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mahatmakanejeeves

(69,854 posts)
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 04:08 PM Dec 2023

Judge issues order keeping Confederate memorial at Arlington Cemetery for now

Source: Associated Press via the Washington Post

Judge issues order keeping Confederate memorial at Arlington Cemetery for now

By Matthew Barakat * AP
December 18, 2023 at 3:04 p.m. EST



(Kevin Wolf/FR33460 AP)

FALLS CHURCH, Va. -- A federal judge on Monday issued a temporary restraining order barring removal of a memorial to Confederate soldiers at Arlington National Cemetery.

A group called Defend Arlington, affiliated with a group called Save Southern Heritage Florida, filed a lawsuit Sunday in federal court in Alexandria, Virginia, seeking the restraining order. A hearing has been scheduled for Wednesday.

Work to remove the memorial had begun Monday before the restraining order was issued, but the memorial remains in place on cemetery grounds. ... A cemetery spokesperson said Monday that Arlington is complying with the restraining order, but referred all other questions to the Justice Department.

The cemetery had said on Friday that it expected to complete the removal this week. It said the removal was required by Congress, and that it was complying with environmental and historic-preservation regulations.

{snip}

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Freelance photographer Kevin Wolf contributed to this report from Arlington.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2023/12/18/confederate-memorial-arlington-cemetery-restraining-order/c6c886d0-9dcc-11ee-9e0f-972979a6c22b_story.html



Hat tip, Joe.My.God.

Trump Judge Halts Removal Of Confederate Memorial
December 18, 2023

https://www.joemygod.com/2023/12/trump-judge-halts-removal-of-confederate-memorial/

U.S. NEWS
Judge issues order keeping Confederate memorial at Arlington Cemetery for now
BY MATTHEW BARAKAT
Updated 2:49 PM EST, December 18, 2023

https://apnews.com/article/confederate-memorial-arlington-cemetery-restraining-order-65a00f0e3b49b22547059ee021ec3e82
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Judge issues order keeping Confederate memorial at Arlington Cemetery for now (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2023 OP
Those who lose wars do not dictate terms. GreenWave Dec 2023 #1
Merde. Girard442 Dec 2023 #2
"Save Southern Heritage Florida" TwilightZone Dec 2023 #3
Gah, could they BE more obvious? Novara Dec 2023 #10
And How, Exactly... GB_RN Dec 2023 #12
The Florida group is only one of a number of plaintiffs onenote Dec 2023 #19
Go there and place a white flag on a pole with the statue rpannier Dec 2023 #15
Fantastic idea, every Confederate monument everywhere should have one KS Toronado Dec 2023 #21
Traitor to the USA BlueKota Dec 2023 #25
"DON'T FOLLOW US.....WE'RE LOSERS" would be nice. KS Toronado Dec 2023 #29
I like both those options BlueKota Dec 2023 #30
The bumper stickers throughout Mississippi 20+ years ago BOSSHOG Dec 2023 #26
Anti-American judge who is a secret racist perhaps? ZonkerHarris Dec 2023 #4
Judge Rossie Alston: Tanuki Dec 2023 #23
did not see that coming ZonkerHarris Dec 2023 #24
What is their standing in bringing the lawsuit? Ray Bruns Dec 2023 #5
That Was Exactly... GB_RN Dec 2023 #13
See post #19 onenote Dec 2023 #20
Gee, l wonder Griefbird Dec 2023 #6
Judge Rossie Alston is a trump judge PSPS Dec 2023 #7
That cemetery is already compromised by Kissinger's burial there. Pope on a Rope Dec 2023 #17
The TRO appears to be in place melm00se Dec 2023 #8
Well atreides1 Dec 2023 #11
He can't say melm00se Dec 2023 #22
Keep it there. Just bury it. Wonder Why Dec 2023 #9
That there is a monument there is ridiculous rpannier Dec 2023 #14
Maybe a little section for the worst Americans in US history. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #28
Those motherfuckers killed loyal American patriots Mysterian Dec 2023 #16
Oh ffs! This is getting ridiculous! nt LittleGirl Dec 2023 #18
They committed treason to keep slavery. Irish_Dem Dec 2023 #27

GB_RN

(3,560 posts)
12. And How, Exactly...
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 08:07 PM
Dec 2023

In the wide, wide world of fucks does a group of fascist fucknuts in Flori-duh even have standing on this?

I know I’m a cardiac RN and that IANAL, but I just don’t see it. A national chapter? maybe. But not a bunch of local yokels hoping to curry favor with Gov. Rhonda Santis. 😁

onenote

(46,142 posts)
19. The Florida group is only one of a number of plaintiffs
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 08:27 AM
Dec 2023
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.546980/gov.uscourts.vaed.546980.1.0.pdf


Moreover if a future republican administration ordered changes to the FDR or Martin Luther King Jr memorials or the extinguishing of the flame at JFK’s gravesite I don’t think that only residents of DC would have standing to challenge the decision.

KS Toronado

(23,727 posts)
21. Fantastic idea, every Confederate monument everywhere should have one
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 10:02 AM
Dec 2023

Remind people that they were LOSERS. There's a reason Germany/Italy/Japan don't allow
glorifying their past, we should follow their example.

BOSSHOG

(44,738 posts)
26. The bumper stickers throughout Mississippi 20+ years ago
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 10:04 PM
Dec 2023

HERITAGE, NOT HATE

Long before they decided trying to be almost polite.

Griefbird

(136 posts)
6. Gee, l wonder
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 05:08 PM
Dec 2023

How it is that removal of this statue is unconstitutional. Does that mean that all of the statues that have been removed under this order of Congress have to be returned to their original places as well? Some are blobs of bronze.

melm00se

(5,161 posts)
8. The TRO appears to be in place
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 05:21 PM
Dec 2023

until Wednesday when a hearing has been scheduled. The TRO makes sense as the work had already started.

It should be noted that the judge's comments in the order

"takes very seriously the representations of officers of the Court and should the representations in this case be untrue or exaggerated the Court may take appropriate sanctions."

may indicate that he may not be the most patient of judges.

atreides1

(16,799 posts)
11. Well
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 07:12 PM
Dec 2023

By saying "may take" he's giving them some leeway! If he had said...he would take appropriate sanctions, that would be a better indicator of how serious he was!

rpannier

(24,924 posts)
14. That there is a monument there is ridiculous
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 09:34 PM
Dec 2023

I wonder if there is a Martin J. Monti monument there?
Gonna honor one group of traitors, why not another?

Irish_Dem

(81,277 posts)
28. Maybe a little section for the worst Americans in US history.
Tue Dec 19, 2023, 10:08 PM
Dec 2023

Benedict Arnold
Joe McCarthy
Donald Trump
Richard Nixon
Lee Harvey Oswald

Mysterian

(6,486 posts)
16. Those motherfuckers killed loyal American patriots
Mon Dec 18, 2023, 10:33 PM
Dec 2023

Fuck this phony "heritage" group which is nothing but the KKK without robes. The memorial will be removed.

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