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LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 01:43 PM Dec 2023

Rudy Giuliani Files for Bankruptcy Protection After Court Loss

Source: Bloomberg Law

Rudolph Giuliani, the former mayor of New York who led efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, has filed for bankruptcy, swamped by legal bills stemming from his discredited campaign to keep Donald Trump in power.

Giuliani filed papers seeking protection from creditors in New York, listing debts of as much as $500 million and assets of up to $10 million. In December, he was ordered to pay $148 million to two 2020 Georgia election workers after promoting conspiracy theories about them.

He’s been defending himself in multiple courtrooms on matters ranging from criminal charges to civil defamation, running up millions of dollars in fees and expenses. As the costs mounted, Giuliani admitted in a civil case in early August that he was “having financial difficulties” and he asked a judge to put off some payments.

Legal woes for the former US prosecutor include an indictment in Georgia on charges of racketeering and conspiracy. He’s pleaded not guilty. Giuliani also was sued for defamation by voting software companies Dominion Voting Systems Inc. and Smartmatic Corp. over his false claims of election fraud.

Read more: https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/rudy-giuliani-files-for-bankruptcy-protection-after-court-loss

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Rudy Giuliani Files for Bankruptcy Protection After Court Loss (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 OP
He surely knows he cannot discharge the court-assigned liability from defamation in bankrupcy... hlthe2b Dec 2023 #1
Alex Jones has been furiously trying to do that BumRushDaShow Dec 2023 #5
Hook up with trump Turbineguy Dec 2023 #2
Yep, as its often been said, everything trump touches dies... brush Dec 2023 #6
"everything trump touches dies" Kennah Dec 2023 #37
Would that preclude him from having to pay the Georgia election workers? Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #3
No. Deliberate, malicious defamation is not dischargeable in bankruptcy. Qutzupalotl Dec 2023 #10
LOL. No Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #16
Many thanks... I guess he's just trying to escape the debts to his lawyers. Oopsie Daisy Dec 2023 #21
I knew that was going to happen BumRushDaShow Dec 2023 #4
Rudy Giuliani files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy in New York LetMyPeopleVote Dec 2023 #7
Let's have a moment of silence for the Rude Ghoul's troubles Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #8
I'll send him some tots but no pears. WhiteTara Dec 2023 #30
I'm sending clots and stairs Kennah Dec 2023 #39
you win!!! WhiteTara Dec 2023 #42
Send a batch to his master, traitortrump, too. Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2023 #45
I predict his lifestyle will not change at all n/t hibbing Dec 2023 #9
His debts are interesting melm00se Dec 2023 #11
He was ordered to IMMEDIATELY pay it Novara Dec 2023 #12
Only it's not dischargeable Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2023 #13
This buys him a very little time Prairie Gates Dec 2023 #17
It isn't dischargeable but it puts a halt to immediately paying it Novara Dec 2023 #25
it doesnt matter moonshinegnomie Dec 2023 #15
Intellectual bankruptcy? mahina Dec 2023 #14
Isn't trump a billionaire? LittleGirl Dec 2023 #18
America's Vagabond Pauper Mawspam2 Dec 2023 #19
Of Course He Did Deep State Witch Dec 2023 #20
I would suggest that he invest in a Powerball ticket rurallib Dec 2023 #22
There are billions of people on earth that lead honorable lives. Rudy, not. twodogsbarking Dec 2023 #23
I hope he has to pay some of the fines FredGarvin Dec 2023 #24
America's deadbeat C_U_L8R Dec 2023 #26
I hear Four Seasons landscaping is looking for part time help. Nt spooky3 Dec 2023 #27
You know you've hit rock bottom Shermann Dec 2023 #33
The Giuliani Legacy Blue Owl Dec 2023 #28
How will this court know what this lowlife is doing with his money? bluestarone Dec 2023 #29
$500 million sounds questionable isitreal Dec 2023 #31
I think this is a preview of what will happen to Chump in the next few years FakeNoose Dec 2023 #32
I'm hoping all he has to live on is Social Security and to survive starts voting against the repugs that want to cut it. MLAA Dec 2023 #34
That can possibly be garnished for the back taxes Shermann Dec 2023 #41
Excellent! MLAA Dec 2023 #44
Ruby and Shay's lawyers want to be paid too. They've got Rudy dancing now. GoodRaisin Dec 2023 #35
Nice try Rudy Toot Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2023 #36
79 years old. He coulda been sitting pretty in his $6 million Park Avenue condo. IcyPeas Dec 2023 #38
Just because he's an attorney TexasBushwhacker Dec 2023 #43
Can a creditor in Bankruptcy object to a Chapter 11? Mopar151 Dec 2023 #40
" The bankruptcy may not allow Giuliani to completely avoid paying the court judgments against him. Certain kinds of deb riversedge Dec 2023 #46
The bankruptcy won't shield him from the civil suit. live love laugh Dec 2023 #47

hlthe2b

(113,972 posts)
1. He surely knows he cannot discharge the court-assigned liability from defamation in bankrupcy...
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 01:45 PM
Dec 2023

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
5. Alex Jones has been furiously trying to do that
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 01:48 PM
Dec 2023

including (illegally) moving assets around. Guaranteed that Ghoul is doing the same (probably moving stuff to his son, et al).

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
6. Yep, as its often been said, everything trump touches dies...
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 01:54 PM
Dec 2023

or goes bankrupt in Rudy's case.

Assets of 10M and debts of 500M...now that's what I called being way beyond flat broke.

Even if he's hiding assets, no way is he hiding half a billion dollars.

Talk about poor management...even trump, he of the several bankruptcies himself, knew better than to appoint Rudy to a post in his admin.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
3. Would that preclude him from having to pay the Georgia election workers?
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 01:46 PM
Dec 2023

Is he now "off the hook"?

Qutzupalotl

(15,824 posts)
10. No. Deliberate, malicious defamation is not dischargeable in bankruptcy.
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 02:07 PM
Dec 2023

Not that he won't try. He just won't succeed.

BumRushDaShow

(169,761 posts)
4. I knew that was going to happen
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 01:47 PM
Dec 2023

He has suits and judgements galore (including from past lawyers trying to get paid), with more to come (e.g., the Dominion Software and Smartmatic cases).

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
8. Let's have a moment of silence for the Rude Ghoul's troubles
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 01:57 PM
Dec 2023

Ok, that's enough. Party on.


Next vicious traitortrump co-conspirator, please.

WhiteTara

(31,260 posts)
30. I'll send him some tots but no pears.
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 04:03 PM
Dec 2023

Those tots are stone cold. I'm with you...Let's party! and for Ruby and Shay

melm00se

(5,161 posts)
11. His debts are interesting
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 02:13 PM
Dec 2023

$1 million in taxes state and federal for 2021 and 2022.
$3.4 million in what looks like legal fees
several unresolved lawsuits so amount is unknown (a couple are from Dominion and Smartmatic)
the big daddy lawsuit
total is at least $151 million

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064/gov.uscourts.nysb.319064.1.0.pdf



Hassin Bin Sober

(27,461 posts)
13. Only it's not dischargeable
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 02:25 PM
Dec 2023

Maybe it can throw up a smokescreen that has to get cleared up in court?

Prairie Gates

(8,157 posts)
17. This buys him a very little time
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 02:47 PM
Dec 2023

The Freeman's lawyers are coming hard at him. He can bob and weave for a while, but it's going to touch him.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
25. It isn't dischargeable but it puts a halt to immediately paying it
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 03:55 PM
Dec 2023

So he's bought himself some time.

And the women still wait for justice.

moonshinegnomie

(4,022 posts)
15. it doesnt matter
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 02:39 PM
Dec 2023

under NY bankruptcy law he can keep
170k in equity in his house
4500 in equity in one car
11k in household goods
ira's and retirement plans

his 150m judgement fro defamation is not dischargable so even after he emerges from BK they can still go after him

mahina

(20,645 posts)
14. Intellectual bankruptcy?
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 02:29 PM
Dec 2023




It doesn’t work that way Rudy

I’m glad Shay and Lady Ruby got in there first before a bunch of others bound to come.

LittleGirl

(8,999 posts)
18. Isn't trump a billionaire?
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 02:51 PM
Dec 2023

He’s got plenty of money to give to Rudy! He’s rich!
What’s 150 million when you have a billion!? Right?

/s

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
33. You know you've hit rock bottom
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 04:14 PM
Dec 2023

Last edited Thu Dec 21, 2023, 06:06 PM - Edit history (1)

...when you do manual work for a landscaping company and your paycheck is garnished to pay back over $100 million.

No wait, rock bottom will be when the guy you sacrificed everything for then loses another election.

LOSER

bluestarone

(22,179 posts)
29. How will this court know what this lowlife is doing with his money?
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 04:03 PM
Dec 2023

I truly hope they get involved RIGHT NOW to watch this bastards money and what he;s doing with it. Plus anyone that helps him hide his money.

 

isitreal

(85 posts)
31. $500 million sounds questionable
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 04:06 PM
Dec 2023

$500 million is a lot of money. Is this an exaggeration to get sympathy?? I wana see an itemized list before I am willing to believe that amount. He has not told the truth about much so why would he for this.

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
32. I think this is a preview of what will happen to Chump in the next few years
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 04:14 PM
Dec 2023

Rudy will have nothing - NADA! - to leave his heirs, that's for sure.

He probably has assets some hidden away offshore, but not enough. He can sell properties but the money goes to Dominion and the Freemans. And he won't be out of trouble even after they've been paid in full. More lawsuits and legal difficulties are coming shortly.



MLAA

(19,745 posts)
34. I'm hoping all he has to live on is Social Security and to survive starts voting against the repugs that want to cut it.
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 04:20 PM
Dec 2023

Shermann

(9,062 posts)
41. That can possibly be garnished for the back taxes
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 06:09 PM
Dec 2023

Likely not for the defamation settlement though.

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
35. Ruby and Shay's lawyers want to be paid too. They've got Rudy dancing now.
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 04:20 PM
Dec 2023

They will be coming right up Giuliani’s asshole for the rest of his life. By the time they are finished with him he won’t be left with a box to shit in or a bottle to piss in.

Ruby and Shay ought to move in to his luxury pad.

IcyPeas

(25,475 posts)
38. 79 years old. He coulda been sitting pretty in his $6 million Park Avenue condo.
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 05:57 PM
Dec 2023

What did he hope to gain from hitching his wagon to Trump's caboose?

SMH



TexasBushwhacker

(21,204 posts)
43. Just because he's an attorney
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 06:48 PM
Dec 2023

doesn't mean he's smart about money. The listing on Zillow has already been dropped to $6.1 M (from $6.5 M) and just the HOA fees are almost $11K per month.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/45-E-66th-St-APT-10W-New-York-NY-10065/244903133_zpid/

Mopar151

(10,348 posts)
40. Can a creditor in Bankruptcy object to a Chapter 11?
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 06:06 PM
Dec 2023

What the hell does he have to "reorganize"? He should be in "full liquidation", with assets frozen! The Georgia ladies should be moving to seize his primary domicile, and all the household goods within, to satisfy the terms of their judgement. A couple hundred thousand might be chump change for Fox, DrunkRudy, or Trump, but it would mean a lot to people of modest means.

riversedge

(80,811 posts)
46. " The bankruptcy may not allow Giuliani to completely avoid paying the court judgments against him. Certain kinds of deb
Thu Dec 21, 2023, 11:36 PM
Dec 2023

Sounds like rudy will be living off only his social security. Maybe an efficiency?

...............Earlier in his career, Giuliani used federal anti-racketeering law to lock up mob bosses and police Wall Street insider trading when he served as US Attorney for the Southern District of New York in the 1980s. It helped vault him to the mayor’s office, and his leadership after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks won global acclaim. He sought the Republican presidential nomination himself in 2008.

He later joined Trump’s legal team and pushed discredited conspiracy theories in an attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election. Legal bills piled up, and his efforts to pay were crimped when his law license was suspended in New York State and in the District of Columbia. He subsequently faced disbarment proceedings.

The bankruptcy may not allow Giuliani to completely avoid paying the court judgments against him. Certain kinds of debts, like those related to intentional fraud, cannot be eliminated under the US Bankruptcy Code.


The case is Rudolph W. Giuliani, 23-12055, US Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York (Manhattan).
..........

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