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BumRushDaShow

(169,756 posts)
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 06:02 AM Jan 2024

No Labels files DOJ complaint about groups boycotting its 2024 presidential ballot access effort

Source: CBS News

January 18, 2024 / 7:47 PM EST


No Labels, a political group that's preparing a potential independent presidential ticket in 2024, filed a Justice Department complaint requesting an investigation into some organizations led by Democrats and their allies that the group alleges are trying to interfere in its efforts to gain ballot access in all 50 states and Washington D.C.

No Labels leader and lawyer Dan Webb announced the complaint in a press conference in Washington Thursday and said the filing alleged an "unlawful conspiracy to subvert Americans voting rights, and shut down the organization's effort to secure ballot access in the 2024 presidential election."

"We have set forth substantial evidence and allege that based on that evidence, there is a group of activists and artists and party officials who have participated in alleged illegal conspiracy to use intimidation, harassment and fear against representatives of no labels, its donors and as potential candidates," Webb said.

The political group said in the 11-page complaint that it's "one thing to oppose candidates who are running; it's another to use intimidation to prevent them from even getting in front of the voters."

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/no-labels-party-2024-presidential-ballot-access-effort-complaint/

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No Labels files DOJ complaint about groups boycotting its 2024 presidential ballot access effort (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2024 OP
That's "rigged election" whining in a different venue - proof they're aligned with Trump. /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #1
Yup. BumRushDaShow Jan 2024 #2
And additionally, they have no legal basis to complain about boycotts. ificandream Jan 2024 #6
If I Remember Correctly... GB_RN Jan 2024 #12
They're only on two battleground state ballots -- NV & AZ -- out of 14 state ballots ancianita Jan 2024 #14
No Labels are a fraud. Fuck them. SunSeeker Jan 2024 #3
In other words it is both difficult and expensive Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #4
No Labels is now the Spoiler Party samnsara Jan 2024 #5
A group formed imo with the sole intent of siphoning off voters that are more likely to vote for a sane Democrat rather cstanleytech Jan 2024 #7
Ralph Nader is still alive at 89. Mawspam2 Jan 2024 #8
No labels DownriverDem Jan 2024 #9
Yup. GB_RN Jan 2024 #13
So, in effect they're suing to make people who won't support their effort support their effort. pecosbob Jan 2024 #10
Yup... 2naSalit Jan 2024 #11
"No Labels" is a not-so-stealth republican charade PSPS Jan 2024 #15
Popehat (a competent lawyer): "No Labels letter is lunatic and should have been run past an attorney ... muriel_volestrangler Jan 2024 #16
I heard a couple of the characters running this group on MSNBC this morning. It's as Vinca Jan 2024 #17
They haven't even decided on their candidates yet. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #20
"Artists?" PlutosHeart Jan 2024 #18
Hip-hop artists. No, wait, those are the No Labels National Co-Chair's allies muriel_volestrangler Jan 2024 #21
They don't a have structure set up from precinct, to county, to district, and to state. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #19

GB_RN

(3,560 posts)
12. If I Remember Correctly...
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 10:19 AM
Jan 2024

Assholes like Leonard Leo are the people funding “No Labels.” Keep in mind that that fuckstick is the same guy who takes the extra corrupt scumbag (In)Justice Clarence “Uncle Slappy the Clown” Thomas and his equally sleazy wife on expensive trips (that Slappy never disclosed as required by law)…just before Leo would have cases before the court (either directly or some Reichwing cause he was funding).

ancianita

(43,307 posts)
14. They're only on two battleground state ballots -- NV & AZ -- out of 14 state ballots
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 10:31 AM
Jan 2024

worth 123 electoral college votes: Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Mississippi, Nevada, North Carolina, Oregon, South Dakota, and Utah.

They've said they intend to be spoilers for Biden, but they'll probably only hurt Trump. No Labels is misreading the electorate, imo, because some of these poll numbers are old, and this year will constitute more of the kind of turnout of 2020.

For the entirety of the campaign, a solid majority of Americans have been dissatisfied with the Trump-Biden choice, which is basically No Labels' current theory of the case.
Both Biden (at 38 percent) and Trump (41 percent) are underwater with independents, the swing voters in most 21st century presidential elections.
A Gallup synthesis of its 2023 polls released last Friday showed that 43 percent of Americans last year politically self-identified as independents, tying the all-time record of 2014.

And we are no longer just talking about Republican-leaning or Democrat-leaning independents, blocs whose voting habits have been relatively predictable over time.
The number of measurably independent independents has grown by 46 percent nationwide since October 2008, from 24.5 million to 35.3 million, nearly edging out the total of registered Republicans (35.7 million, as of October 2023, compared to 45.9 million Democrats).
In 2004, among the 30+ states that track partisan registration, Democrats and Republicans combined for a 75 percent market share; now that's down to 68 percent. (Registered Libertarians, meanwhile, have tripled since 2008, up to 742,000.)

https://news.yahoo.com/no-labels-13-presidential-candidates-165521767.html

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
4. In other words it is both difficult and expensive
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 08:20 AM
Jan 2024

to get on the ballot in many states. And I agree that is wrong, but it is also not a crime. These shitheads are facing the same hurdles that the libertarian and green parties faced, and yet somehow they both managed to get on the ballot in many states. On the other hand they both also have actual party members and actual political support in the population, which makes the tedious and expensive work of things like collecting signatures easier.

cstanleytech

(28,471 posts)
7. A group formed imo with the sole intent of siphoning off voters that are more likely to vote for a sane Democrat rather
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 09:42 AM
Jan 2024

than an asshole Trump supporter.

Mawspam2

(1,106 posts)
8. Ralph Nader is still alive at 89.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 09:43 AM
Jan 2024

No Morals should get him and that loon Williamson to team up.

pecosbob

(8,387 posts)
10. So, in effect they're suing to make people who won't support their effort support their effort.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 09:49 AM
Jan 2024

muriel_volestrangler

(106,211 posts)
16. Popehat (a competent lawyer): "No Labels letter is lunatic and should have been run past an attorney ...
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:03 PM
Jan 2024

"... an adult, or at least someone not in the midst of a manic episode."


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Vinca

(53,994 posts)
17. I heard a couple of the characters running this group on MSNBC this morning. It's as
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:07 PM
Jan 2024

if they have no comprehension that there is a 2-party system in this country, like it or not. They said their candidates would withdraw if it appeared they were taking votes away from either Republican or Democratic candidates. Huh? Any support they might get takes away from those candidates. It's not rocket science. The stupidity is frightening. It's like Ralph Nader and Jill Stein never existed.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
20. They haven't even decided on their candidates yet.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:45 PM
Jan 2024

No primaries. No caucuses. They determine without input from voters in each state?

muriel_volestrangler

(106,211 posts)
21. Hip-hop artists. No, wait, those are the No Labels National Co-Chair's allies
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 02:21 PM
Jan 2024
No Labels has announced that they are on the ballot in Utah. Today we’ll talk with No Labels’ National Co-Chair Dr. Benjamin F. Chavis, Jr

Dr. Benjamin F. Chavis, Jr is presently the CEO & President of the National Newspaper Publishers Association and the President of Education Online Services Corporation (EOServe Corp), the world’s leading provider of online higher education for Historically Black Colleges and Universities across America, as well as other academic institutions of higher learning throughout the world. Additionally, Dr. Chavis is the President and CEO of the Hip-Hop Summit Action Network (HSAN). Dr. Benjamin F. Chavis, Jr., alongside Business Mogul Russell Simmons, co-founded HSAN, the world’s largest coalition of hip-hop artists and recording industry executives. Dr. Chavis also travels around the world giving lectures on various topics, helping to uplift, transform, and sculpt ideals.

https://www.upr.org/show/access-utah/2023-07-11/no-labels-with-dr-benjamin-chavis-on-tuesdays-access-utah

Dunno. Maybe they don't like the work of courtroom artists on Trump?

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
19. They don't a have structure set up from precinct, to county, to district, and to state.
Fri Jan 19, 2024, 01:43 PM
Jan 2024

Without it they are not organized.

They don't have candidates running at any local, state, or federal level except possibly for President.

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