state income tax.
Thats before he pays any property taxes.
If theres one thing our government can do with near 100% effectiveness, is make sure W2 employees pay all their taxes. Im not saying he isnt obscenely rich, but hes not as rich as you think.
Javaman
(65,685 posts)350 million(after taxes) is still ridiculous
We are so fucked as a civilization.
We pay people obscene amounts to celebrities and sport stars. But we pay the people that educate our children shit wages.
speak easy
(12,597 posts)Who has made an estimated $2 Billion over 13 years including the proceeds of onselling Taylor Swifts back catalog? Funny how we resent flesh and blood salaries, but not the leeches sucking it up.
Javaman
(65,685 posts)I'm a pround Democratic Socialist.
Anyone one making that kind of money should be taxed to with an inch of their income.
we live in a obscene state of disparity. and those who could change things willfully sit on their hands because they are also part of the gilded nouveau rich.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Dude going to spend a lot of time clipping coupons.
Sal_NV
(606 posts)so if the Dodgers are playing the NY Mets in NY, he has to pay NY state taxes.
https://www.jacksonhewitt.com/tax-help/jh-tax-talk/do-baseball-players-pay-state-taxes/
A baseball player gets a W-2 for every state where he played during the season, showing taxable income and withholding. Just like any other job.
The jock tax
A baseball player pays income taxes not only in the state where he lives but in every state where he plays. But, since he doesnt pay taxes twice on the same money, hell file a non-resident return for all those states and claim a credit from each state, to reduce the amount he owes to the state where he lives. This so-called jock tax has been around since the 1960s and, as you might guess, has never been very popular with players.
Calista241
(5,633 posts)So if they play a 3 game series in NY, he pays the NY state 10.9% income tax on 3 days worth of pay.
If his next 3 game series is in Atlanta, hell have to pay the 5.75% Georgia income tax on 3 days worth of pay.
Sal_NV
(606 posts)DarthDem
(5,461 posts)As your link shows. So it's not really a "plus" situation.
C Moon
(13,629 posts)Mosby
(19,491 posts)Hard to believe people still watch.
No more so than any other professional sport.
Mosby
(19,491 posts)You can't just buy a championship.
Calista241
(5,633 posts)Owners just have to pay a luxury tax if their player payroll is too high.
You prefer ownership to control wages?
ificandream
(11,836 posts)He's coming off his second UCL sprain. They're crazy to give him all that money.
lonely bird
(2,932 posts)It is heavily backloaded and deferred.
The Dodgers wont suffer. Dodger fans will. A friend thinks that this will lead to more H.S. and college kids demanding to pitch along with playing the field or DHing.
jmowreader
(53,166 posts)With him on the team, their advertising rates go up.
Another thing to consider is broadcast rights in Japan. The Japanese baseball fan LOVES Shohei Ohtani. The Dodgers know this and will ink a very lucrative Japanese broadcast contract.
Tikki
(15,133 posts)The Chavez Ravine Stadium setting is breathtakingly beautiful.
If the team ever needs to expand the Stadium, I hope they will be able to do so on site.
We will see if it will be possible to get tickets early on this coming Season.
The Tikkis
First Speaker
(4,858 posts)Gore1FL
(22,949 posts)Gotta love Reagan.
usonian
(25,112 posts)∙ Every MLB first starting pitcher.
∙ Aaron Judge
∙ Mike Trout
∙ Tesla Motors
∙ The State of Arizona, and
∙ Amtrak
I'll report back when I find out.
bucolic_frolic
(55,044 posts)As a designated hitter, 4 at bats per game, $107,000 per at bat, maybe $30,000 per swing.
Magoo48
(6,720 posts)Ive loved baseball since I was a 10-year-old kid in 1958 and began listening to Vince Scully announce ballgames on the radio. I bleed Dodger blue. The money is what it is, and folks like me derive great pleasure the game.
Obscene money expenditures that dont bring me pleasure:
Corporate CEO and upper management pay.
Military spending and MIC investment in killing and death.
The massive cruise industry which pollutes our Ocean.
The insane fossil fuels industry, and other extraction capitalism, killing our planet
twodogsbarking
(18,693 posts)flashman13
(2,378 posts)No wonder baseball is failing.
Sal_NV
(606 posts)Don't think so..
The total attendance of 70,747,365 in 2023 was a gain of over 6 million fans from 2022, when total attendance was 64,556,658.Oct 2, 2023
Good for Ohtani getting such a good contract.
Whilex
(13 posts)Now we congratulate them for getting a raise and becoming 0.5 percenters.
Times change I guess.
Sal_NV
(606 posts)and talent, which Ohtani has done.
My problem is those that didn't earn their millions through their hard work and talent.
Ohtani is, in my opinion, worth every penny the Dodgers are paying him, although I do confess that my two favorite teams are the LA Angels and the LA Dodgers.
flashman13
(2,378 posts)These numbers pertain to the (U.S.) World Series:
In 2023 the average viewership on TV was 9.95 million
In 2001 the average viewership on TV was 24.5 million
In 1980 the average viewership on TV was 42.3 million
In 2023 the U.S. population is 332 million
In 2001 the U.S. population was 285 million
In 1980 the U.S. population is 226 million
Therefore:
Between 2001 and 2023 the population grew by 16.5% while viewership dropped by 60%
Between 2001 and 1980 the population grew by 47% while viewership dropped by 76.5%
Those numbers tell me baseball is failing. And BTW, TV revenue is also crashing. The only alternative is to raise in person ticket prices thus driving more average fans from the parks.
flashman13
(2,378 posts)signed a contract with the Yankees for $100,000 per season. Taking inflation in account that is roughly $1,000,000. Ohtani will be paid $70,000,000 per season (assuming he lasts long enough to collect it all).
Do you think Ohtani is 70 times better than Mantle? I don't.
Sal_NV
(606 posts)Yes, I do.
Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Highest paid by far. Outside of American football, foreign born players are the best in their sports, NBA, NHL, and MLB.
I think that says something.
Whilex
(13 posts)Its the world we live in unfortunately
Sal_NV
(606 posts)Yavin4
(37,182 posts)The best athletes in the world across multiple sports are not American. The same is also true for the better actors in the world.
Jose Garcia
(3,499 posts)Yavin4
(37,182 posts)Most immigrants (not counting migrants and the undocumented) who come here today are not poo and down trodden. They're a lot like Ohtani, super talented and already successful.
Initech
(108,690 posts)Fuck Arte Moreno. The sooner he rids the world of his evil existence, the better.
When the Angels play the Dodgers in inter league play, I always root for the Angels.
Initech
(108,690 posts)I never feared for my life more than I did that night. I straight up thought I was going to be murdered that night. Dodgers fans aren't exactly the most welcoming fans in the MLB.
miyazaki
(2,646 posts)Angel Stadium on the other hand, great.
IcyPeas
(25,438 posts)It's like famous paintings that go for millions...it's worth whatever one is willing to pay I guess.
I don't follow sports... any sports, so I don't understand why someone is worth that much.
Corporate sponsors and marketing have taken over everything.
If only teachers could get corporate sponsors.
Jacson6
(1,986 posts)I was six then. I thought that was absurd when my family lived off of a thousand a month. We need to bring back the 90% tax for those that earn more then ten million a year.
Jacson6
(1,986 posts)Yavin4
(37,182 posts)And we have Niki Haley getting praise for calling for extending the SS retirement age for young people!
Owl
(3,767 posts)This should be obviously plain to you as the nose at the end of your face. This proves President Biden's economy is failing us all (yuck yuck). Don't forget that the two individuals running the corporation are trump supporters, financially and vote wise. These people want more money that is why they want trump in charge. Imagine spending one hundredth of that money on the people who keep the stadium running.
Stuart G
(38,726 posts)(if given to some ....FOOD SHELTERS ...around the country in large cities & towns............how many people would that money feed?}