New York man convicted of murdering woman who wound up in his backcountry driveway after wrong turn

[ificandream]

Source: Associated Press

BY MAYSOON KHAN
Updated 1:48 PM PST, January 23, 2024

FORT EDWARD, N.Y. (AP) — A man was convicted of second-degree murder Tuesday for fatally shooting a young woman when the SUV she was riding in mistakenly drove up his rural driveway in upstate New York.

A jury found Kevin Monahan, 66, guilty of second-degree murder for shooting 20-year-old Kaylin Gillis on a Saturday night last April after she and her friends pulled into his long, curving driveway near the Vermont border while they were trying to find another house.

The group’s caravan of two cars and a motorcycle began leaving once they realized their mistake. Authorities said Monahan came out to his porch and fired twice from his shotgun, with the second shot hitting Gillis in the neck as she sat in the front passenger seat of an SUV driven by her boyfriend.

During the trial, Monahan and his attorney maintained the shooting in the rural town of Hebron, about 40 miles (65 kilometers) north of Albany was an accident involving a defective gun.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/wrong-driveway-shooting-new-york-gillis-monahan-b00206a2740a80af67e8086ef3ed75ba

[Deuxcents]

1. Would be interested to know his sentence when it comes down.

[SarahD]

2. Defective gun?

I would believe defective human being holding the gun.

[marble falls]

6. He went defective gunner.

[COL Mustard]

25. He should have gone Roland

The Headless Thompson Gunner.

[dchill]

35. Being Headless didn't stop Roland.

The eternal Thompson gunner, still wandering through the night
Now it's ten years later, but he still keeps up the fight
In Ireland, in Lebanon, in Palestine and Berkeley
Patty Hearst heard the burst of Roland's Thompson gun and bought it

Still one of my favorites.

[COL Mustard]

38. Warren left much too soon

He really liked the darker side but wrote some great songs.

[dchill]

39. Many, many great songs.

Hard to believe he's been gone for 20 years. He still seems so... current.

[stopdiggin]

41. much as I loved the song (and Warren)

I never really understood the (delayed, and therefor deliberate and pointed?) "and bought it"
Was there some underground tongue in cheek there that I was never cool enough to 'get'?

[Orrex]

33. Accidentally discharged while he was cleaning it, no doubt.

[Diraven]

37. I thought it was never the gun's fault

That's the argument they keep using to say why we can't ban assault weapons.

[sop]

45. How does that old NRA excuse go? Guns don't kill people, people kill people?

[OAITW r.2.0]

3. Would like to know more about Kevin.

What made him so paranoid?

I'm 5 years older, live with the Skippa, and I'm on a road that people take when they are exploring the area (actually, it's my drive way).

I have an Agawam Arms .22 single shot (a birthdate gift from my Dad, back in 1972) with no ammo and a slingshot with 500 rounds of 3/4" clay balls for zen targets. Fabbed Steel/Cast iron components hung for me to nail and make a sound..... 75 feet from my deck.

[paleotn]

20. Years of Fux News and internet crazy if I had to guess.

Relatively long driveway here off a dirt road. People occasionally drive down it in the summer, out of state tourists mostly, but they quickly notice the house and garage, back up and drive away. Sometimes, if I'm outside on weekends they'll ask directions. Shooting at them really never occurred to me. I don't get it. I really don't.

[OAITW r.2.0]

23. My point exactly.

But these people picked the wrong road to make a normal human mistake on. Fuck Kevin, live the rest of your miserable life in a cage.

[paleotn]

24. Agreed.

[jaxexpat]

21. Sounds like you've made all the necessary preparations. Good on ya.

[LoisB]

4. Good.

[sinkingfeeling]

5. Good. Does anyone know the recommended sentence for 2nd. degree murder in NY?

[Jacson6]

31. A maximum ofTwenty-five years to life. n/t

[MyOwnPeace]

7. Too bad the guy he wasn't in a southern state like Florida......

they probably would have made him the head of the State Police - and held a 'medal' ceremony for him at the State Capitol.

[jaxexpat]

22. In Florida he'd already be head of the state police.

[exboyfil]

34. You joke but it took weeks for a Texas man

to be charged when someone pulled into his driveway (at the end of suburban cul de sac) to look at his phone, and the guy shot him. Still awaiting the trial, and the only reason he probably was charged was the foreign national's country screamed to high heaven.

I just looked it up and he got convicted of manslaughter (it was murder in my mind like this case).

https://www.wcax.com/2023/11/03/texas-man-convicted-manslaughter-driveway-shooting-that-killed-moroccan-immigrant/

(AP) - A Texas man has been convicted of manslaughter in the fatal shooting of a Moroccan immigrant who had pulled into the driveway.

A Caldwell County jury on Thursday rejected a murder charge and convicted 67-year-old Terry Duane Turner of the lesser count in the October 2021 shooting death of 31-year-old Adil Dghoughi outside Turner’s home in Martindale, about 30 miles (50 kilometers) south of Austin.

Family members of Dghoughi, who lived in Austin, have said he was lost and prosecutors said he was trying to leave the driveway when he was shot.

Turner said he shot in self-defense and testified that he thought Dghoughi pointed a gun at him, but no weapon was found inside the vehicle. Turner testified that he was concerned someone was trying to rob or harm him when he saw a strange vehicle in his driveway about 3:30 a.m., grabbed a gun and then went outside to confront the driver,

Looked up additional details. SIX FUCKING MONTHS. YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME.


The 67-year-old Turner will spend six months in jail after he shot and killed Dghoughi in October 2021. Judge Chris Schneider said Turner must serve the first 140 days immediately. He'll then return to jail for two days on the anniversary of Dghoughi's death and repeat the process on Dghoughi's birthday.

[MyOwnPeace]

40. Sadly, I wasn't joking......

Just the crazy times in which we live…..

[HuskyOffset]

47. It's insanity

Turner testified that he was concerned someone was trying to rob or harm him when he saw a strange vehicle in his driveway about 3:30 a.m., grabbed a gun and then went outside to confront the driver

Wouldn't a normal reaction in this situation be to hunker down inside your house and call the police? The only reason to grab your gun & exit is because you're looking for a confrontation and a chance to shoot someone.

[exboyfil]

49. Yes

Also a case could probably be made that the car was still in the easement part of the driveway (at least in part). All the man did was back up to get away from the nut with a gun. Texas is fucking insane, and this case didn't get nearly the press that it should have. Morocco should have been livid. It is pretty typical of the South though (the India man who had his neck broken by a cop and the Japanese man gunned down on the doorstep of a residence on Halloween).

[progressoid]

8. he believed the house he shared with his wife was "under siege"

This is the result of decades of RW fearmongering.

[Merlot]

9. A "defective gun" with surprisingly accurate aim.

[BaronChocula]

10. If that's not Stefanik's district

it's pretty damn close. Figures.

[Karma13612]

44. Yup, looks like it is.

It’s in Washington County which Wikipedia says is part of “Good ‘ol NY-21”

Bursting with pride once again that I live in such an auspicious district represented by such a fine upstanding selfless dedicated public servant.




Ohh, who am I kidding? She’s a heartless cruel wart on rump’s over-sized tangerine butt.

I positively HATE her.

[Aristus]

11. Sleep with one eye open, asshole.

And get used to the idea that you will be murdered very suddenly and unexpectedly.

[Farmer-Rick]

12. You can not find my farm on Google map

Google doesn't seem to know my address. I have a long driveway that looks like a dirt road.

You would be surprised at how many people get to my gate and realize they got the wrong house. Google can't lead them there. So, I don't know how they manage to get so lost. But they do. And I never shot at a single one of them.

This guy must have some amount of people getting lost at his place at one time or another. He has to have had people lost on his driveway before. Why the sudden lethal attack? That's what makes me wonder. Why did he shoot to kill this time?

[thesquanderer]

19. Maybe he'd fired the gun at others but never hit anyone before? n/t

[Botany]

13. If this is the case I am thinking about I think his daughter said that her dad lives alone and watches ....

…. a lot of Fox News and listens to hate talk radio. Again I might be wrong.

[Raftergirl]

16. He lives with his wife.

[Raftergirl]

14. Sentencing will be in March. He faces 25 years to life.

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/monahan-jury-deliberate-consider-lesser-charge-18622065.php

I’m fairly certain it is in Srefanik’s district.

[ZonkerHarris]

15. He should be shot and get to bleed out just like his victim.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

17. Nothing will bring her back, but did he at least have to look at photos of his 'work'?

[barbtries]

18. that defense is kinda not a defense.

not surprising that he was convicted. you don't just go outside and shoot someone for being on your driveway!

i think that some gun nuts, not all of them, but some of them, secretly itch to blow someone away. too many of them.

[lapfog_1]

26. first rule of gun safety

never point a gun at someone or some animal you do NOT intend to shoot.

[TexasBushwhacker]

28. And you're safer indoors without your gun than outdoors with it

[Salviati]

30. And don't shoot at anything living that you don't intend to kill

[lapfog_1]

32. his claim is that the gun malfunctioned and he didn't intend to shoot

but he DID intend to point the gun at the car... and the person inside the car.

Never mind that he very likely pulled the trigger. If he wanted to scare off "intruders' he could have walked out onto his porch WITH the gun pointing at the ground... or at the very most, fired a shot in some other direction than the car(s).

But he aimed the gun at the moving car, probably leading it a little bit to make sure he hit the car and the occupants. At that point it really doesn't matter if he pulled the trigger or the gun misfired. It was intentional and therefore, murder.

[swong19104]

27. Defective gun?

How's that for a "well-regulated" militia? If you have a gun, according to the 2A, you need to be well-regulated and trained. Keep that gun non-defective. Do defective guns just go off without someone pulling the trigger? Do defective guns self-aim at targets?

[Thunderbeast]

29. The person holdinng the gun is responsible for it's "safe" operation

The murder charge is apppropriate. I hope he is bankrupted in a civil trial.

[The Wizard]

36. You can't un-pull a trigger

[llmart]

42. Hope he gets life without parole.

That'll give him something REAL to be afraid of instead of the imaginary threats this asshole sees around every corner. He'll be sharing quarters with some mighty evil guys and who knows what might tick some of them off at any given time.

[Novara]

43. Second degree murder.

Enjoy your time in prison, motherfucker.

[johnnyfins]

46. Of course the gun was defective

Cant claim self defense if the car w a s driving AWAY.

[TigressDem]

48. The only thing "defective" was "THE MAN" holding a gun at cars heading away from him and firing