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Kennah

(14,578 posts)
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:13 PM Jan 2024

Iran Sends Warship to Red Sea After US Sinks Houthi Boats

Source: Bloomberg

Iran dispatched a warship to the Red Sea after the US Navy destroyed three Houthi boats, a move that risks ratcheting up tensions and complicates Washington’s goal of securing a waterway that’s vital to global trade.

The Alborz destroyer traversed the Bab El-Mandeb strait, a narrow choke point between the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden, on Monday, Iranian state media said without providing further information on the vessel’s mission.

Iran’s foray into the Red Sea a day after the US action compounds a highly volatile situation in the channel that handles about 12% of the world’s commerce. The move could be seen as a challenge to the US-led maritime task force established last month to halt attacks on ships by the Tehran-backed Houthi rebels who control a swath of Yemen’s northwest, including the capital Sanaa and the Red Sea port of Al-Hudaydah.

A Houthi delegation met with officials in Tehran after the US killed several members of the militant group during an attack on a Danish-owned container ship. AP Moller-Maersk A/S suspended all Red Sea transit for 48 hours to assess the situation.

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-01-01/iran-dispatches-warship-to-red-sea-after-us-sinks-houthi-boats



Iran is going to soon have a new submarine
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Iran Sends Warship to Red Sea After US Sinks Houthi Boats (Original Post) Kennah Jan 2024 OP
I'm sure the US Navy is terrified. Elessar Zappa Jan 2024 #1
True Kennah Jan 2024 #2
Don't make us nocoincidences Jan 2024 #3
I predict one of the other carriers in Norfolk is going to head out within the next few weeks. Kennah Jan 2024 #4
The Ike strike group nocoincidences Jan 2024 #6
CVN-75 Harry S Truman is in Norfolk Kennah Jan 2024 #7
All the others except Ike & Ford and in/near major US navy ports. Angleae Jan 2024 #23
Incredibly generous to call it a "destroyer" FBaggins Jan 2024 #5
It will soon be a Destroyed Kennah Jan 2024 #8
I wondered about that too. Since when does Iran have a destroyer. brush Jan 2024 #9
They had four very nice ones on the way prior to the revolution FBaggins Jan 2024 #12
"Now they're the heart of the Taiwanese navy." brush Jan 2024 #14
Iran was our ally in the 70s FBaggins Jan 2024 #16
They have some corvettes and friggates... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #13
How close can they get from missiles fired from US Navy jets from distance they can't even see? brush Jan 2024 #15
Thats assuming a firing decision has been authorized... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #17
The Mediterreanean is not a small body of water. brush Jan 2024 #18
Red sea, not med.. getagrip_already Jan 2024 #19
US Naval officers are capable of handling Iran or Yemen forces... brush Jan 2024 #20
Of course they are..... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #21
And so can opponents. My money is on the US in hot combat. brush Jan 2024 #30
I think you mean post 24. MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2024 #31
Yes, thanks for the correction. brush Jan 2024 #33
Red sea, Gulf of Aden, not the med..... reACTIONary Jan 2024 #22
May end up looking like this one. paleotn Jan 2024 #32
An accident might happen lapfog_1 Jan 2024 #10
I don't know what it is going to accomplish other than symbolism Gore1FL Jan 2024 #11
Great and humorous video of what happened the last time the Iranian Navy MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2024 #24
New Iranian TV show...... LPBBEAR Jan 2024 #25
Alborz (72) is one of 4 frigates built in the UK for Iran during 1968-1972. It has been upgraded since. Ford_Prefect Jan 2024 #26
4.5 inch gun and Noor anti ship missiles Kennah Jan 2024 #27
Oh yeah, MarineCombatEngineer Jan 2024 #28
I wouldn't say "probably" GP6971 Jan 2024 #36
Iran sending Navy ships... to protect world trade shipping from pirates? keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #29
Iran is at the find out point...nuts! PortTack Jan 2024 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author TeamProg Jan 2024 #35
They sent a 51 year old frigate IronLionZion Jan 2024 #37
Those Iranian sailors must be shitting in their pants. pwb Jan 2024 #38
If you don't want to get shot and killed at sea don't engage in piracy. cstanleytech Jan 2024 #39

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
2. True
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:21 PM
Jan 2024

This is a big decision. Which weapon system should be used to sink it? Lotta choices.

nocoincidences

(2,489 posts)
3. Don't make us
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:21 PM
Jan 2024

turn this aircraft carrier around!

Cause the sailors who expected to be back in Norfolk are probably going to be a little trigger happy...

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
4. I predict one of the other carriers in Norfolk is going to head out within the next few weeks.
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:21 PM
Jan 2024

nocoincidences

(2,489 posts)
6. The Ike strike group
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:28 PM
Jan 2024

is already in the Persian Gulf. I'm not sure where the other carriers are right now.

Angleae

(4,801 posts)
23. All the others except Ike & Ford and in/near major US navy ports.
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 07:38 PM
Jan 2024

Norfolk, San Diego, Pearl Harbor, Yokosuka, Bremerton, etc.

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
12. They had four very nice ones on the way prior to the revolution
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:43 PM
Jan 2024

They became the Kidd class for the US Navy and were essentially cruisers.

Now they’re the heart of the Taiwanese navy

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
14. "Now they're the heart of the Taiwanese navy."
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:51 PM
Jan 2024

Huh? Explain please. What does that have to do with Iran?

FBaggins

(28,706 posts)
16. Iran was our ally in the 70s
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 07:04 PM
Jan 2024

The only country we ever sold the F-14 to. They had ordered (and paid for) four souped-up Spruance class destroyers. They were just rolling off the blocks when the Ayatollah took over in Iran and the US Navy decided to keep them. They were ideal for service in the now-heated-up Middle East due to their more powerful air conditioning and sand-filtering systems - and they were a great way to tease Iran every time they deployed to the Gulf.

They were later sold to Taiwan

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
13. They have some corvettes and friggates...
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:47 PM
Jan 2024

All pre revolution us built, like Korean or ww2 vintage.

They also have some older soviet kilo class attack subs.

I'm not sure what they have for weopon systems, but the closer they get, the more dangerous they get. Even shells are dangerous if they hit you in a first strike.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
15. How close can they get from missiles fired from US Navy jets from distance they can't even see?
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:54 PM
Jan 2024

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
17. Thats assuming a firing decision has been authorized...
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 07:04 PM
Jan 2024

We aren't talking about oceans here. These are very small bodies of water relatively speaking.

Rules of engage don't allow a commander to fire on first sight, or they would always be firing. So there is a lot of game playing. One side challenges the other and backs off. Gets aggressive and turns away, or just non chalontly gets too close.

At what point do you decide to fire? I don't know. I'm not military.

But my guess is they can close enough to get ballistic rounds off.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
18. The Mediterreanean is not a small body of water.
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 07:08 PM
Jan 2024

All I'm saying is that Iran, or Yemen's forces are no match for the US Navy.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
19. Red sea, not med..
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 07:13 PM
Jan 2024

The red sea is long, but only about 200 miles wide. Ships can't pass each other outside of missile kill distance.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
21. Of course they are.....
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 07:22 PM
Jan 2024

But shit happens. We aren't impervious.

We have the best military in the world, but it can still lose an assett in hot combat.

Never forget that.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
30. And so can opponents. My money is on the US in hot combat.
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 08:55 PM
Jan 2024

I have to say, you sound like yours isn't.

See video in Post 24 when Iran last fucked with the US Navy.

paleotn

(22,212 posts)
32. May end up looking like this one.
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 09:03 PM
Jan 2024

I'm not exactly sure what the Iranians are up to. Their record against the US Navy is bad. Very bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Praying_Mantis



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lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
10. An accident might happen
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:36 PM
Jan 2024

where a "Houthi" group in Yemen might fire some Houthi rockets at the Iranian warship.

All by accident...

Oops.

Gore1FL

(22,951 posts)
11. I don't know what it is going to accomplish other than symbolism
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 06:38 PM
Jan 2024

Unless Iran wants to directly support the shipping attacks it'll just be a training cruise.

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
24. Great and humorous video of what happened the last time the Iranian Navy
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 07:47 PM
Jan 2024

decided to fuck with the US Navy:



If Iran thinks that the US Navy is intimidated by their Navy, they're going to learn another painful lesson.
Truly hope it doesn't come down to this.

LPBBEAR

(658 posts)
25. New Iranian TV show......
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 07:53 PM
Jan 2024

"Voyage To See Whats On The Bottom"

Coming soon to a channel near you.

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
27. 4.5 inch gun and Noor anti ship missiles
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 08:14 PM
Jan 2024

Gun has a 14 mile range

Missiles have an 18 to 137 mile range (depending upon the model)

Once it enters the Arabian Sea, I'd say it becomes a target

MarineCombatEngineer

(18,060 posts)
28. Oh yeah,
Mon Jan 1, 2024, 08:17 PM
Jan 2024

and there'll probably be a LA or Virginia class Hunter/Killer sub shadowing it with a firing solution ready to go on a moment's notice.

Response to Kennah (Original post)

IronLionZion

(51,267 posts)
37. They sent a 51 year old frigate
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 12:11 AM
Jan 2024

of the same class that the US Navy already sank one in 1988. Good luck with that. I hope the Iranian sailors have made out their wills and are prepared to end up in the bottom of the Red Sea.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvand-class_frigate

pwb

(12,660 posts)
38. Those Iranian sailors must be shitting in their pants.
Tue Jan 2, 2024, 12:23 AM
Jan 2024

Maybe it is time for this? Once and for all, Iran, Russia and North Korea. They are all phony fake tough just like Iraq and Libya. This is just me but I tire of them all. Combined they should not threaten Joe.

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