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mahatmakanejeeves

(69,854 posts)
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 12:27 PM Dec 2023

The mystery of the missing binder: How a collection of raw Russian intelligence disappeared under Trump

Last edited Fri Dec 15, 2023, 03:32 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNN

The mystery of the missing binder: How a collection of raw Russian intelligence disappeared under Trump

By Jeremy Herb, Katie Bo Lillis, Natasha Bertrand, Evan Perez and Zachary Cohen, CNN

December 15, 2023

Washington (CNN) -- A binder containing highly classified information related to Russian election interference went missing at the end of Donald Trump's presidency, raising alarms among intelligence officials that some of the most closely guarded national security secrets from the US and its allies could be exposed, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

Its disappearance, which has not been previously reported, was so concerning that intelligence officials briefed Senate Intelligence Committee leaders last year about the missing materials and the government's efforts to retrieve them, the sources said. ... In the two-plus years since Trump left office, the missing intelligence does not appear to have been found.

The binder contained raw intelligence the US and its NATO allies collected on Russians and Russian agents, including sources and methods that informed the US government's assessment that Russian President Vladimir Putin sought to help Trump win the 2016 election, sources tell CNN. ... The intelligence was so sensitive that lawmakers and congressional aides with top secret security clearances were able to review the material only at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia, where their work scrutinizing it was itself kept in a locked safe.

The binder was last seen at the White House during Trump's final days in office. The former president had ordered it brought there so he could declassify a host of documents related to the FBI's Russia investigation. Under the care of then-White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, the binder was scoured by Republican aides working to redact the most sensitive information so it could be declassified and released publicly.

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Read more: https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2023/12/politics/missing-russia-intelligence-trump-dg/



Hat tip, various sources online. I see that kpete had the story in GD at 9:21 a.m.:

Binder of Russian Intelligence Went Missing Under Trump

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218528357

You should really take up the discussion over there, as he has a huge head start. I might ask an LBN forum host to lock this thread.

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Also, Joe.My.God.

Binder Of Russian Intel "Disappeared" Under Trump
December 15, 2023

https://www.joemygod.com/2023/12/binder-of-russian-intel-disappeared-under-trump/
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The mystery of the missing binder: How a collection of raw Russian intelligence disappeared under Trump (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2023 OP
Jared probably has it. LiberalFighter Dec 2023 #1
Had it. Hot potato so he probably forwarded it as fast as he could Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #9
Just more of Red Don's Maga Lardo Malfeasance Blue Owl Dec 2023 #2
Stealing evidence against you underpants Dec 2023 #3
Do the Russians now know how to change their methods of interference in 2024? Captain Zero Dec 2023 #12
I'll just bet you that Jack Smith knows where it went. flying_wahini Dec 2023 #4
Rand Paul: 2018. But Ivana Trump was buried weeks before the search of Mar a Lago Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2023 #10
If this is true EndlessWire Dec 2023 #5
What did the binder prove? Stuart G Dec 2023 #6
Several of our "sources" gab13by13 Dec 2023 #7
Let's put it this way ExWhoDoesntCare Dec 2023 #24
Keep in mind ScratchCat Dec 2023 #8
Ask Putin where it is. republianmushroom Dec 2023 #11
Keith Olbermann put out a bulletin edition of his Countdown podcast about this today. ificandream Dec 2023 #13
CNN Video report ificandream Dec 2023 #14
traitortrump still walks free. Putin still wants us to end aid to Ukraine. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #15
Isn't this folder his responsibility? Owens Dec 2023 #16
Help me, I'm stupid! BaronChocula Dec 2023 #17
"A binder containing highly classified information...went missing at the end of Donald Trump's presidency," LudwigPastorius Dec 2023 #18
There was a mentality in the Trump administration of being frivolous with the country's most sensitive national secrets. LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #19
Perhaps in... 2naSalit Dec 2023 #20
K and R for exposre. I wonder if anyone can prove it was Trump who made this disappear. Stuart G Dec 2023 #21
What a coincidence! Trump fired the Russia counterintelligence team. Kid Berwyn Dec 2023 #22
Joe Biden has been around a very long time. Joe has another very smart person on his side : a fellow named Barack Obama Stuart G Dec 2023 #23
How many sources did the US lose due to TFG? LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #25

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
9. Had it. Hot potato so he probably forwarded it as fast as he could
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 02:31 PM
Dec 2023

If he had it, of course. I don't know all the facts, so just speculating on this point.

Captain Zero

(8,905 posts)
12. Do the Russians now know how to change their methods of interference in 2024?
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 03:17 PM
Dec 2023

What I think may be compromised is the Russians now know how they were tracked interfering in our previous elections and they will now change their methods for 2024.

I think trump got this file back to them so they can avoid how they have been caught before.
Trump is a fucker.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
10. Rand Paul: 2018. But Ivana Trump was buried weeks before the search of Mar a Lago
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 02:46 PM
Dec 2023

Article is clear that the document went missing near the end of tRump's term.

Ivana Trump was buried at the rump's Bedminster golf course on or around July 20, 2022.
The search of Mar a Lago for classified documents was August 8, 2022.
Bedminster has never beeen searched.



Picture is a year later and has been verified accurate.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
5. If this is true
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 12:46 PM
Dec 2023

this creep should be jailed. A second Presidency?? OMG. He'll probably rent out gangs of slave labor. This is a guy selling his used suits for money, a scrap at a time. He sells baseball cards with his face on them. He's selling "gold" bars with his likeness on them. GOK where our government secrets have ended up. Probably says, "Love from Donny" on them. Why don't the Repubs give a damn what happens to our country??

Go, Jack, go!

gab13by13

(32,324 posts)
7. Several of our "sources"
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 01:01 PM
Dec 2023

went missing after Trump became president.

How can anyone prove that Trump got our assets killed, but how can we say that he did not?

I listened to Miles Taylor state the same thing.

 

ExWhoDoesntCare

(4,741 posts)
24. Let's put it this way
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 01:19 PM
Dec 2023

If the binder had contained info favorable for him, he would have not only sent copies of it to every news outlet in the world, but also mailed them to every US citizen.

ScratchCat

(2,740 posts)
8. Keep in mind
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 01:10 PM
Dec 2023

By all indications and reports, Jack Smith has other Grand Juries still active. Everyone thinks its about the stuff he took to Bedminister. Its obvious that he committed crimes with these documents that can be charged in a jurisdiction other than in the Florida Circuit. I believe they have other things in their back pocket JIC Cannon screws with the charges in front of her. Maybe they have an "October Surprise" they are going to spring a bit sooner?

I'll say this again: There is NO possible way they went forward with these charges against Trump if there was any way he could find his way back to the Oval Office. No. Possible. Way. They have been guaranteed he will not be the nominee. The Koch's, Mercer's, Addelson, etc are not throwing away Billions on a criminal con man who will do nothing but destroy this country and destabilize the entire world. There is no upside. Nikki Halley or Chris Christie will nominate the same judges, sign the same tax cuts and do all the same things the right wing wants out of a POTUS and wont be under the sway of foreign dictators.

republianmushroom

(22,326 posts)
11. Ask Putin where it is.
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 03:13 PM
Dec 2023

And some people in the DoJ were reluctant and didn't want to search Mar-a-largo. go figure.

BaronChocula

(4,555 posts)
17. Help me, I'm stupid!
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 03:48 PM
Dec 2023

I don't know whether to vote for the guy who respects protocols for our nation's biggest secrets or the guy who steals classified documents.

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
18. "A binder containing highly classified information...went missing at the end of Donald Trump's presidency,"
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 05:15 PM
Dec 2023

Have they checked here?

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
19. There was a mentality in the Trump administration of being frivolous with the country's most sensitive national secrets.
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 06:26 PM
Dec 2023

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
22. What a coincidence! Trump fired the Russia counterintelligence team.
Fri Dec 15, 2023, 11:19 PM
Dec 2023

Trump FIRED entire FBI counterespionage team a few years back:



Trump’s Top Targets in the Russia Probe Are Experts in Organized Crime

Some of President Trump’s favorite targets in the Russia probe have spent their careers in the Justice Department and the FBI investigating organized crime and money laundering, particularly as they pertain to Russia.


NATASHA BERTRAND
The Atlantic, AUG 30, 2018

Bruce Ohr. Lisa Page. Andrew Weissmann. Andrew McCabe. President Donald Trump has relentlessly attacked these FBI and Justice Department officials as dishonest “Democrats” engaged in a partisan “witch hunt” led by the special counsel determined to tie his campaign to Russia. But Trump’s attacks have also served to highlight another thread among these officials and others who have investigated his campaign: their extensive experience in probing money laundering and organized crime, particularly as they pertain to Russia.

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Trump’s latest obsession is with Bruce Ohr, a career Justice Department official who spent years investigating Russian organized crime and corruption—an expertise he shared with another Trump target named Christopher Steele, the former British intelligence operative who provided valuable intelligence on Russia to the State Department and the FBI’s Eurasian Organized Crime Task Force prior to authoring the Trump-Russia dossier in 2016. Ohr and Steele met in 2007, according to The New York Times, and stayed in touch as a result of their shared interests and mutual respect. Trump has tweeted about Ohr nearly a dozen times this month alone, complaining about his relationship with Steele and Ohr’s wife’s past work for Fusion GPS—the opposition-research firm that hired Steele in 2016 to research Trump’s Russia ties.

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Trump’s fixation with seeing Ohr ousted from the Justice Department could be perceived as yet another attempt to undermine the credibility of the people who have investigated him. It could also be interpreted as an attack on someone with deep knowledge of the shady characters Trump and his cohort have been linked to, including Semion Mogilevich, the Russian mob boss, and Oleg Deripaska, a Russian aluminum magnate close to Putin who did business with Trump’s former campaign chairman Paul Manafort. (Incidentally, another Manafort associate, the Ukrainian billionaire Dmitry Firtash, admitted that he only managed to be in business because Mogilevich allowed him to be, according to a leaked 2008 State Department cable.) Ohr was involved in banning Deripaska from the U.S. in 2006, due to his alleged ties to organized crime and fear that he would try to launder money into American real estate. Nearly a decade later, Ohr and the FBI sought Deripaska’s help in taking down overseas criminal syndicates.

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The president has denied having any business ties to Russia, and his dream of building a Trump Tower Moscow never materialized. But his links to Russian oligarchs and mobsters from the former Soviet Union have been documented: Millions of dollars from the former Soviet Union flowed into Trump’s developments and casinos throughout the 1990s, as the journalist Craig Unger has chronicled, as oligarchs looked for a place to hide their money in the West. The Trump Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, New Jersey, was once known as a hot spot for Brooklyn mobsters associated with the Russian Mafia, and quickly became the “favorite East Coast destination” of the top Russian mob boss Vyacheslav Ivankov, according to the 2000 book Red Mafiya: How the Russian Mob Has Invaded America. It was also repeatedly cited by the Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network for having inadequate money-laundering controls.

Continues...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/trumps-top-targets-in-the-russia-probe-are-experts-in-organized-crime/569056/



Never forget: as PRESIDENT Trump targeted the FBI Witch Hunters who were tracking Putin and his Mafiya.

Stuart G

(38,726 posts)
23. Joe Biden has been around a very long time. Joe has another very smart person on his side : a fellow named Barack Obama
Sat Dec 16, 2023, 10:07 AM
Dec 2023

The two have a team of brilliant people on their side. That team will figure out how to get Trump, and how to
prove Trump did what he did. (my opinion only)

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