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ificandream

(11,836 posts)
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 09:59 PM Jan 2024

Nancy Pelosi seeks FBI probe into protesters calling for a cease-fire in Gaza

Source: NBC News

By Summer Concepcion
Jan. 28, 2024, 11:39 AM PST

Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., on Sunday said she hopes to ask the FBI to investigate protesters calling for a cease-fire in the Israel-Hamas war and suggested that some of the antiwar demonstrations are linked to Russia. During an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union,” the former House speaker shared her belief that some of the protesters are “connected” to Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“For them to call for a cease-fire is Mr. Putin’s message, Mr. Putin’s message. Make no mistake. This is directly connected to what he would like to see. Same thing with Ukraine. It’s about Putin’s message,” Pelosi said.

“I think some of these — some of these protesters are spontaneous and organic and sincere. Some, I think, are connected to Russia, and I say that having looked at this for a long time now,” she continued.

Pressed on whether she thinks some of the protesters are Russian plants, Pelosi said she would like to have the FBI look into the matter. “I didn’t say they’re plants. I think some financing should be investigated,” she said. “And I want to ask the FBI to investigate that.”


Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/nancy-pelosi-seeks-fbi-probe-protesters-calling-cease-fire-gaza-rcna136068

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Nancy Pelosi seeks FBI probe into protesters calling for a cease-fire in Gaza (Original Post) ificandream Jan 2024 OP
NBC's headline is horrible. lapucelle Jan 2024 #1
Easy. Igel Jan 2024 #107
Nope. Investigating the source of funding is not the same lapucelle Jan 2024 #108
I don't know about in-person protestors; but the social media discourse has a large Russian troll farm feel. LonePirate Jan 2024 #2
I have seen more than one story that also reported that Russia is behind a lot of these protests Bev54 Jan 2024 #14
Step carefully. SarahD Jan 2024 #3
and... sheshe2 Jan 2024 #8
My friends. SarahD Jan 2024 #10
Well then, as a friend, you should ask them revmclaren Jan 2024 #11
Do you really think that someone is paying students and young people to protest? Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #20
No, but like 1/6, Russia is paying my to stir the pot bottomofthehill Jan 2024 #30
Party for Socialism and Liberation. They're a political party with their own presidential candidates. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #94
My campus in the '90s had protests. Igel Jan 2024 #109
This is a ridiculous argument. Hope22 Jan 2024 #23
She is not investigating the individual protesters Lulu KC Jan 2024 #25
Seriously, they say this about every protest in this country. Hope22 Jan 2024 #31
Some Protesters Are in the Streets Cheering on HAMAS Cha Jan 2024 #124
22 second clip versus a lifetime of good works on our behalf Hmmmm Hekate Jan 2024 #76
A FUCKING MEN! Lunabell Jan 2024 #95
Nancy Pelosi Knows What She's Doing. Cha Jan 2024 #121
In 2016 the Russian dis info campaign was aimed at provoking people Yoyoyo77 Jan 2024 #128
Remember when you used to protest on the streets? Hope22 Jan 2024 #32
I am a child of the 1960s and I never, NEVER participated in violence or destruction... Hekate Jan 2024 #64
Looking back at the BLM protests Hope22 Jan 2024 #73
I was 100% in favor of the Portland BLM. They were fantastic. And yes, there were provacateurs. Hekate Jan 2024 #75
Hear Hear, Ma'am The Magistrate Jan 2024 #116
Sir... Hekate Jan 2024 #129
Yes. Exhausting. yardwork Jan 2024 #134
Russia was behind ( partially ) the Hamas attack on Israel lapfog_1 Jan 2024 #19
Exactly Hekate Jan 2024 #65
Keep in mind everything we say Russia is behind Hope22 Jan 2024 #78
Russia interfered long before Trump ran for president. In fact they were instrumental in his election Hekate Jan 2024 #101
Yes and they were involved in the 2016 election! Yea!! We agree on something!!!!!! Hope22 Jan 2024 #106
I don't imagine I underestimate either Trump or Russia Hekate Jan 2024 #111
... Cha Jan 2024 #122
Many Protesters are Cheering on HAMAS in the Streets. Cha Jan 2024 #120
We've seen the "protesters" in the Streets Cheering for HAMAS.. Cha Jan 2024 #84
I agree. sheshe2 Jan 2024 #87
Yes With their Stupid Vicious Cha Jan 2024 #90
Give me a moment, let me think..... sheshe2 Jan 2024 #92
And the Trailer 😡 Cha Jan 2024 #93
Many of them actually do. Bev54 Jan 2024 #15
How do you know that? claudette Jan 2024 #80
There have been many different articles tracing funding and organizing back to certain Russians Bev54 Jan 2024 #105
Well i believe claudette Jan 2024 #113
But the fact is they ARE supporting Putin. He is orchestrating their every move, that is the point. Bev54 Jan 2024 #114
So what is claudette Jan 2024 #115
Where did she say any of that? If you "don't understand" perhaps you should get to know Pelosi's long record Hekate Jan 2024 #123
If You Don't Understand, Ma'am, That Is By Choice, Not Genuine Confusion The Magistrate Jan 2024 #126
Well I can see with my own eyes many of Cha Jan 2024 #125
This, Bev54, absolutely this Hekate Jan 2024 #118
There was no suggestion of round ups. She said bottomofthehill Jan 2024 #29
Too late for that here SunImp Jan 2024 #67
Fortunately, we have no authority. SarahD Jan 2024 #70
You don't know this.. we've seen the "protesters" in the Cha Jan 2024 #83
Nancy Pelosi is NOT talking about "wholesale roundups".. those Cha Jan 2024 #117
Who said anything about roundups? yardwork Jan 2024 #135
I don't see this as a 'good look' for us... DemocraticPatriot Jan 2024 #4
For real! Hope22 Jan 2024 #24
I have NO idea of what to make of this; womanofthehills Jan 2024 #61
My God, that's what she thinks? Basic LA Jan 2024 #62
22 second clip. When was this event? Right after the savage invasion? What else did she say? Hekate Jan 2024 #66
Looks to be the 2018 Israel America Council Conference. PufPuf23 Jan 2024 #88
Riiiight. A 22-second clip from 2018 and DU gets a pile-on trashing Nancy Pelosi. Hekate Jan 2024 #89
22 second clip. Something is missing here, like a date Hekate Jan 2024 #71
I do.. Nancy Pelosi Knows What's she's Doing. Cha Jan 2024 #85
Or this statement ?? All over social media today!! womanofthehills Jan 2024 #112
That's a reference to Neville Roy Singham. His deep pockets are funding astroturf events. lapucelle Jan 2024 #130
Neville Roy Singham funds The People's forum via a Goldman Sachs "philanthropic foundation". lapucelle Jan 2024 #131
Singham is married to Code Pink's founder Jodie Evans. lapucelle Jan 2024 #132
Democracy Now's third party shill Amy Goodman is a friend of Singham and Evans lapucelle Jan 2024 #133
Why don't the protesters harass Republicans???? LeftInTX Jan 2024 #5
Because they know Trump would have them shot Kennah Jan 2024 #6
They don't even target Tony Gonzales (R), but target Joaquin Castro. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #42
You are correct. Kennah Jan 2024 #44
Perhaps they were directed not to. Hm. sheshe2 Jan 2024 #9
Maybe because Tr*mp doesn't have any authority to stop the bloodshed now Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #36
Nancy doesn't. The R's in the House do. They also target Joaquin Castro, but leave Tony Gonzales (R) alone. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #40
Nancy's not the commander-in-chief Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #46
They are targeting Nancy too. They are outside her house day and night. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #48
Perhaps, just perhaps, Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #50
Party of Socialism and Liberation and ANSWER is behind many of them LeftInTX Jan 2024 #51
I've been here long enough to remember when DU members Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #54
PSL is a Political Party & has a candidate for Pres LeftInTX Jan 2024 #59
Some were. Some of us were not. Hekate Jan 2024 #69
So? This is NOW.. when HAMAS fans are in the Cha Jan 2024 #86
And Many Did Not The Magistrate Jan 2024 #119
Well well well. This is a useful reminder, LeftInTX Hekate Jan 2024 #68
Trump & his brain dead followers think he is President & he calls for violence & they respond Hekate Jan 2024 #100
Because they know it's pointless Polybius Jan 2024 #52
If their best idea is to crash a holiday party for elderly Civil Rights veterans and punch an old lady Hekate Jan 2024 #63
Maybe Democrats will "know better", when Hamas returns the hostages RandomNumbers Jan 2024 #96
Hell yes x 1000 Hekate Jan 2024 #56
Good move orangecrush Jan 2024 #7
Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #12
Who are you suggesting "Nan," as you call her, is being "obsequious" about? SunSeeker Jan 2024 #13
Trump's skells support Putin The Wizard Jan 2024 #16
We have had many years of evidence, as well as reports from intelligence and cybersecurity experts, summer_in_TX Jan 2024 #17
Pelosi Wants F.B.I. to Investigate Pro-Palestinian Protesters mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2024 #18
Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #21
Thank you Goddessartist Jan 2024 #22
They're anti-Biden protests. Who is anti-Biden? LeftInTX Jan 2024 #38
I'm both pro-Biden claudette Jan 2024 #81
It would be good for all of us to read the article, not just the headline n/t Lulu KC Jan 2024 #26
I'm still waiting for my check from George Soros DBoon Jan 2024 #27
Russia engineered this whole situation. Irish_Dem Jan 2024 #28
My guess is that all of this turmoil leads back to our State secrets that TFG Hope22 Jan 2024 #34
Yes exactly. The CIA and Mossad were completely surprised by the attack. Irish_Dem Jan 2024 #58
Russia was behind the Bernie Bros. gab13by13 Jan 2024 #33
Right on my friend! We cannot ignore their meddling FakeNoose Jan 2024 #41
I wish you had told me sooner SCantiGOP Jan 2024 #49
Since Israel has been funding "grassroots" social media for at least a decade, they'd naturally assume their opponents muriel_volestrangler Jan 2024 #35
Yay! Because investigating war protesters is a core Democratic value! Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #37
You didn't read what Pelosi said. gab13by13 Jan 2024 #39
Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #43
Nope. Nancy Pelosi is not Nixon Hekate Jan 2024 #74
We need congressional hearings. Basic LA Jan 2024 #45
Lol. LMAO even (n/t) Seeking Serenity Jan 2024 #47
Time for some HUAC hearings? Marcus IM Jan 2024 #53
I trust Nancy Pelosi waaaay more than I trust anyone calling Biden "Genocide Joe" ... Hekate Jan 2024 #55
Didn't you see, that didn't really happen! AZSkiffyGeek Jan 2024 #60
Nancy knows something. Emile Jan 2024 #57
Maybe if she claudette Jan 2024 #79
The Right To Protest independent think Jan 2024 #72
How do you know he's (Biden) not? tazkcmo Jan 2024 #99
Why? claudette Jan 2024 #77
A shadowy political party is behind most of the protests. They have their own presidential candidate. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #91
The goal claudette Jan 2024 #103
Nancy thinks they should investigate the funding behind these groups. LeftInTX Jan 2024 #104
Good ON Nancy Pelosi.. she knows WTF is going on. Cha Jan 2024 #82
She thinks? Lunabell Jan 2024 #97
UPDATE: Pelosi condemned for suggesting pro-Palestinian activists have ties to Russia brooklynite Jan 2024 #98
If Pelosi is calling for an FBI investigation, she's seen some damning stuff NickB79 Jan 2024 #102
Thank you! betsuni Jan 2024 #110
Maybe because some supporters of various protest groups revmclaren Jan 2024 #127

lapucelle

(21,052 posts)
1. NBC's headline is horrible.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 10:13 PM
Jan 2024

How does

"I think some financing should be investigated"


morph into

seeks FBI probe into protesters


Igel

(37,516 posts)
107. Easy.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 08:35 PM
Jan 2024

Via "I want to ask the FBI to investigate that". If the FBI investigates it, that's pretty much a probe. No?

lapucelle

(21,052 posts)
108. Nope. Investigating the source of funding is not the same
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 08:54 PM
Jan 2024

as investigating the protesters.

------------------------------------

I think Speaker Emerita Pelosi may have been talking about this guy:

A Global Web of Chinese Propaganda Leads to a U.S. Tech Mogul

The Times unraveled a financial network that stretches from Chicago to Shanghai and uses American nonprofits to push Chinese talking points worldwide.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/05/world/europe/neville-roy-singham-china-propaganda.html

================================

The Big Business of Uyghur Genocide Denial

A New Lines investigation reveals a network of charities funneling millions into left-wing platforms that take Beijing’s side on the genocide allegations — and they’re all connected to an American tech magnate

https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-big-business-of-uyghur-genocide-denial/

====================================

Influence Watch: Neville Roy Singham

The People’s Forum

The People’s Forum, which reportedly has been primarily funded by Singham and Jodie Evans since 2017, has organized several pro-Palestinian demonstrations since the attack on Israel by Hamas on October 7, 2023, that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis and foreign civilians and led to Israel engaging in military operations against the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

On the day of the attack, the People’s Forum failed to condemn Hamas, instead choosing to call for an end to “US aid to the Zionist occupation.” The People’s Forum organized a protest the next day on October 8, 2023, and via social media encouraged attendees to go “all out for Palestine,” and called for supporters to stand with the people of the Palestinian Territories “who have the right to resist apartheid, occupation & oppression.”

The People’s Forum executive director Manolo De Los Sar called the November 2023 March for Israel demonstration in Washington, D.C. a “Pro-Genocide March,” and accused speakers at the demonstration of being “racists” and “fake progressives.”

snip------------------------------------------

The People’s Forum has appeared to admit that it was funded by Singham. The organization stated on X, formerly Twitter, that it was “the target of a campaign that alleges our funding comes from ‘dark money’.” The organization continued by stating Singham was a “Marxist comrade who sold his company & donated most of his wealth to non-profits that focus on political education, culture & internationalism.”

https://www.influencewatch.org/person/neville-roy-singham/

LonePirate

(14,366 posts)
2. I don't know about in-person protestors; but the social media discourse has a large Russian troll farm feel.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 10:16 PM
Jan 2024

Bev54

(13,428 posts)
14. I have seen more than one story that also reported that Russia is behind a lot of these protests
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:58 AM
Jan 2024

It is like 2016 all over again and the public once again falls for it each and every time. People need to start questioning before blindly following.

 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
3. Step carefully.
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 10:23 PM
Jan 2024

Most of those protesters have nothing to do with Russia. Let's not conduct wholesale roundups.

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
11. Well then, as a friend, you should ask them
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:01 AM
Jan 2024

who's funding these 'pop up' protests. If the government gets involved, everything will be laid bare and maybe it would be wise if they were sure who really financially backs them.

Could be very embarrassing.

Lonestarblue

(13,460 posts)
20. Do you really think that someone is paying students and young people to protest?
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 05:22 AM
Jan 2024

We are a nation where public protests are common. No one pays for most of them.

LeftInTX

(34,211 posts)
94. Party for Socialism and Liberation. They're a political party with their own presidential candidates.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 06:20 PM
Jan 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation

Many of the Free Palestine and Ceasefire Now signs have PSL's logo on it.

They're even crying about Lenin's death 100 years ago.























Igel

(37,516 posts)
109. My campus in the '90s had protests.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 09:06 PM
Jan 2024

Demonstrations, if you prefer that term.

The protestors weren't paid. But I was in stu-gov and had a bird's eye view as a paid organizer came to campus, organized (d'uh),, helped plan protests, funded ideas for when/where to protest, purchases of supplies for protests, and even slogans for the signs. And materials for riling up the indifferent to participate--like all disinformation, it had truth as a hook for snagging people and not quite truth for infuriating them and making them demonstrate "against their interests".

The organizer wasn't just for our campus. He went from campus to campus in the state system doing the same. My income that year was under $15k (it was the mid-late '90s, and if you lived very frugally it wasn't poverty, not quite; his salary as a "change agent" was over 6x that ... Note that public transport was spendy for me and if it wasn't raining, it was bicycle, and burger or chix was 1-2x/week at best ... Never ask me to eat a meal of only pinto beans/Jarlsberg again ... 5-6 days a week for years ... Just no. I mean, turkey for $0.19/lb the day after T-day meant cheese/beans for 5-6 days a week and turkey for months ... and months ....)

Now, this was one campaign. But it's easy to inflame people, piss them off, get them outraged--just look at US popular media and what gets them viewers to make them $.

The organizer did his job. But the press said this was "grassroots."

Only later did I learn the term "astroturf." It wasn't a grassroots movement, it was astroturfed. Were the protestors paid? No. A small ideological minority were waiting for organization--and promptly organized the marginal. All the rest--paid for by an organization HQed far, far out of state.

Hope22

(4,723 posts)
23. This is a ridiculous argument.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 10:13 AM
Jan 2024

I question the integrity of anyone who has never been outraged enough to protest! That should be investigated! Half of the House voted to steal an election and no one called for one investigation! Over half of the House worked for a man with close ties to Putin and none of them were called to be investigated but somehow people standing up exercising their former right to protest are called from the floor to be investigated. I don’t care what they were protesting…Pelosi is off base here. I really am fed up with the hate this issue has generated here. Can you imagine people who are against war simply for the waste of death and destruction? It’s a thing and in this day and age we are forced to sit and watch without speaking out here because somehow, as usual, being against war is the crime. Enough if this ! All war without prior peace talks is vile. It is murder dressed up in a fancy uniform.

Lulu KC

(8,891 posts)
25. She is not investigating the individual protesters
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 10:59 AM
Jan 2024

She is asking that funding origins be investigated to see if the $ is coming from Russia. Bad headline.

Hope22

(4,723 posts)
31. Seriously, they say this about every protest in this country.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:09 AM
Jan 2024

Let’s read the Mueller Repost without the redaction, let’s look into the members of the House who refused to count the votes. It’s pretty clear Russian money is involved there but not a peep. Let’s start at the top!

Cha

(318,866 posts)
124. Some Protesters Are in the Streets Cheering on HAMAS
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 12:36 AM
Jan 2024

Nancy Wants an Investigation for how these GD Fuking HAMAS fans, who are Harassing Jewish People and Business, Are Funded..

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
95. A FUCKING MEN!
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 06:26 PM
Jan 2024

I am against war. Period. Normal people seek a resolution to violence, not perpetuate it. Vengeance just brings on more vengeance. A common ground must be reached so all can live in peace. War only benefits those who make the bombs and guns.

Yoyoyo77

(320 posts)
128. In 2016 the Russian dis info campaign was aimed at provoking people
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 03:08 AM
Jan 2024

from both the right and left. In some cases they provoked what they hoped were angry confrontations by having fake groups call for outraged protests against each other. What is the definition of agent provocateur?

Hope22

(4,723 posts)
32. Remember when you used to protest on the streets?
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:14 AM
Jan 2024

Remember the big fat check you got in the mail? We need to refrain from threatening protesters. You never know when you will be out there. Signed….still broke after years of protesting! PS, if you’ve never protested I can’t think of a better time to start!

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
64. I am a child of the 1960s and I never, NEVER participated in violence or destruction...
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 03:35 PM
Jan 2024

When I protested against BushCheney’s war, ditto. I was in many protests then, including in DC, ditto. No violence, not so much as a newspaper rack overturned.

How about you?

When planning group actions, it is a very good idea to know the character of those in your group. You get somebody in there agitating for violence and destruction, kick them out on their asses. That person is the one being paid — by someone. Wouldn’t you want to know who?

Hope22

(4,723 posts)
73. Looking back at the BLM protests
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:06 PM
Jan 2024

the provocateurs were causing the initial damage and violence. I do not consider them protesters. If you ask an uneducated American they will tell you it was the BLM causing the issues. In this situation I can not tell you who is violent but lumping all protesters as a problem is the big problem. People who advocate for peace deserve better than we give them.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
75. I was 100% in favor of the Portland BLM. They were fantastic. And yes, there were provacateurs.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:17 PM
Jan 2024

Back when I first joined DU in 2002, I remember some of us educating the younger less experienced about COINTELPRO.

This thread is exhausting. My gods. The whole point of some of the groups named here is to overthrow the US government.

lapfog_1

(31,893 posts)
19. Russia was behind ( partially ) the Hamas attack on Israel
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:31 AM
Jan 2024

Russia is definitely behind the "no more funding to Ukraine" from the GQP.

Russia might be behind the funding of the more radical protests here. Russia has a long history of working with "useful idiots".

Never forget that Putin is old school KGB.

Hope22

(4,723 posts)
78. Keep in mind everything we say Russia is behind
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:36 PM
Jan 2024

Is likely stemming from information our exPresident sold them. It comes full circle unless we hold the Trump family accountable. If we refuse to act it’s on all of us!

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
101. Russia interfered long before Trump ran for president. In fact they were instrumental in his election
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 07:00 PM
Jan 2024

So, not “everything” comes from Trump’s treason.

Keep in mind that Russia (under whatever name) has never been a friend to democracy or the US.

Hope22

(4,723 posts)
106. Yes and they were involved in the 2016 election! Yea!! We agree on something!!!!!!
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 08:31 PM
Jan 2024

But Trump has been involved with Russia Wayyyyyy before he went into politics. They own him. I think you might be underestimating his depth of treasonous activity but I can wait.

Cha

(318,866 posts)
84. We've seen the "protesters" in the Streets Cheering for HAMAS..
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:51 PM
Jan 2024

doesn't seem like anyone would want to call them "friends".

This is Not grassroots.. they're being Funded and Nancy Pelois is absolutely right to ask it to be investigated.

Bev54

(13,428 posts)
105. There have been many different articles tracing funding and organizing back to certain Russians
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 08:26 PM
Jan 2024

The protesters may not know this but the organizers sure as hell do. The protesters are being used once again by Putin, just like they organized in 2016. I am afraid some people will never learn to investigate who is organizing and who is funding before they jump in.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
113. Well i believe
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 10:57 PM
Jan 2024

that most protesrors wanting a ceasefire are just regular ordinary people who want the murder to stop and don't support Putin'

Bev54

(13,428 posts)
114. But the fact is they ARE supporting Putin. He is orchestrating their every move, that is the point.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:16 PM
Jan 2024
 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
115. So what is
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 12:05 AM
Jan 2024

the FBI going to do? She wants to stop all protests? Ordinary concerned people shouldn’t be lumped in with Putin. I don’t understand.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
123. Where did she say any of that? If you "don't understand" perhaps you should get to know Pelosi's long record
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 12:28 AM
Jan 2024

She has spent her entire life safeguarding our freedoms and working to better our lives.

Personally, I am not standing for this pile-on.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
126. If You Don't Understand, Ma'am, That Is By Choice, Not Genuine Confusion
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 01:16 AM
Jan 2024

The question of who funds the organizers of crowds assembled to deride Jews and Democratic office-holders, with slogans derived from propaganda shops abroad, is a legitimate object for investigation.

It is not 'stopping all protests' or 'lumping ordinary concerned people in with Putin'.

Cha

(318,866 posts)
125. Well I can see with my own eyes many of
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 01:05 AM
Jan 2024

the Protesters Are Cheering on HAMAs in the Streets.

And harassing Jewish People and Businesses at times Violently. The People have nothing to do with them.. other than being Jewish.

Nancy wants an Investigation into who is funding these HAMAS Asshole fans.

bottomofthehill

(9,381 posts)
29. There was no suggestion of round ups. She said
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:05 AM
Jan 2024

“I didn’t say they’re plants. I think some financing should be investigated,” she said. “And I want to ask the FBI to investigate that.”

 

SarahD

(1,732 posts)
70. Fortunately, we have no authority.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 03:48 PM
Jan 2024

Our posts don't determine reckless pursuit vs. restrained inquiry. Anyway, I'm sure the FBI is already looking into the lives of protesters they consider likely candidates for Russian connections.

Cha

(318,866 posts)
83. You don't know this.. we've seen the "protesters" in the
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:47 PM
Jan 2024

streets cheering for HAMAS.

This is Not grassroots.. something is Funding these Assholes.

Nancy Pelosi is right on Target.

Cha

(318,866 posts)
117. Nancy Pelosi is NOT talking about "wholesale roundups".. those
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 12:13 AM
Jan 2024

are your words.

Hope22

(4,723 posts)
24. For real!
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 10:24 AM
Jan 2024

I have zero patience for people who have never cared enough to protest and call for investigation of protesters. I feel like a fool! Five years of biweekly protests for *’s illegal war in Iraq and not one dollar of funding! Infiltrators, yes. Our own secret service detail once, yes. And yes over 500,000 went to DC to try to stop the surge! We were accused of being paid to be there! We wanted our troops home and even the troops disliked us! Some people just aren’t wired for war. Lock them up! Pure bull$#&t.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
61. I have NO idea of what to make of this;
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 02:25 PM
Jan 2024

Nancy - “If our Capital crumbles to the ground ——

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Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
62. My God, that's what she thinks?
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 02:34 PM
Jan 2024

That our silly country matters far less than a certain supreme foreign country? That we are insignificant in comparison?

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
66. 22 second clip. When was this event? Right after the savage invasion? What else did she say?
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 03:40 PM
Jan 2024

There really is something missing here.

PufPuf23

(9,826 posts)
88. Looks to be the 2018 Israel America Council Conference.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 05:38 PM
Jan 2024

Look at the backdrop behind Pelosi and others,

2018 IAC is repeated in multiple colors.

womanofthehills

(10,988 posts)
112. Or this statement ?? All over social media today!!
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 10:07 PM
Jan 2024

Pelosi to protesters outside her house: "Go back to China where your headquarters is!"



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lapucelle

(21,052 posts)
130. That's a reference to Neville Roy Singham. His deep pockets are funding astroturf events.
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 07:18 AM
Jan 2024

Singham is headquartered in China.

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A Global Web of Chinese Propaganda Leads to a U.S. Tech Mogul

The Times unraveled a financial network that stretches from Chicago to Shanghai and uses American nonprofits to push Chinese talking points worldwide.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/05/world/europe/neville-roy-singham-china-propaganda.html

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The Big Business of Uyghur Genocide Denial

A New Lines investigation reveals a network of charities funneling millions into left-wing platforms that take Beijing’s side on the genocide allegations — and they’re all connected to an American tech magnate

https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-big-business-of-uyghur-genocide-denial/

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Influence Watch: Neville Roy Singham

The People’s Forum

The People’s Forum, which reportedly has been primarily funded by Singham and Jodie Evans since 2017, has organized several pro-Palestinian demonstrations since the attack on Israel by Hamas on October 7, 2023, that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis and foreign civilians and led to Israel engaging in military operations against the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

On the day of the attack, the People’s Forum failed to condemn Hamas, instead choosing to call for an end to “US aid to the Zionist occupation.” The People’s Forum organized a protest the next day on October 8, 2023, and via social media encouraged attendees to go “all out for Palestine,” and called for supporters to stand with the people of the Palestinian Territories “who have the right to resist apartheid, occupation & oppression.”

The People’s Forum executive director Manolo De Los Sar called the November 2023 March for Israel demonstration in Washington, D.C. a “Pro-Genocide March,” and accused speakers at the demonstration of being “racists” and “fake progressives.”

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The People’s Forum has appeared to admit that it was funded by Singham. The organization stated on X, formerly Twitter, that it was “the target of a campaign that alleges our funding comes from ‘dark money’.” The organization continued by stating Singham was a “Marxist comrade who sold his company & donated most of his wealth to non-profits that focus on political education, culture & internationalism.”

https://www.influencewatch.org/person/neville-roy-singham/

lapucelle

(21,052 posts)
131. Neville Roy Singham funds The People's forum via a Goldman Sachs "philanthropic foundation".
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 07:23 AM
Jan 2024
The People’s Forum

The People’s Forum is a socialist organization that acts as project incubator. From its location in New York City, the Forum hosts events, readings, operates a cafe and a library, and publishes various cultural works and media. It has collaborated with a number of radical-left and Marxist philosophers and activists.

Despite being a socialist organization that prides itself on its supposed working class, anti-capitalist orientations, The People’s Forum has been the recipient of over $18 million through donor-advised fund provider Goldman Sachs Philanthropy Fund.

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In 2019, The People’s Forum received $12 million through the Goldman Sachs Philanthropy Fund, a donor-advised fund provider. This was not the first time the Forum received a hefty sum in this manner: it was given $4,400,000 in 2018 and $2,500,000 in 2017 through the Philanthropy Fund.

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/the-peoples-forum/

lapucelle

(21,052 posts)
132. Singham is married to Code Pink's founder Jodie Evans.
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 07:27 AM
Jan 2024

Code Pink has been active in the anti-Israel protests targeting Democrats with accusations of genocide.

lapucelle

(21,052 posts)
133. Democracy Now's third party shill Amy Goodman is a friend of Singham and Evans
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 07:30 AM
Jan 2024

and attended their 2017 wedding.

LeftInTX

(34,211 posts)
5. Why don't the protesters harass Republicans????
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 10:51 PM
Jan 2024

Why aren't they at Trump rallies????

Why aren't that at the border harassing Greg Abbott?

LeftInTX

(34,211 posts)
42. They don't even target Tony Gonzales (R), but target Joaquin Castro.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:13 PM
Jan 2024

Tony wouldn't have them shot.

Kennah

(14,578 posts)
44. You are correct.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:17 PM
Jan 2024

I suppose they know the GOOP won't care, but thinking that Biden is the enemy and Trump is a better choice on this issue defies logic and reason.

Seeking Serenity

(3,322 posts)
36. Maybe because Tr*mp doesn't have any authority to stop the bloodshed now
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:49 AM
Jan 2024

You protest against those in power, not those who aren't in power (at least on such things as war and killing)

LeftInTX

(34,211 posts)
40. Nancy doesn't. The R's in the House do. They also target Joaquin Castro, but leave Tony Gonzales (R) alone.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:10 PM
Jan 2024

Why aren't they targeting Cruz and Cornyn? They have veto power.

Seeking Serenity

(3,322 posts)
46. Nancy's not the commander-in-chief
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:21 PM
Jan 2024

Neither are the Rs in the House.

It makes sense that the anti-war protesters would target the man who actually has authority to change things.

LeftInTX

(34,211 posts)
48. They are targeting Nancy too. They are outside her house day and night.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:31 PM
Jan 2024

Why are they targeting Joaquin Castro?

Why are they targeting our local City Council?
Why are they targeting our Jewish mayor?

Seeking Serenity

(3,322 posts)
50. Perhaps, just perhaps,
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:40 PM
Jan 2024

Protesters want to try to influence people who may have the ear of the president.

(As for your city council and mayor, I can't say. That seems rather silly and counterproductive)

LeftInTX

(34,211 posts)
51. Party of Socialism and Liberation and ANSWER is behind many of them
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:52 PM
Jan 2024

The Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) is a communist party in the United States. PSL was established in 2004, when its members split from the Workers World Party. The group believes that a socialist revolution is necessary to overthrow capitalism and establish socialism.[2] The organization works toward this end by organizing and participating in local protests, running candidates in elections, and political education favoring a revolutionary socialist vanguard party.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation

And yes, Party of Socialism and Liberation has their own candidate for president.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.N.S.W.E.R.


Anti-Israeli groups have been around for a long time. When this happened they were ready to pounce. Who is funding them?
They don't seem all that grass-roots me.



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Seeking Serenity

(3,322 posts)
54. I've been here long enough to remember when DU members
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 01:23 PM
Jan 2024

Were quite supportive of ANSWER (when it was Bush 43 they were protesting). I dont recall anyone asking questions about who was funding them then.

LeftInTX

(34,211 posts)
59. PSL is a Political Party & has a candidate for Pres
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 02:02 PM
Jan 2024

They are against the Democratic Party as much as Republicans are.

Cha

(318,866 posts)
86. So? This is NOW.. when HAMAS fans are in the
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:59 PM
Jan 2024

Streets Harassing Jewish People. and Businesses.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
119. And Many Did Not
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 12:20 AM
Jan 2024

Among other problems, when people came out for protest of the war, it packed the platform with every conceivable radical hobby-horse instead of concentrating on what people turned out for. Sort of an 'open mike' show for cranks of left persuasion. Not a serious effort....

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
100. Trump & his brain dead followers think he is President & he calls for violence & they respond
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 06:54 PM
Jan 2024

And somehow the Democrats are at fault?

Polybius

(21,877 posts)
52. Because they know it's pointless
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 01:13 PM
Jan 2024

They likely think that Democrats should know better.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
63. If their best idea is to crash a holiday party for elderly Civil Rights veterans and punch an old lady
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 03:25 PM
Jan 2024

…..in the face, they can flat out go to hell.

There is no excuse for that. Ever.

RandomNumbers

(19,151 posts)
96. Maybe Democrats will "know better", when Hamas returns the hostages
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 06:29 PM
Jan 2024

and turns over the CRIMINAL RAPISTS AND MURDERERS for trial.

Oh wait, ** I ** "know better". Hamas will continue to rape and murder, and never release the hostages (and of course it is too late for the several who are already dead). Where are the protests against that?

Recall that the current escalation was CAUSED BY HAMAS RAPING AND MUDERING civilians.

An honest person looking for something to protest might start with the actual cause of the bloodshed.

orangecrush

(30,169 posts)
7. Good move
Sun Jan 28, 2024, 11:02 PM
Jan 2024


I hope it happens.

And I don't believe age would do that without having seen proof.

Response to ificandream (Original post)

SunSeeker

(58,250 posts)
13. Who are you suggesting "Nan," as you call her, is being "obsequious" about?
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:51 AM
Jan 2024

And what is wrong with investigating who is funding these protests? That is all Pelosi asked for, if you read the actual article as opposed to the sensationalized and incorrect headline.

summer_in_TX

(4,159 posts)
17. We have had many years of evidence, as well as reports from intelligence and cybersecurity experts,
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 01:13 AM
Jan 2024

that Russia (and other unfriendly actors) have been running campaigns to exacerbate divisions in our society. They target both sides of the political divide, trying to exploit tensions and anger. I believe there's good reason to suspect that money from Russia is being directed beyond just their troll farms to social media influencers.

Of COURSE a lot of the protest is genuine and heartfelt, by good people. That doesn't erase the fact that Russia can and almost certainly does use the strong feelings of people to covertly add fuel to a fire.

mahatmakanejeeves

(69,672 posts)
18. Pelosi Wants F.B.I. to Investigate Pro-Palestinian Protesters
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 02:39 AM
Jan 2024

Last edited Mon Jan 29, 2024, 10:11 AM - Edit history (1)

Pelosi Wants F.B.I. to Investigate Pro-Palestinian Protesters

The former House speaker suggested without offering evidence that some protesters calling for a cease-fire in Gaza had financial ties to Russia and Vladimir V. Putin.



Representative Nancy Pelosi in May 2023. On Sunday, she suggested that some pro-Palestinian protesters had ties to Russia. Kenny Holston/The New York Times

By Kayla Guo
Reporting from Washington
Jan. 28, 2024

Representative Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California and the former House speaker, on Sunday called for the F.B.I. to investigate protesters demanding a cease-fire in the Israel-Hamas conflict, suggesting without evidence that some activists may have ties to Russia and President Vladimir V. Putin.

“For them to call for a cease-fire is Mr. Putin’s message,” Ms. Pelosi said during an interview on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “Make no mistake, this is directly connected to what he would like to see. Same thing with Ukraine. It’s about Putin’s message. I think some of these protesters are spontaneous and organic and sincere. Some, I think, are connected to Russia.”

When pressed on whether she believed some of the demonstrators were “Russian plants,” Ms. Pelosi said: “Seeds or plants. I think some financing should be investigated. And I want to ask the F.B.I. to investigate that.”

Ms. Pelosi, who was first elected speaker in 2007 and again in 2019, led House Democrats for 20 years before stepping aside for Representative Hakeem Jeffries of New York, the minority leader. Still, she remains influential among congressional Democrats. Her remarks appear to be the first time a prominent U.S. politician has publicly suggested Russia may be backing cease-fire protests to help foment division among Democrats. … The Council on American-Islamic Relations condemned Ms. Pelosi’s comments as “an unsubstantiated smear” and “downright authoritarian.”

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Response to ificandream (Original post)

Goddessartist

(2,176 posts)
22. Thank you
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 08:35 AM
Jan 2024

for this. It's totally ridiculous, and of course the anti Palestinian crowd is thrilled.

For far too long, the Palestinians have been vilified, and now protesting for their existence, protesting against genocide, is being condemned.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
81. I'm both pro-Biden
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:39 PM
Jan 2024

and pro-ceasefire. That certainly IS possible without being on the side of Putin.

DBoon

(24,967 posts)
27. I'm still waiting for my check from George Soros
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:02 AM
Jan 2024

I thought he was paying for these protests

Hope22

(4,723 posts)
34. My guess is that all of this turmoil leads back to our State secrets that TFG
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:19 AM
Jan 2024

Littered across the globe. Get everyone to hate each other just a little bit more and collect the money. Seems right! He needs to be tried for all of it!

Irish_Dem

(81,135 posts)
58. Yes exactly. The CIA and Mossad were completely surprised by the attack.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 01:59 PM
Jan 2024

There is no way HAMAS could have conducted such a top notch, top secret terrorist attack.

I also suspect Trump helped this attack happen with the classified intel he sold to other countries.

gab13by13

(32,219 posts)
33. Russia was behind the Bernie Bros.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:17 AM
Jan 2024

We ignore Russia’s meddling at our own peril.

I guarantee that Nancy Pelosi has inside information.

Federalist Society member Chris Wray will get right on it.

It is possible that the swatting phone calls come from Russia.

Putin dearly wants Trump to become president.

FakeNoose

(41,522 posts)
41. Right on my friend! We cannot ignore their meddling
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:12 PM
Jan 2024

Our entire system of communications has been hacked and compromised.
Why can't we address that head-on?

SCantiGOP

(14,715 posts)
49. I wish you had told me sooner
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:40 PM
Jan 2024

All that time I supported Bernie Sanders I never realized that I was a Russian agent.

(seriously, not picking a fight but your headline is a bit provocative.)

muriel_volestrangler

(106,157 posts)
35. Since Israel has been funding "grassroots" social media for at least a decade, they'd naturally assume their opponents
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:27 AM
Jan 2024

do too. And perhaps they're right. But just as many pro-Israel posters and demonstrators are unfunded by anyone, pro-Palestine posters and demonstrators can also be doing things entirely from their own opinions of right and wrong, and duty.

Pelosi doesn't mention having any evidence about the funding. It's just her feelings. But that's not really any better than RW people's feelings that George Soros was behind anything they disagreed with. It would be better if she stuck to actuality, rather than wanting the FBI to look for rationalizations about her personal take.

2013:

Students in Israel are to form government-funded "covert units" to defend the country on Facebook and Twitter, it's reported.

The Prime Minister's office is reportedly spending around £540,000 recruiting more than 500 students to respond to social media posts calling for boycotts and sanctions against the country, the Jerusalem Post says. Those with foreign language skills who receive these "scholarships" would not identify themselves as being in the pay of the government. Instead, Israel's Ha'aretz newspaper says, the plan is to make the programme appear to be based on the activity of politically-neutral students, with the Prime Minister's Office also hoping to recruit from pro-Israel student groups from around the world.

Israel certainly won't be the first country to pay internet users to defend its interests online. China' so-called 50 Cent Party comprises people who are paid by the Beijing government to help sway public opinion by posting pro-China messages on internet forums. They're named after the sum they're reportedly paid: 50 cents per post, the equivalent of 5p.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23695896

Seeking Serenity

(3,322 posts)
37. Yay! Because investigating war protesters is a core Democratic value!
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 11:51 AM
Jan 2024

Just like with the Vietnam War. Woo hoo!

Response to gab13by13 (Reply #39)

 

Basic LA

(2,047 posts)
45. We need congressional hearings.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 12:20 PM
Jan 2024

We could make them name names. And those who don't would be blacklisted. There's probably a tally somewhere of Russian dupes in government who want a ceasefire. Let's root them out one by one.
We could call it the House Un-Israeli Activities Committee. Maybe a certain Pennsylvania senator could preside. This ushers in a new political alignment. Forget Left or Right. It's now Pro Israel or Terrorist.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
55. I trust Nancy Pelosi waaaay more than I trust anyone calling Biden "Genocide Joe" ...
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 01:37 PM
Jan 2024

Likewise, I trust Nancy Pelosi more than I trust a bunch of jerks barging into a party for very elderly Civil Rights veterans and slugging a 90 year old woman in the face.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
60. Didn't you see, that didn't really happen!
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 02:17 PM
Jan 2024

Just like there weren't pro-Hamas demonstrators harassing Fetterman at his house.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
79. Maybe if she
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:37 PM
Jan 2024

told us what it is she knows, it would be easier to understand why asking for a ceasefire is "Putin's" idea.

 
72. The Right To Protest
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:01 PM
Jan 2024

Nancy Pelosi can ask the FBI to investigate where the money is coming from on protests for a cease fire. Most of these people who protest have good reason to protest. When you watch your television and see 26,000 people killed many who are children, a lot of Americans are going to be concerned. It was also bad that 1700 Jewish people were killed. We are long passed an eye for an eye. Protesting has been a part of our country since its beginning. I am not a Russian sympathizer if I was younger I would protest also. I have friends who are American citizens who were originally from Palestine. It must be hard to watch some of their relatives and their former lands destroyed. They are not Russian sympathizers Nancy. It doesn’t take much money to get out on the street and say I don’t like this. Instead of kissing Israel’s butt maybe Biden should try solving the problem

tazkcmo

(7,419 posts)
99. How do you know he's (Biden) not?
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 06:44 PM
Jan 2024

I'm betting he is be cause he has a solid track record of being a high quality human being and one hell of a politician.

 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
77. Why?
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 04:36 PM
Jan 2024

Putin has nothing to do with Israel/Gaza conflict. Thousands of innocent Palestinians have died and still the hostages are not free. Why not try a ceasefire? How can that be wrong. I just don't understand.

LeftInTX

(34,211 posts)
91. A shadowy political party is behind most of the protests. They have their own presidential candidate.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 06:10 PM
Jan 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation

Many of the Free Palestine and Ceasefire Now signs have PSL's logo on it.

They're even crying about Lenin's death 100 years ago.























 

claudette

(5,455 posts)
103. The goal
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 07:23 PM
Jan 2024

is to save innocent Palestinian lives and get the hostages back. Not supporting a ceasefire seems cruel to me no matter who protests

LeftInTX

(34,211 posts)
104. Nancy thinks they should investigate the funding behind these groups.
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 07:29 PM
Jan 2024

Any ceasefire would be unilateral and doesn't make sense. Can you get Hamas to agree to ceasefire?
To them, it's sacrilege. I saw a Frontline episode from 2002 and even back in 1995, Hamas started committing terrorist acts because they were going to get their own state, but it would require peace. They didn't like it and sent a bunch of suicide bombers into Israel. Thanks to Hamas, we got Bibi.

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
97. She thinks?
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 06:30 PM
Jan 2024

Any evidence? I'm quite sure if I were a youngster right now, I'd be marching for a cease-fire and for peace. And I'm damn sure not a Russian plant or provocateur.

Oh yeah, and I'm still waiting on my check from George Soros for my anti war activism on 2003.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
98. UPDATE: Pelosi condemned for suggesting pro-Palestinian activists have ties to Russia
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 06:42 PM
Jan 2024
The Guardian

Supporters of a ceasefire in Gaza condemned comments made by the former House speaker Nancy Pelosi as “downright authoritarian” after the California Democrat suggested, without offering evidence, that pro-Palestinian activists may have ties to Russia and president Vladimir Putin.

...snip...

The interview sparked a furious backlash among activists and anti-war protesters, who pointed to polling that shows strong shares of Democrats support calls for a ceasefire in Gaza and agree with the claim that Israel is committing a “genocide” against the Palestinian people.

Nihad Awad, national executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, called the remarks an “unsubstantiated smear” that “echo a time in our nation when opponents of the Vietnam war were accused of being communist sympathizers and subjected to FBI harassment”.

“Her comments once again show the negative impact of decades of dehumanization of the Palestinian people by those supporting Israeli apartheid,” Awad said in a statement. “Instead of baselessly smearing those Americans as Russian collaborators, former House Speaker Pelosi and other political leaders should respect the will of the American people by calling for an end to the Netanyahu government’s genocidal war on the people of Gaza.”


NickB79

(20,335 posts)
102. If Pelosi is calling for an FBI investigation, she's seen some damning stuff
Mon Jan 29, 2024, 07:21 PM
Jan 2024

This is Nancy Pelosi here. She's not some idiot off the street. She's spent decades dealing with shit like this, and doesn't say things like this unless she already has solid information to back it up.

People need to take her seriously when she speaks like this. You'd think being the backbone of the Democratic Party for all these years would have earned her a little more respect.

revmclaren

(2,613 posts)
127. Maybe because some supporters of various protest groups
Tue Jan 30, 2024, 02:22 AM
Jan 2024

have ulterior motives for the protests along with close ties to China and Russia.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218637980

This gives some reason and credence to her statement although I know many will still disagree and demand proof. This proof will come in time as it has with facts involving the war in Gaza.

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