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brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 05:42 PM Jan 2024

RFK Jr. 'looking at' being Libertarian Party candidate

Source: CNN

Independent Presidential candidate RFK Jr. says he would seal the border and "we need a quicker path to citizenship." And while he says "we won't have any problem getting on the ballot," he's "looking at" being the Libertarian Party candidate.


Read more: https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/01/27/smr-rfk-jr-on-his-third-party-challenge.cnn

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RFK Jr. 'looking at' being Libertarian Party candidate (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2024 OP
It is hard to get onto the ballot without being the nominee of a party who has qualified in the past LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2024 #1
Trump VP? He's probably assessing the fastest way to ascend to the presidency, knowing Trump won't last four years. TheBlackAdder Jan 2024 #31
What a slap in the face to his father and uncle. Lunabell Jan 2024 #2
His grandfather was no slouch bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #3
Also quite simply a gangster. Voltaire2 Jan 2024 #11
What would you say about Ted's 1980 primary challenge to President Carter? SouthBayDem Jan 2024 #24
Apples and oranges. Lunabell Jan 2024 #41
He would've been a walking opposition research dossier in the '80 general SouthBayDem Jan 2024 #45
So, you know Ted Kennedy's mind. Lunabell Jan 2024 #47
Rose his fathers sister homegirl Jan 2024 #28
She was institutionalized because doctors cut out part of her brain Mosby Jan 2024 #35
Caroline Kennedy Schollsberg doesn't like him either. ificandream Jan 2024 #4
I saw the pics long after the fact, but her and John Jr. DemocraticPatriot Jan 2024 #15
My dad's cousin was her tutor in the WH. DFW Jan 2024 #19
LOL, I had to reread BlueMTexpat Jan 2024 #21
I never met JFK DFW Jan 2024 #22
I lived in Massachusetts and had a chance to see JFK in a parade when he was Senator. ificandream Jan 2024 #27
I saw JFK speak at the opening of Dulles Airport in Reston, VA in 1963 DFW Jan 2024 #29
My college roommate was in Caroline's nursery school class at the WH. And Caroline was at her Raftergirl Jan 2024 #30
Who knows? My dad's cousin might have interacted with your roommate as well! DFW Jan 2024 #32
It's quite likely, actually. IIRC, there were only about 5-6 kids in the nursery school and Caroline was still in Raftergirl Jan 2024 #37
I met Rocky" a few times, too DFW Jan 2024 #46
My Dad met then-Governor Rockefeller, too. Rhiannon12866 Jan 2024 #48
I went to the baths once about 30 years ago. Raftergirl Jan 2024 #49
Caroline still number one on my list of people I would like to meet. twodogsbarking Jan 2024 #23
The Libertarian Party has a long and storied history BumRushDaShow Jan 2024 #5
Gotta love how heckles65 Jan 2024 #6
Why would someone posing as an ENVIRONMENTALIST ever run as a Libertarian? pnwmom Jan 2024 #7
It would probably be better for us if he did, DemocraticPatriot Jan 2024 #14
No, it wouldn't, and here is the reason why. pnwmom Jan 2024 #17
Delusional and self-important, like Ralph Nader. keithbvadu2 Jan 2024 #8
Go for it! People think he's a Democrat LeftInTX Jan 2024 #9
Democrats won't vote for a Libertarian. I see some in Freeper land suggesting that Kennedy Demsrule86 Jan 2024 #12
That's why he should do it! Kennedy has got 15% in the last poll. Trump has 45% LeftInTX Jan 2024 #13
He's just as likely to take votes from some misinformed Democrats pnwmom Jan 2024 #18
I think he would likely take votes from the Republican side. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #34
All those Republicans who loved Ted and John Kennedy or care about the environment? pnwmom Jan 2024 #36
Yes. But were those nutty progressives going to vote Biden? Did they vote for him in 2020? LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #38
The only thing RFK, Jr should be looking at Randomthought Jan 2024 #10
I think it's greed. Someone is paying him. mucifer Jan 2024 #26
He's looking for highest bidder -- byronius Jan 2024 #16
Money looking for relevance DFW Jan 2024 #20
a 'roid-rager is a perfect choice to lead the Party of No Regulation Bucky Jan 2024 #25
Have to wonder who he has as friends. LiberalFighter Jan 2024 #33
He has 8 kids - including Cheryl's daughter womanofthehills Jan 2024 #43
The Librarian Party. I don't think they would want him an anti-vaxxer on their ticket. madinmaryland Jan 2024 #39
A lot of them are anti-vax and anti-mask Jose Garcia Jan 2024 #42
Oh sorry. I thought this was about librarians. I need to wear my glasses more often. madinmaryland Jan 2024 #44
how fun for him prodigitalson Jan 2024 #40

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
1. It is hard to get onto the ballot without being the nominee of a party who has qualified in the past
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 06:04 PM
Jan 2024

I remember that Kanye spent a ton of money and only got onto a limited number of state ballots


TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
31. Trump VP? He's probably assessing the fastest way to ascend to the presidency, knowing Trump won't last four years.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 01:27 PM
Jan 2024

He'll be a great spoiler in the Libertarian Party, but he'll probably entertain a Trump VP slot too.

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
2. What a slap in the face to his father and uncle.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 06:43 PM
Jan 2024

How does one fall so far down a rabbit hole?

bucolic_frolic

(55,140 posts)
3. His grandfather was no slouch
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 06:54 PM
Jan 2024

He was an international businessman as they were known in the day, Chairman of the SEC, Ambassador to Great Britain. He opposed FDR's 3rd term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy_Sr.

Kennedy and Roosevelt
The Uneasy Alliance
Michael Beschloss

Voltaire2

(15,377 posts)
11. Also quite simply a gangster.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 10:02 PM
Jan 2024

But yeah he spent wisely on cleaning up the family name and finances.

SouthBayDem

(33,282 posts)
24. What would you say about Ted's 1980 primary challenge to President Carter?
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 12:24 PM
Jan 2024

Back then Ted Kennedy got 38% of the primary vote, at a time when President Carter’s approval ratings were declining due to a bad economy and the hostage crisis.

SouthBayDem

(33,282 posts)
45. He would've been a walking opposition research dossier in the '80 general
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:26 AM
Jan 2024

because Chappaquiddick was still in recent memory, and wasn't he notorious back then for his weaknesses for booze and bimbos?

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
47. So, you know Ted Kennedy's mind.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 06:09 AM
Jan 2024

And what he would be today. That's pretty presumptuous to know a dead man's thoughts. Also, pretty much every man in poiltical power in the 60's and 70's had a penchant for booze and "bimbos", he just got caught. Besides Jimmy Carter, name one that didn't.

homegirl

(1,965 posts)
28. Rose his fathers sister
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 12:59 PM
Jan 2024

had severe mental issues. Was finally confined to an institution. DNA lurks, and now we see it!

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
35. She was institutionalized because doctors cut out part of her brain
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 02:03 PM
Jan 2024

Because the doctors consensus at the time said that lobotomies were a legitimate treatment, and if Joe and his wife Rose wanted to help their daughter they should let doctors chop up her brain. If CPS existed at the time they would have probably threatened to take away their daughter if this accepted treatment wasn't performed. She could kill herself, the social workers counseled.

Unfortunately the quack treatment didn't work out too well, she couldn't speak or walk properly after her frontal lobes were separated from the rest of her brain, so she had to be put in an institution because she couldn't take care of herself.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
4. Caroline Kennedy Schollsberg doesn't like him either.
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 07:55 PM
Jan 2024

Giving away my age, I fondly remember the pics of her as a little girl playing with her dad.


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DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
15. I saw the pics long after the fact, but her and John Jr.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 02:14 AM
Jan 2024

were just a few years older than me....

I was 11 mos at the time of the assassination


DFW

(60,186 posts)
19. My dad's cousin was her tutor in the WH.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 04:37 AM
Jan 2024

She is now 92, and still going strong in DC, as is her husband, who, at 96, look 25 years younger.

BlueMTexpat

(15,690 posts)
21. LOL, I had to reread
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 05:29 AM
Jan 2024

your post before I realized that the "she" who is 92 refers to your cousin, NOT CKS! I am apparently not fully awake yet.

Having been a college senior on that horrific day when JFK was murdered, I knew that CKS could NOT be 92 since even I am not at that venerable age yet.

What a lovely connection you have to one of my all-time heroes!

DFW

(60,186 posts)
22. I never met JFK
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 05:47 AM
Jan 2024

My dad and RFK, Sr. were good friends. Pierre Salinger lived near us, and my dad asked him for a favor early in 1963. Salinger was able to comply with my dad’s request, and on my 11th birthday, I got an autographed photo of JFK made out to me personally. I still have that photo, in its original frame, here in my house in Germany.

ificandream

(11,837 posts)
27. I lived in Massachusetts and had a chance to see JFK in a parade when he was Senator.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 12:47 PM
Jan 2024

I opted to go to a Three Stooges movie instead. Boy do I regret that.

I did see RFK campaigning days before he was assassinated. Very profound speech. I had to stand in the middle of a bush to see him. Never forget the spotlight behind his head illuminating him. Wish I had a picture of that.

Also saw Teddy at a ceremony in California.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
29. I saw JFK speak at the opening of Dulles Airport in Reston, VA in 1963
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 01:09 PM
Jan 2024

But that was as close as I ever got. My dad and RFK became good friends after he was elected Senator from NY, so I met him several times, even was a schoolmate of Joe and Bobby, Jr. in DC for a year. I saw Teddy speak at the Denver convention in 2008, when Obama was nominated, but never got the chance to meet him. RFK once signed a photo, saying, "to (my dad), with high regard." I still have that one, too. I used to think it was a big deal to have a similar photo of FDR made out to "his friend," my grandfather, but I later found out that he used to do that a lot, way more than other presidents did. Still, it is in his handwriting, and not everyone's grandfather got one. My family's Democratic roots go back a couple of generations!

Raftergirl

(1,856 posts)
30. My college roommate was in Caroline's nursery school class at the WH. And Caroline was at her
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 01:27 PM
Jan 2024

sister’s birthday party when JFK was killed.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
32. Who knows? My dad's cousin might have interacted with your roommate as well!
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 01:33 PM
Jan 2024

I wouldn't know, but it's not impossible.

Raftergirl

(1,856 posts)
37. It's quite likely, actually. IIRC, there were only about 5-6 kids in the nursery school and Caroline was still in
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 02:57 PM
Jan 2024

nursery at the time of JFK’s assassination.

My roommate’s sister (whose birthday party it was) also was dating John John (which is what they still called him then) when he was in high school at Collegiate (can’t remember which private school the sister was at) when we were Freshman. Iirc, it didn’t last long. My roommate went to boarding school in CT and her best friend was Nelson Rockefeller’s granddaughter, who was at the same boarding school. She came and stayed with us a few times and you would never know she was from a billionaire’s family.

DFW

(60,186 posts)
46. I met Rocky" a few times, too
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 02:15 AM
Jan 2024

My dad knew him well, as his job required him to meet frequently with whoever was Governor of New York, starting with Dewey. I still have a photo of me and Rockefeller, with me in a traditional Russian folklore shirt and a guitar when a balalaika-playing friend and I were hired to play for him and Gerry Ford at a reception at the National Press Club in Washington. That was a different era on another planet! I never met any of his granddaughters, but by 1975, I had already known my future wife for a year, and my social life was already totally focused on trying to make that bond permanent, something of which she was far from convinced at that point. With half the guys in northern Germany chasing after her, and me still living in America, it was an uphill battle. I finally won out, but it was not a free ride by any means!

Rhiannon12866

(255,526 posts)
48. My Dad met then-Governor Rockefeller, too.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 07:19 AM
Jan 2024

As president of the Saratoga Chamber of Commerce, he worked with the governor on promoting tourism, as if Saratoga needed it. One of the issues was promoting the "baths" which was one of the first reasons for tourists to visit a couple of centuries ago. When I was a kid, I had a button that my Dad came up with which said "Had a bath lately?" My Dad had a sense of humor.

Raftergirl

(1,856 posts)
49. I went to the baths once about 30 years ago.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 09:59 AM
Jan 2024

I felt like I had walked into an insane asylum! I also couldn’t stand the smell.

I do love going to the races, we usually go a few times during the meet and to SPAC a few times each summer.

My husband has worked for every Governor since Mario. He worked the longest and closest to Andrew, who made his life (and by extension mine) a living hell until he retired in July 2020. Dealing with the pandemic and the administration was going to kill him if he didn’t retire. Thankfully he had his 30 years so could retire with full pension.

BumRushDaShow

(169,759 posts)
5. The Libertarian Party has a long and storied history
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 08:02 PM
Jan 2024

(including conventions - I remember actually watching the one when Bob Barr (former R GA-7) was on their ticket for President in 2008 after a bunch of rounds of voting. As a 3rd party, they probably pick up the most votes among the pile (which usually includes Green Party and often Constitution Party).

I can't see them suddenly welcoming him with open arms.

heckles65

(631 posts)
6. Gotta love how
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 08:30 PM
Jan 2024

libertarians effectively "find Jesus," and concoct a reverse-engineered reason why the usually grasping and incompetent government should come between employment seeking immigrants and labor seeking employers.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
7. Why would someone posing as an ENVIRONMENTALIST ever run as a Libertarian?
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 09:02 PM
Jan 2024

What a whack job.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
14. It would probably be better for us if he did,
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 02:12 AM
Jan 2024

rather than on his own new independent party.....

Why would a Democrat pose vaxx conspiracies, it goes on and on... there is no figuring him out,
but I'd rather see him on an established right-wing party ballot
than on an additional "new party" ballot line...


pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
17. No, it wouldn't, and here is the reason why.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 03:18 AM
Jan 2024

The Libertarian party is already qualified for a line on the ballot. If he were to run on his own, he'd have to get qualified personally in 50 states, which would be much harder.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
12. Democrats won't vote for a Libertarian. I see some in Freeper land suggesting that Kennedy
Sat Jan 27, 2024, 11:08 PM
Jan 2024

could be Trump's VP...He is not a Democrat...and is completely unprincipled.

LeftInTX

(34,295 posts)
13. That's why he should do it! Kennedy has got 15% in the last poll. Trump has 45%
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 12:26 AM
Jan 2024

Cornel West and Green eats up another 5%. This leaves Biden at 35%

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
18. He's just as likely to take votes from some misinformed Democrats
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 03:20 AM
Jan 2024

who were misled by the Kennedy name, or the supposed concern he has for the environment or his anti-vax views.

pnwmom

(110,261 posts)
36. All those Republicans who loved Ted and John Kennedy or care about the environment?
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 02:54 PM
Jan 2024

Unfortunately, there are some nutty progressives who appreciate his nutty vaccine views, too.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
38. Yes. But were those nutty progressives going to vote Biden? Did they vote for him in 2020?
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 03:27 PM
Jan 2024

DFW

(60,186 posts)
20. Money looking for relevance
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 04:49 AM
Jan 2024

It often wastes the first while never achieving the second.

That won’t stop Bobby from doing some damage if he can manage it, but it will never make him more than one of history’s many forgotten footnotes.

He would have done the world (and himself) a lot more good if he had remained a professor of environmental law at Pace. Apparently, he was appreciated there. My daughter went to Pace Law while he taught there, although she rarely saw him, as she was studying international law—a wise choice, as it turned out. He spoke at graduation, and seemed compos mentis at the time, although that was 14 years ago.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
43. He has 8 kids - including Cheryl's daughter
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 06:21 PM
Jan 2024

And most of them work with him. His campaign manager is now his daughter in law.

madinmaryland

(65,729 posts)
39. The Librarian Party. I don't think they would want him an anti-vaxxer on their ticket.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 03:53 PM
Jan 2024

Or any anti-intelligent stuff.

Jose Garcia

(3,506 posts)
42. A lot of them are anti-vax and anti-mask
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 06:17 PM
Jan 2024

I think that his economic policies are what would keep the Libertarians away from him.

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