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riversedge

(80,811 posts)
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 12:10 PM Jan 2024

GOP Rep. Elise Stefanik won't commit to certifying the 2024 election results

Source: nbc


“We will see if this is a legal and valid election,” Stefanik, a member of House GOP leadership and a Donald Trump ally, said in an interview with “Meet the Press.

Updated Jan. 7, 2024, 9:22 AM CST By Summer Concepcion

Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., on Sunday wouldn’t commit to certifying the 2024 election results during an interview on NBC News’ “Meet the Press.”

While interviewing Stefanik, who serves in House Republican leadership, host Kristen Welker asked, “Would you vote to certify, and will you vote to certify, the results of the 2024 election no matter what they show?”

Stefanik, who has boosted former President Donald Trump’s baseless claims of widespread fraud in the 2020 election, said that she did not vote to certify the 2020 results in the state of Pennsylvania and several other states because there were “unconstitutional acts circumventing the state legislature and unilaterally changing election law.”

After Welker pressed her again on the matter, Stefanik wouldn’t commit to certifying the election results and criticized efforts to remove Trump from the ballot in Colorado, Maine and other states.

“We will see if this is a legal and valid election,” she said. “What we’re seeing so far is that Democrats are so desperate, they’re trying to remove President Trump from the ballot. That is a suppression of the American people. And the Supreme Court is taking that case up in February — that should be a nine to zero to allow President Trump to appear on the ballot because that’s the American people’s decision to make this November.”

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Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/republican-elise-stefanik-wont-commit-certifying-2024-election-results-rcna132700



Damn, these Repugs are beyond annoying.



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GOP Rep. Elise Stefanik won't commit to certifying the 2024 election results (Original Post) riversedge Jan 2024 OP
I am so fucking sick of this! FalloutShelter Jan 2024 #1
The reporter needs to shout at her, "YES OR NO?" mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2024 #2
That response should be reserved for the question: robbob Jan 2024 #43
So much for her not accepting that answer SouthBayDem Jan 2024 #48
Putin hears this and he just beams with pleasure, then he bomb some more innocent civilians in Ukraine Walleye Jan 2024 #3
Will any election be fair enough for them or will we have this "fake" stuff forever? Deuxcents Jan 2024 #4
Somebody should ask these people, how many times do we have to beat this guy. Walleye Jan 2024 #10
Only the ones they 'win' of course. canuckledragger Jan 2024 #13
She really wants to be on the Trump ticket. Freethinker65 Jan 2024 #5
So the party who wouldn't accept the outcome won't do so again. She's there already. bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #6
That tells me That she is doesn't believe the orange Butterflylady Jan 2024 #12
My thoughts exactly, Butterflylady. Talitha Jan 2024 #23
They'll certify any election that Donald Trump wins. tanyev Jan 2024 #7
She said exactly what anyone should have expected her to say. TwilightZone Jan 2024 #8
Want to be a VP.... multigraincracker Jan 2024 #9
She'll have to get down on both knees for P01135809 ArkansasDemocrat1 Jan 2024 #24
luckily the house doesn't certify anything Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #11
Congress plays a role certifying the results when Electoral College are counted in a Joint Session of Congress. This is 24601 Jan 2024 #36
That is the objection process it is not a certification Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #37
Pence Sick of it Jan 2024 #38
On the day of certification the gqp will not be in control of congress...the Dems will PortTack Jan 2024 #45
I HOPE SO!!!! Cha Jan 2024 #53
Suspect its the VP role she craves Evolve Dammit Jan 2024 #54
Up stinky's ass. MOMFUDSKI Jan 2024 #14
See you next Tuesday, Elise chicoescuela Jan 2024 #15
Dems should be talking like thisnas well . Fullduplexxx Jan 2024 #16
She should be impeached. sellitman Jan 2024 #17
There is no impeachment process for House members Polybius Jan 2024 #19
Then... Chi67 Jan 2024 #30
We'd have very few members if we did that n/t Polybius Jan 2024 #31
There were calls for her resignation here in NY-21 after she spoke out with Gym Jordan during the impeachment hearings Rhiannon12866 Jan 2024 #35
Stefanik Sick of it Jan 2024 #39
Reporters are so bad, should've asked her what she would do if she didn't accept the results. Attack the Capitol? Walleye Jan 2024 #18
The word "serves" needs to be eliminated from all descriptions Harker Jan 2024 #20
Nor does she behave as a public "servant". GreenWave Jan 2024 #22
As she tries to influence the vote with here "9-0" statement... ificandream Jan 2024 #21
UNLESS TRUMP WINS, I don't expect her to. CousinIT Jan 2024 #25
What she means is ... Jeebo Jan 2024 #26
Glad it's not HER decision. elleng Jan 2024 #27
We already know that if Trump loses they will claim the election is illegal and try to get it to the House for a vote. Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #28
Rubber Soul Chicken Shit Weasel Word Pubicans IA8IT Jan 2024 #29
How safe is her seat? niyad Jan 2024 #32
One more GOOPer to be committed because they are certifiable Kennah Jan 2024 #33
If they don't certify then Biden stays in office SouthernDem4ever Jan 2024 #34
The results will be the same as last election. hadEnuf Jan 2024 #40
"A legal and valid election is when Republicans win" dalton99a Jan 2024 #41
Dems have voted not to certify. maxsolomon Jan 2024 #42
It's a moot point... she and her whacko gqp critters will not be in charge on the day of certification PortTack Jan 2024 #44
Well she's a die-hard cult member Quanto Magnus Jan 2024 #46
I won't commit to not committing Elise Stefanik. dchill Jan 2024 #47
They say these things to make headlines and to irritate us (own the libs) IcyPeas Jan 2024 #49
Stefanik Is A Fascist CitizenZero Jan 2024 #50
How much Cheeto dust is on her lips? sakabatou Jan 2024 #51
She is BoBo in a nicer dress. nevergiveup Jan 2024 #52

robbob

(3,750 posts)
43. That response should be reserved for the question:
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 02:58 PM
Jan 2024

Last edited Fri Jan 19, 2024, 12:23 PM - Edit history (1)

“Is it a problem when candidate tRump shits himself on stage at his rallies?”

Walleye

(44,807 posts)
3. Putin hears this and he just beams with pleasure, then he bomb some more innocent civilians in Ukraine
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 12:19 PM
Jan 2024

Deuxcents

(26,918 posts)
4. Will any election be fair enough for them or will we have this "fake" stuff forever?
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 12:20 PM
Jan 2024

One man and his selfish desire to be president for life has poisoned our norms and traditions of elections. Will we ever be rid of him?

 

canuckledragger

(1,992 posts)
13. Only the ones they 'win' of course.
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 12:42 PM
Jan 2024

Remember all the states that were contested because the democrats won, but not when the republican candidate did, even though they were on the same ballots?

It's all about demonizing and delegitimizing their opponents, facts and reality be damned.

Butterflylady

(4,584 posts)
12. That tells me That she is doesn't believe the orange
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 12:39 PM
Jan 2024

Con is going to win. She has her mind already made up as to what she will do.

Talitha

(7,988 posts)
23. My thoughts exactly, Butterflylady.
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 02:20 PM
Jan 2024

She's covering her backside way ahead of time.

(BTW, love your username!)

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
8. She said exactly what anyone should have expected her to say.
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 12:24 PM
Jan 2024

What she said shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Getting worked up over the same tired nonsense is a waste of time.

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
11. luckily the house doesn't certify anything
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 12:34 PM
Jan 2024

the states certify their results.
It could vote on an objection to a state's election certification.
Nor does the vice president certify anything, the vp simply reads and totals the results.
And finally this congress won't be doing anything as a new congress takes over before the results are tallied.

24601

(4,142 posts)
36. Congress plays a role certifying the results when Electoral College are counted in a Joint Session of Congress. This is
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 10:42 AM
Jan 2024

the process that was disrupted on Jan 6, 2021.

If a Representative and a Senator object to a state's submitted Electoral Votes, the Joint Session is recessed while each house of Congress debate and vote on the objection. If the objection is upheld in both houses, the state's votes are disqualified. This can open up to consideration of an alternative slate or could throw the election to Congress if no candidate receives 270 Electoral Votes. In such a case, the House of Representatives elects the President based on one state, one vote. 26 Votes being necessary. The Senate elects the Vice President based on one senator, one vote with 51 being required. The sitting Vice President (if there is one) can break a tie. If the voting is continuing past noon on January 20th, there is no sitting VP and the President Pro Tempore presides with their individual vote as a Senator.

Recent history includes multiple Republican and Democratic members not voting to certify the results. Newsweek reported the following on Jan 13, 2021:

Even though Republicans were able to get two objections formally considered in 2021, they objected to votes from only six states. It should be noted, however, that the Capitol riot earlier in the day kept the number of objections lower than expected.


In 2017, House Democrats objected to votes from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina and Wisconsin. Objections also were made after the announcement of votes from Mississippi, Michigan and Wyoming, adding up to nine states. None of the nine objections was considered because they lacked the signature of a senator.


The linked story identifies which members objected to which states.

https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-democrats-object-more-states-2016-republicans-2020-1561407

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
37. That is the objection process it is not a certification
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 11:29 AM
Jan 2024

The electoral votes are certified by each state. The objection process allows for a rejection of a specific state certification, and is rarely invoked and even more rarely successful.

The house does not certify anything.

The role of the vp is to count those votes. It is ceremonial. This fact was disputed by the Trump gang, who insisted that Pence had some authority to reject the certified votes. Pence, to his credit, refused to go along.

Sick of it

(2 posts)
38. Pence
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 11:59 AM
Jan 2024

You are correct! I have to wonder seriously he had to check and see if there was anything he could do until people with actual common sense and decency told him No! Yeah he did the right thing finally but......

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
45. On the day of certification the gqp will not be in control of congress...the Dems will
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 03:36 PM
Jan 2024

And as you referenced it takes an agreement in both the congress and senate b4 it goes to one state one vote. A democratically controlled house will not agree

Fullduplexxx

(8,626 posts)
16. Dems should be talking like thisnas well .
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 12:44 PM
Jan 2024

We're not turning the government to someone who wants to make it a dictatorship

Polybius

(21,902 posts)
19. There is no impeachment process for House members
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 01:03 PM
Jan 2024

They can be expunged with a two thirds majority vote, as was done with George Santos.

Chi67

(1,285 posts)
30. Then...
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 03:53 PM
Jan 2024

…that is what should happen. Lying and refusing to do the job should be sufficient grounds for removal.

Rhiannon12866

(255,539 posts)
35. There were calls for her resignation here in NY-21 after she spoke out with Gym Jordan during the impeachment hearings
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 12:41 AM
Jan 2024

She ignored them.


Sick of it

(2 posts)
39. Stefanik
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 12:05 PM
Jan 2024

She is up for reelection this year she needs to be voted out! She thinks she is so special that her district is fully secure so she says.

Walleye

(44,807 posts)
18. Reporters are so bad, should've asked her what she would do if she didn't accept the results. Attack the Capitol?
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 01:00 PM
Jan 2024

Harker

(17,785 posts)
20. The word "serves" needs to be eliminated from all descriptions
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 01:05 PM
Jan 2024

of what these loathsome parasites do in Congress.

She neither serves my interests nor represents me.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
21. As she tries to influence the vote with here "9-0" statement...
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 01:06 PM
Jan 2024

Repughs will do anything to get their way.

CousinIT

(12,541 posts)
25. UNLESS TRUMP WINS, I don't expect her to.
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 03:34 PM
Jan 2024

That's who MAGAvangelicals are now. They do not believe in Democracy anymore. They want a minority to impose their own chosen government on the rest of us in lieu of elections.

Jeebo

(2,560 posts)
26. What she means is ...
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 03:41 PM
Jan 2024

"I will vote to certify the election if the Republican wins. I will not vote to certify the election if the Democrat wins."

-- Ron

Lonestarblue

(13,480 posts)
28. We already know that if Trump loses they will claim the election is illegal and try to get it to the House for a vote.
Sun Jan 7, 2024, 03:46 PM
Jan 2024

Which Trump would win. The only people who will try to make this election illegal are Republicans. Given what they tried to do in 2020 to overturn a fair election, I shudder to think of all the illegal actions they have planned for 2024. None will be honest.

hadEnuf

(3,616 posts)
40. The results will be the same as last election.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 02:20 PM
Jan 2024

Where every claim of the election not being legal and valid were thrown out by multiple US courts, multiple times.

So in other words, she is planning to interfere with a legal presidential election on behalf of her terrorist leader, Trump.

This is confessing to a plan of sedition and insurrection. She should resign immediately or face investigation and arrest.

maxsolomon

(38,729 posts)
42. Dems have voted not to certify.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 02:37 PM
Jan 2024

2020 wasn't the 1st time it's happened.

"Dems are so desperate" that they had a group of Republicans file suit in Colorado to keep Motherfucker off the ballot. Stefanik is the worst.

PortTack

(35,820 posts)
44. It's a moot point... she and her whacko gqp critters will not be in charge on the day of certification
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 03:32 PM
Jan 2024

Quanto Magnus

(1,347 posts)
46. Well she's a die-hard cult member
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 05:01 PM
Jan 2024

I fully expect most of the GQP to have this point of view now.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
47. I won't commit to not committing Elise Stefanik.
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 05:07 PM
Jan 2024

Elise Stefanik's importance is all self.

IcyPeas

(25,475 posts)
49. They say these things to make headlines and to irritate us (own the libs)
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 07:23 PM
Jan 2024

This is all they know how to do well.

1. Make Headlines
2. Own the libs



 

CitizenZero

(920 posts)
50. Stefanik Is A Fascist
Mon Jan 8, 2024, 07:50 PM
Jan 2024

And she is not stupid like Trump. She is clearly and willfully a Fascist. She could have chosen to be a typical establishment Republican but she has drunk the MAGA Kool Aid instead. I have followed her career here in New York. She has been corrupted by Trump and MAGA. She just wants power, no Constitution, no Democracy. She is an Enemy of the State.

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