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LetMyPeopleVote

(182,047 posts)
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:22 PM Jan 2024

Trump fraud trial: Trump intends to deliver part of closing argument himself, say sources

Source: ABC

Former President Donald Trump is on trial in New York in a $250 million civil lawsuit that could alter the personal fortune and real estate empire that helped propel Trump to the White House.

Trump, his sons Eric Trump and and Donald Trump Jr., and other top Trump Organization executives are accused by New York Attorney General Letitia James of engaging in a decade-long scheme in which they used "numerous acts of fraud and misrepresentation" to inflate Trump's net worth in order get more favorable loan terms. The trial comes after the judge in the case ruled in a partial summary judgment that Trump had submitted "fraudulent valuations" for his assets, leaving the trial to determine additional actions and what penalty, if any, the defendants should receive.

The former president has denied all wrongdoing and his attorneys have argued that Trump's alleged inflated valuations were a product of his business skill.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/trump-fraud-trial/?id=103642561




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Trump fraud trial: Trump intends to deliver part of closing argument himself, say sources (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 OP
How much you wanna bet somebody records it... getagrip_already Jan 2024 #1
It's gonna be deranged.............................. Lovie777 Jan 2024 #2
Oh, what fun! sinkingfeeling Jan 2024 #3
Lying is a business skill? paleotn Jan 2024 #4
Uh huh liberalgunwilltravel Jan 2024 #5
I predict a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. tanyev Jan 2024 #6
Bet he doesn't. Lochloosa Jan 2024 #7
I bet he doesn't, either. Midnight Writer Jan 2024 #10
He'd have to... Whatthe_Firetruck Jan 2024 #22
If Trump says anything, it will be that the case is abuse of power, rigged by Biden to hurt Trump politically. Freethinker65 Jan 2024 #8
Covfeve dweller Jan 2024 #9
Trump can't jump. Marcuse Jan 2024 #21
More powerful than his testimony! dpibel Jan 2024 #11
Who wants to go on an unhinged tangent that has nothing to do with the trial sakabatou Jan 2024 #12
And then he can demand the guilty verdict be thrown out for incompetent legal representation? keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #13
Well that Rebl2 Jan 2024 #14
Good idea Donnie Unwind Your Mind Jan 2024 #15
Oh, I hope so. Dump will only incriminate himsef further if he represents himself. Martin68 Jan 2024 #16
It shouldn't work the way he thinks it will PSPS Jan 2024 #17
No way dpibel Jan 2024 #26
Thanks for the enlightenment. I forgot about that. PSPS Jan 2024 #35
He won't make the argument, then he'll argue in public that he wasn't allowed Kennah Jan 2024 #18
Please put that on in prime time! Bayard Jan 2024 #19
Who will help with the big words? BadgerKid Jan 2024 #20
One of two things is planned. Mr.Bill Jan 2024 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author JudyM Jan 2024 #24
Anyone want to bet the motive is to get the current case dismissed and bound over for new trial? cstanleytech Jan 2024 #25
Can't argue facts not akready in evidence during closing statements. sinkingfeeling Jan 2024 #27
Witch hunt Beachnutt Jan 2024 #28
He will threaten the judge to have his family killed, and remind the judge of.... 70sEraVet Jan 2024 #29
What's that old saying -- "only a fool represents themselves in a court of law". iluvtennis Jan 2024 #30
How come it says the NYAG seeks $370M... Hugin Jan 2024 #31
The NYAG raised her demand to $370 million a week or so LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #32
I thought maybe it was because Trump is worthless... Hugin Jan 2024 #33
Here is a breakdown of the damages sought LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #38
What a looser. twodogsbarking Jan 2024 #34
Great Conjuay Jan 2024 #36
Judge say "Nope". pecosbob Jan 2024 #37

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
1. How much you wanna bet somebody records it...
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:27 PM
Jan 2024

And an edited version ends up on rag of a site.

He may even just post a staged version, pre-recorded and made to look like he was giving it live.

His base would believe it.

liberalgunwilltravel

(1,251 posts)
5. Uh huh
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:40 PM
Jan 2024

[his attorneys have argued that Trump's alleged inflated valuations were a product of his business skill.]

His business skill that led to him multiple bankruptcies, including bankrupting a casino? Hahahahahahaha.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
8. If Trump says anything, it will be that the case is abuse of power, rigged by Biden to hurt Trump politically.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 07:47 PM
Jan 2024

Of course, Biden has nothing to do with Trump's real estate fraud in the State of New York. Fraud committed years ago.

And by Trump's arguing in other cases, Biden would have immunity (which everyone pretty much agrees he would not have if he actually did abuse his power to go after a political opponent), for doing anything he wants as President.

And also how could a cognitively impaired low energy doddering old man suffering from dementia like Trump claims Biden is (he is not), at the same time be so adept at planning a coordinated effort to go after Trump without any trace that Biden is actually involved?

dpibel

(4,012 posts)
11. More powerful than his testimony!
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 09:11 PM
Jan 2024

You know, the testimony he guaranteed he was going to give in the trial.

I think his closing argument will be even better.

sakabatou

(46,335 posts)
12. Who wants to go on an unhinged tangent that has nothing to do with the trial
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 09:17 PM
Jan 2024

or he paints himself as a victim?

Unwind Your Mind

(2,364 posts)
15. Good idea Donnie
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 10:17 PM
Jan 2024

You should just do the whole thing, you’re smarter than those lawyers anyway

/sarcasm


Martin68

(28,066 posts)
16. Oh, I hope so. Dump will only incriminate himsef further if he represents himself.
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 11:08 PM
Jan 2024

Total loser!

PSPS

(15,376 posts)
17. It shouldn't work the way he thinks it will
Tue Jan 9, 2024, 11:21 PM
Jan 2024

He wants to turn it into another campaign event but, as I understand it, a closing statement cannot contain facts not in evidence or not relevant to the case. For example, if he says, "everyone knows the election was stolen," the judge can shut it down or it can be declared a mistrial. Maybe that's his plan because forcing a mistrial means more delay.

dpibel

(4,012 posts)
26. No way
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 02:59 AM
Jan 2024

It's a bench trial. Mistrial is pretty much impossible. Especially some sort of intentionally caused one.

PSPS

(15,376 posts)
35. Thanks for the enlightenment. I forgot about that.
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 09:19 AM
Jan 2024

Thanks heavens the trial isn't being broadcast. Then it would just be another campaign rally.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
23. One of two things is planned.
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 02:05 AM
Jan 2024

Either he doesn't do it, or he stands there and threatens the judge.

Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

cstanleytech

(28,594 posts)
25. Anyone want to bet the motive is to get the current case dismissed and bound over for new trial?
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 02:27 AM
Jan 2024

70sEraVet

(5,616 posts)
29. He will threaten the judge to have his family killed, and remind the judge of....
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 08:02 AM
Jan 2024

what happened to twelve year-old Maria. It has worked for him so far.

Hugin

(37,993 posts)
31. How come it says the NYAG seeks $370M...
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 08:29 AM
Jan 2024

And right below that the article says it is a $250M fraud suit?

Is the MSM trying to lowball the severity of the matter?

I’ve seen several downticks, I believe it started at $750M.

Hugin

(37,993 posts)
33. I thought maybe it was because Trump is worthless...
Wed Jan 10, 2024, 08:45 AM
Jan 2024

I mean, worth less.

I guess the boilerplate needs to catch up and call it a $370M law suit.

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