Bayer wins latest Roundup cancer trial, ending losing streak

[BumRushDaShow]

Source: CNBC

Published Sat, Dec 23 2023 12:41 PM EST


Bayer has won a trial in a lawsuit brought by a California man who said he developed cancer from exposure to its Roundup weedkiller, ending what had been a five-trial losing streak for the company in trials over similar claims.

The verdict was handed down on Friday by a jury in San Benito County, California Superior Court, Bayer announced. The company said in a statement that the verdict was “consistent with the evidence in this case that Roundup does not cause cancer and is not responsible for the plaintiff’s illness.”

Lawyers for plaintiff Bruce Jones did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Like most plaintiffs in Roundup lawsuits, Jones alleged that the product caused him to develop a form of cancer called non-Hodgkin lymphoma. Around 165,000 claims have been made against the company for personal injuries allegedly caused by Roundup, which Bayer acquired as part of its $63 billion purchase of U.S. agrochemical company Monsanto in 2018.

Before its recent string of losses, which produced verdicts against the company totaling more than $2 billion, Bayer had won nine consecutive trials, meaning it has now won 10 of the last 15 trials. Further cases are expected to be tried in the coming year.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/12/23/bayer-wins-latest-roundup-cancer-trial-ending-losing-streak.html

[Ferrets are Cool]

1. If it doesn't cause lymphoma

Why have they paid out MILLIONS in damages?

[aka-chmeee]

2. Lawyers

Juries
Media

[eallen]

4. Math

In order to follow the arguments on that issue, one must know a bit about statistics. The vast majority do not. Jurors are not be screened on that basis. Which means such questions are ones where juries cannot perform well. They must decide between competing experts whose claims they don't understand.

[Martin68]

3. The demographic data alone proves the danger is all hype. Millions of people have used the product

over many decades. Why are there so few cases?

[Ferrets are Cool]

6. My wife is one of those "hyped" demographics

Her life has been destroyed because of lymphoma. Your post sickens me.

[Martin68]

8. I apologize for upsetting you, and I sympathize with you and your wife. With all the possible causes of cancers and

lymphoma in today’s world, how do you know RoundUp is the source of her lymphoma? How have you excluded all other possible causes? I never claimed that your wife is a “hyped demographic,” whatever that is supposed to mean. My point is that the demographics over decades for users of RoundUp suggest there probably are different causes for illnesses being blamed on RoundUp.

[NickB79]

12. I'm on the fence, personally

I can see your point, that NHL is still a pretty rare cancer to contract. And as such, it's hard to say any specific case was caused directly by glyphosate exposure.

On the other hand, when you search for NHL rates by state, you do see a concerning trend that states in the Midwest, where glyphosate is used liberally on crops, have a noticeably higher prevalence than non-agricultural states, or states that do more ranching vs row crops.

But then on the other, other hand, when you search for NHL rates by nation, you see a few states that use much less glyphosate than the US having higher NHL rates as well.

All I know is that I use glyphosate VERY sparingly, for very specific purposes I can't do any other way. For example, I had to kill off another 1000 sq ft of lawn last fall to expand my native prairie restoration. I used one application of glyphosate, tarped it for a month to cook any seeds in the soil, and then seeded in. Same with killing invasive buckthorn and honeysuckle shrubs in the woods: cut, paint the stump (while wearing gloves), and move on.

[Novara]

5. You should be asking yourself about the outlier

They previously lost five cases except this one. Five to one that their product poisons people is pretty compelling.

Link Between Glyphosate and Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma

snip............

A more recent study conducted in 2021 linked glyphosate to an increased risk of NHL. According to this study, exposure to glyphosate has a 41% risk of causing mutations in human chromosomes, which can lead to NHL. Furthermore, the risk is higher in people who have been exposed to higher levels of glyphosate for a longer period of time.

It's NOT a safe product. They've known about this for years. And Monsanto threw everything they could against being sued and they still lost five cases and won only one.

There is a ton of data and a lot of studies showing the risks.

[Ferrets are Cool]

7. Thank you for your post

[Novara]

11. You're welcome

Facts are facts. And an outlier should be treated as such.

[Martin68]

13. One legal case won after 5 were won does not qualify in the scientific sense as an "outlier. Legal cases are not decided

using the scientific method. Juries, judges, and lawyers do not decide scientific questions. Only the scientific community can do that, and they have not proven a scientific link between the use of glyphosate and NHL. I’m not expressing an opinion. I am trying to be objectively scientific about the question.

[Mosby]

9. Civil juries can't confirm scientific theories or causal relationships.

They determine whether the evidence presented to them demonstrates liability on the part of the defendent.

Their findings are dependent on the information they are given, within the guidelines that the courts require.

[Martin68]

10. The article at the link is a summary of research at a different link. The research it summarizes was

not a study of the effects of glyphosate. It was a “…review…of the relevant scientific literature linking exposure to glyphosate and GBFs to the development of NHL.” In other words, the authors selectively read only studies that purported to find a link to a particular disease, ignoring any study that found no connection between the disease and the use of glyphosate. So it was neither a study, nor an objective review of the literature on the subject. Here is a link to the actual paper:

https://www.clinical-lymphoma-myeloma-leukemia.com/article/S2152-2650(21)00151-8/fulltext

Billions of people have been exposed to the product, either directly or indirectly over the last 50 years. The vast majority of the research (over 20,000) papers) has failed to find any direct link to cancer due to the use of glyphosate. Once again, my point about the demographic data is that millions more cases of lymphoma and other diseases should be prevalent in the entire world population if glyphoste exposure is indeed a significant cause of disease.