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riversedge

(80,767 posts)
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 07:23 PM Jan 2024

Hydroxychloroquine could have caused 17,000 deaths during COVID, study finds

Source: politico.eu






Former US President Donald Trump said: ‘What do you have to lose? Take it.’


By Mari Eccles January 4, 2024 3:43 pm CET


Nearly 17,000 people may have died after taking hydroxycholoroquine during the first wave of COVID, according to a study by French researchers.

The anti-malaria drug was prescribed to some patients hospitalized with COVID-19 during the first wave of the pandemic, "despite the absence of evidence documenting its clinical benefits," the researchers point out in their paper, published in the February issue of Biomedicine & Pharmacotherapy.

Now, researchers have estimated that some 16,990 people in six countries — France, Belgium, Italy, Spain, Turkey and the U.S. — may have died as a result...................

In fact, they say the figure may be far higher given the study only concerns six countries from March to July 2020, when the drug was prescribed much more widely............................


Read more: https://www.politico.eu/article/hydroxychloroquine-could-have-caused-17000-deaths-during-covid-study-finds/



I never once considered taking it.



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Former U.S. President Donald Trump considered hydroxychloroquine something of a “miracle cure” | George Frey/AFP via Getty Images
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Hydroxychloroquine could have caused 17,000 deaths during COVID, study finds (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2024 OP
Im convinced Trump's COVID rhetoric at a bare minimum killed at least 100,000 people. Oneironaut Jan 2024 #1
The real of C-19 deaths worldwide is 14 million Botany Jan 2024 #15
Let's do the reverse switcharoo thing again... Blue Owl Jan 2024 #2
It was probably more than that BumRushDaShow Jan 2024 #3
Dang... jvill Jan 2024 #4
My wife has had to take this as part of her regimen for rheumatoid arthritis . . . Journeyman Jan 2024 #5
I have a friend with lupus TexasBushwhacker Jan 2024 #14
Took that Rebl2 Jan 2024 #16
Wonder how many would have gone blind? NCjack Jan 2024 #18
Pity. Oopsie Daisy Jan 2024 #6
The reason you have measured, careful speech rather than brash "tell it straight" discourse Prairie Gates Jan 2024 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author getagrip_already Jan 2024 #8
A fool with their health are soon parted nt Javaman Jan 2024 #9
TFG is already parting with his wealth Kennah Jan 2024 #23
Once again, Trump kills people by his rhetoric alone sakabatou Jan 2024 #10
I wonder if Stench took it Demobrat Jan 2024 #11
tRump also looked at the solar eclipse without eye protection. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jan 2024 #12
The bigger question is: how much was Chump paid to recommend this drug? FakeNoose Jan 2024 #13
Always thought Rebl2 Jan 2024 #17
Add more indictments to Trump's 91 other indictments IronLionZion Jan 2024 #21
tfg was not only a horrible president, he's a horrid person! C Moon Jan 2024 #19
Douchebag killed many of his own supporters with this BS. IronLionZion Jan 2024 #20
Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius. Kennah Jan 2024 #24
Dump was looking for a miracle cure johnnyfins Jan 2024 #22
What have they said about dumb and dumber ? republianmushroom Jan 2024 #25
Seal Team 6 was sent in to kill a man who killed about 3,000 GreenWave Jan 2024 #26
That headline is incorrect....Let me correct it.... William Gustafson Jan 2024 #27
The real number may be far higher jmowreader Jan 2024 #28

Oneironaut

(6,293 posts)
1. Im convinced Trump's COVID rhetoric at a bare minimum killed at least 100,000 people.
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 07:26 PM
Jan 2024

The real number is likely much higher than that too.

Botany

(77,292 posts)
15. The real of C-19 deaths worldwide is 14 million
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 10:10 PM
Jan 2024

Died but we’re not diagnosed
Died but were diagnosed
Died because they could not get medical care because “it” was busy being used for
Covid cases.

Trump owns many of those cases because he and Jared were busy buying hydroxchloroquitin
and their own C-19 test kits neither which worked. Along w/Jared fucking up the P,.P.E. supplies
that President Obama and Dr. Fauci put aside to help with any future airborne pandemics.

Blue Owl

(59,052 posts)
2. Let's do the reverse switcharoo thing again...
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 07:29 PM
Jan 2024

If Joe Biden would have encouraged everyone to take hydroxychloroquine during the pandemic, the MAGAts would be calling for his head on a platter...

But kid gloves tRump saying it -- oh, no problem!

Reality is, science is on the Democrat's side...

BumRushDaShow

(169,523 posts)
3. It was probably more than that
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 07:33 PM
Jan 2024

I expect that MEs might not have even considered it as a potential cause of death (let alone if they were even aware it was being taken for off-label use).

Journeyman

(15,445 posts)
5. My wife has had to take this as part of her regimen for rheumatoid arthritis . . .
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 07:35 PM
Jan 2024

she had to be regularly tested to monitor its cumulative effect in order to prevent blindness, among other issues.

I remember, when the Idiot was pushing people to use it, there was a nationwide run on the drug and my wife was unable to get her prescriptions filled.

Yeah, listen to Idiots, die an idiots death.

Rebl2

(17,716 posts)
16. Took that
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 10:15 PM
Jan 2024

for RA beginning in 1979 and had to stop taking in 2018 because it did start effecting my eyes. Had to see eye dr. twice a year all those years. Asked my rheumatologist in 2021 if her patients had trouble finding it and she said they absolutely did.

Prairie Gates

(8,108 posts)
7. The reason you have measured, careful speech rather than brash "tell it straight" discourse
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 07:47 PM
Jan 2024

among people in high positions is because when they say things, there are direct results.

The manner of speaking that is interpreted as excessively careful and milquetoast by, you know, idiots, actually saves people's lives.

Response to riversedge (Original post)

FakeNoose

(41,577 posts)
13. The bigger question is: how much was Chump paid to recommend this drug?
Thu Jan 4, 2024, 09:59 PM
Jan 2024

Last edited Thu Jan 4, 2024, 11:21 PM - Edit history (1)

Somebody PAID Chump to tell Americans to take Hydroxychloroquine ... I guarantee it.

I live in Pennsylvania and in 2022 we witnessed the senatorial contest between John Fetterman and "Doctor Oz" - Mehmet Oz - who wasn't even a resident of our state. Dr. Oz has many contacts in the pharmaceutical industry, as well as a medical license, and therefore people tended to believe his tabloid-style pronouncements before and during his campaign. What people sometimes failed to understand was that Dr. Oz's wife had a seat on the executive board of Thermo Fischer Scientific, a manufacturer of Hydroxychloroquine sulfate, and they were owners of over $600K stock in the company. Oz received campaign donations from Thermo Fischer Scientific and McKesson Corp, another manufacturer of Hydroxychloroquine sulfate.

One could jump to the obvious conclusion that even though Doctor Oz had an infinitesimal chance of being elected Senator in Pennsylvania, perhaps that didn't matter. Perhaps his only objective was to convince certain MAGA voters to reject the Biden Administration's vaccinations, and solidify the MAGAts belief in Hydroxychloroquine because .... it works! This is the miracle you're looking for! Pfizer and Moderna don't know what they're doing ... this is what you need!

I don't know, I'm just spitballin' here. Honestly I don't know anyone who actually voted for Doctor Oz. Everyone I know voted for John Fetterman, and as far as we were concerned he was the ONLY candidate.

But this bounces back to Chump. He never ... NEVER! ... gives a recommendation for anything unless he's been paid. We can be sure that some Big Pharma Company paid Chump to say this. And at least 17,000 people believed him and died. (I'm sure the number is much higher.) When is Chump going to be charged with these deaths?

IronLionZion

(51,231 posts)
21. Add more indictments to Trump's 91 other indictments
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 01:14 AM
Jan 2024

he can hold the record for President with most indictments. There should be a money trail somewhere leading from those companies to his pockets. He has a long history of fraud, lies, screwing everyone every chance he gets, grifting money from his idiot supporters, etc.

It always amazes me how his supposedly rural low income voters feel the need to donate money to a supposed billionaire. And how a US president would still be trying to make money from his hotels and other businesses to launder foreign donations.

IronLionZion

(51,231 posts)
20. Douchebag killed many of his own supporters with this BS.
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 01:08 AM
Jan 2024

Many conservative idiots were selling poison online to other conservative idiots who were buying it. Often without any prescription or doctor supervision. They sold ivermectin, colloidal silver, and more. They were really owning the libs and the deep state somehow by ignoring the advice of qualified doctors/scientists. All the while claiming that masks don't work, let in viruses but don't let in air to breathe. Idiots.

johnnyfins

(3,753 posts)
22. Dump was looking for a miracle cure
Fri Jan 5, 2024, 04:02 AM
Jan 2024

He would have, pushed anything to get rid of Covid so his precious re-election campaign could proceed. That was his fatal mistake. If he would have just handled the pandemic like a normal person(or let normal people do it for him without opening his pig gob), he would have been re-elected. Now we are facing a surge on the east coast: Two health companies that I know of have re-instituted masking.

GreenWave

(12,636 posts)
26. Seal Team 6 was sent in to kill a man who killed about 3,000
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 06:03 PM
Jan 2024

No fucking around with trials. Just saying.

William Gustafson

(553 posts)
27. That headline is incorrect....Let me correct it....
Fri Jan 12, 2024, 06:33 PM
Jan 2024

"Former President Trump pushing Hydroxychloroquine caused 17,000 deaths during COVID, study finds"... that is the real headline.

jmowreader

(53,175 posts)
28. The real number may be far higher
Sat Jan 13, 2024, 02:59 AM
Jan 2024

You’d also have to add people who took malaria pills, horse dewormer, colloidal silver, bleach, essential oils, homeopathy or whatever and died not because they took this nonsense but because they refused anything that might actually have worked.

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