Nancy Pelosi seeks FBI probe into protesters calling for a cease-fire in Gaza
Source: NBC News
By Summer Concepcion
Jan. 28, 2024, 11:39 AM PST
Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., on Sunday said she hopes to ask the FBI to investigate protesters calling for a cease-fire in the Israel-Hamas war and suggested that some of the antiwar demonstrations are linked to Russia. During an interview on CNNs State of the Union, the former House speaker shared her belief that some of the protesters are connected to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
For them to call for a cease-fire is Mr. Putins message, Mr. Putins message. Make no mistake. This is directly connected to what he would like to see. Same thing with Ukraine. Its about Putins message, Pelosi said.
I think some of these some of these protesters are spontaneous and organic and sincere. Some, I think, are connected to Russia, and I say that having looked at this for a long time now, she continued.
Pressed on whether she thinks some of the protesters are Russian plants, Pelosi said she would like to have the FBI look into the matter. I didnt say theyre plants. I think some financing should be investigated, she said. And I want to ask the FBI to investigate that.
Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/nancy-pelosi-seeks-fbi-probe-protesters-calling-cease-fire-gaza-rcna136068
lapucelle
(21,052 posts)How does
morph into
Via "I want to ask the FBI to investigate that". If the FBI investigates it, that's pretty much a probe. No?
lapucelle
(21,052 posts)as investigating the protesters.
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I think Speaker Emerita Pelosi may have been talking about this guy:
The Times unraveled a financial network that stretches from Chicago to Shanghai and uses American nonprofits to push Chinese talking points worldwide.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/05/world/europe/neville-roy-singham-china-propaganda.html
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A New Lines investigation reveals a network of charities funneling millions into left-wing platforms that take Beijings side on the genocide allegations and theyre all connected to an American tech magnate
https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-big-business-of-uyghur-genocide-denial/
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Influence Watch: Neville Roy Singham
The Peoples Forum, which reportedly has been primarily funded by Singham and Jodie Evans since 2017, has organized several pro-Palestinian demonstrations since the attack on Israel by Hamas on October 7, 2023, that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis and foreign civilians and led to Israel engaging in military operations against the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.
On the day of the attack, the Peoples Forum failed to condemn Hamas, instead choosing to call for an end to US aid to the Zionist occupation. The Peoples Forum organized a protest the next day on October 8, 2023, and via social media encouraged attendees to go all out for Palestine, and called for supporters to stand with the people of the Palestinian Territories who have the right to resist apartheid, occupation & oppression.
The Peoples Forum executive director Manolo De Los Sar called the November 2023 March for Israel demonstration in Washington, D.C. a Pro-Genocide March, and accused speakers at the demonstration of being racists and fake progressives.
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The Peoples Forum has appeared to admit that it was funded by Singham. The organization stated on X, formerly Twitter, that it was the target of a campaign that alleges our funding comes from dark money. The organization continued by stating Singham was a Marxist comrade who sold his company & donated most of his wealth to non-profits that focus on political education, culture & internationalism.
https://www.influencewatch.org/person/neville-roy-singham/
LonePirate
(14,366 posts)Bev54
(13,428 posts)It is like 2016 all over again and the public once again falls for it each and every time. People need to start questioning before blindly following.
SarahD
(1,732 posts)Most of those protesters have nothing to do with Russia. Let's not conduct wholesale roundups.
You know this, how?
SarahD
(1,732 posts)Many of those protesters are friends of mine.
revmclaren
(2,613 posts)who's funding these 'pop up' protests. If the government gets involved, everything will be laid bare and maybe it would be wise if they were sure who really financially backs them.
Could be very embarrassing.
Lonestarblue
(13,460 posts)We are a nation where public protests are common. No one pays for most of them.
bottomofthehill
(9,381 posts)And create a false narrative.
LeftInTX
(34,211 posts)Many of the Free Palestine and Ceasefire Now signs have PSL's logo on it.
They're even crying about Lenin's death 100 years ago.
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Igel
(37,516 posts)Demonstrations, if you prefer that term.
The protestors weren't paid. But I was in stu-gov and had a bird's eye view as a paid organizer came to campus, organized (d'uh),, helped plan protests, funded ideas for when/where to protest, purchases of supplies for protests, and even slogans for the signs. And materials for riling up the indifferent to participate--like all disinformation, it had truth as a hook for snagging people and not quite truth for infuriating them and making them demonstrate "against their interests".
The organizer wasn't just for our campus. He went from campus to campus in the state system doing the same. My income that year was under $15k (it was the mid-late '90s, and if you lived very frugally it wasn't poverty, not quite; his salary as a "change agent" was over 6x that ... Note that public transport was spendy for me and if it wasn't raining, it was bicycle, and burger or chix was 1-2x/week at best ... Never ask me to eat a meal of only pinto beans/Jarlsberg again ... 5-6 days a week for years ... Just no. I mean, turkey for $0.19/lb the day after T-day meant cheese/beans for 5-6 days a week and turkey for months ... and months ....)
Now, this was one campaign. But it's easy to inflame people, piss them off, get them outraged--just look at US popular media and what gets them viewers to make them $.
The organizer did his job. But the press said this was "grassroots."
Only later did I learn the term "astroturf." It wasn't a grassroots movement, it was astroturfed. Were the protestors paid? No. A small ideological minority were waiting for organization--and promptly organized the marginal. All the rest--paid for by an organization HQed far, far out of state.
Hope22
(4,723 posts)I question the integrity of anyone who has never been outraged enough to protest! That should be investigated! Half of the House voted to steal an election and no one called for one investigation! Over half of the House worked for a man with close ties to Putin and none of them were called to be investigated but somehow people standing up exercising their former right to protest are called from the floor to be investigated. I dont care what they were protesting Pelosi is off base here. I really am fed up with the hate this issue has generated here. Can you imagine people who are against war simply for the waste of death and destruction? Its a thing and in this day and age we are forced to sit and watch without speaking out here because somehow, as usual, being against war is the crime. Enough if this ! All war without prior peace talks is vile. It is murder dressed up in a fancy uniform.
Lulu KC
(8,891 posts)She is asking that funding origins be investigated to see if the $ is coming from Russia. Bad headline.
Hope22
(4,723 posts)Lets read the Mueller Repost without the redaction, lets look into the members of the House who refused to count the votes. Its pretty clear Russian money is involved there but not a peep. Lets start at the top!
Cha
(318,866 posts)Nancy Wants an Investigation for how these GD Fuking HAMAS fans, who are Harassing Jewish People and Business, Are Funded..
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Lunabell
(7,309 posts)I am against war. Period. Normal people seek a resolution to violence, not perpetuate it. Vengeance just brings on more vengeance. A common ground must be reached so all can live in peace. War only benefits those who make the bombs and guns.
Cha
(318,866 posts)Yoyoyo77
(320 posts)from both the right and left. In some cases they provoked what they hoped were angry confrontations by having fake groups call for outraged protests against each other. What is the definition of agent provocateur?
Hope22
(4,723 posts)Remember the big fat check you got in the mail? We need to refrain from threatening protesters. You never know when you will be out there. Signed .still broke after years of protesting! PS, if youve never protested I cant think of a better time to start!
Hekate
(100,133 posts)When I protested against BushCheneys war, ditto. I was in many protests then, including in DC, ditto. No violence, not so much as a newspaper rack overturned.
How about you?
When planning group actions, it is a very good idea to know the character of those in your group. You get somebody in there agitating for violence and destruction, kick them out on their asses. That person is the one being paid by someone. Wouldnt you want to know who?
Hope22
(4,723 posts)the provocateurs were causing the initial damage and violence. I do not consider them protesters. If you ask an uneducated American they will tell you it was the BLM causing the issues. In this situation I can not tell you who is violent but lumping all protesters as a problem is the big problem. People who advocate for peace deserve better than we give them.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Back when I first joined DU in 2002, I remember some of us educating the younger less experienced about COINTELPRO.
This thread is exhausting. My gods. The whole point of some of the groups named here is to overthrow the US government.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)It is good to see your friendly face.
yardwork
(69,333 posts)lapfog_1
(31,893 posts)Russia is definitely behind the "no more funding to Ukraine" from the GQP.
Russia might be behind the funding of the more radical protests here. Russia has a long history of working with "useful idiots".
Never forget that Putin is old school KGB.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Hope22
(4,723 posts)Is likely stemming from information our exPresident sold them. It comes full circle unless we hold the Trump family accountable. If we refuse to act its on all of us!
Hekate
(100,133 posts)So, not everything comes from Trumps treason.
Keep in mind that Russia (under whatever name) has never been a friend to democracy or the US.
Hope22
(4,723 posts)But Trump has been involved with Russia Wayyyyyy before he went into politics. They own him. I think you might be underestimating his depth of treasonous activity but I can wait.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Thank you all the same
We need an emoji for smh.
Cha
(318,866 posts)Cha
(318,866 posts)doesn't seem like anyone would want to call them "friends".
This is Not grassroots.. they're being Funded and Nancy Pelois is absolutely right to ask it to be investigated.
One tell, they are targeting a lot of Democrats and not one Republican.
Cha
(318,866 posts)Genocide Joe .
Who does that benefit?👿
sheshe2
(97,484 posts).........
Oh! Republicans!
Cha
(318,866 posts)Bev54
(13,428 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)Bev54
(13,428 posts)The protesters may not know this but the organizers sure as hell do. The protesters are being used once again by Putin, just like they organized in 2016. I am afraid some people will never learn to investigate who is organizing and who is funding before they jump in.
claudette
(5,455 posts)that most protesrors wanting a ceasefire are just regular ordinary people who want the murder to stop and don't support Putin'
Bev54
(13,428 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)the FBI going to do? She wants to stop all protests? Ordinary concerned people shouldnt be lumped in with Putin. I dont understand.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)She has spent her entire life safeguarding our freedoms and working to better our lives.
Personally, I am not standing for this pile-on.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)The question of who funds the organizers of crowds assembled to deride Jews and Democratic office-holders, with slogans derived from propaganda shops abroad, is a legitimate object for investigation.
It is not 'stopping all protests' or 'lumping ordinary concerned people in with Putin'.
Cha
(318,866 posts)the Protesters Are Cheering on HAMAs in the Streets.
And harassing Jewish People and Businesses at times Violently. The People have nothing to do with them.. other than being Jewish.
Nancy wants an Investigation into who is funding these HAMAS Asshole fans.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)bottomofthehill
(9,381 posts)I didnt say theyre plants. I think some financing should be investigated, she said. And I want to ask the FBI to investigate that.
SunImp
(2,701 posts)SarahD
(1,732 posts)Our posts don't determine reckless pursuit vs. restrained inquiry. Anyway, I'm sure the FBI is already looking into the lives of protesters they consider likely candidates for Russian connections.
Cha
(318,866 posts)streets cheering for HAMAS.
This is Not grassroots.. something is Funding these Assholes.
Nancy Pelosi is right on Target.
Cha
(318,866 posts)are your words.
yardwork
(69,333 posts)DemocraticPatriot
(5,410 posts)Hope22
(4,723 posts)I have zero patience for people who have never cared enough to protest and call for investigation of protesters. I feel like a fool! Five years of biweekly protests for *s illegal war in Iraq and not one dollar of funding! Infiltrators, yes. Our own secret service detail once, yes. And yes over 500,000 went to DC to try to stop the surge! We were accused of being paid to be there! We wanted our troops home and even the troops disliked us! Some people just arent wired for war. Lock them up! Pure bull$#&t.
womanofthehills
(10,988 posts)Nancy - If our Capital crumbles to the ground
Basic LA
(2,047 posts)That our silly country matters far less than a certain supreme foreign country? That we are insignificant in comparison?
Hekate
(100,133 posts)There really is something missing here.
PufPuf23
(9,826 posts)Look at the backdrop behind Pelosi and others,
2018 IAC is repeated in multiple colors.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)Cha
(318,866 posts)womanofthehills
(10,988 posts)Pelosi to protesters outside her house: "Go back to China where your headquarters is!"
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lapucelle
(21,052 posts)Singham is headquartered in China.
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The Times unraveled a financial network that stretches from Chicago to Shanghai and uses American nonprofits to push Chinese talking points worldwide.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/05/world/europe/neville-roy-singham-china-propaganda.html
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A New Lines investigation reveals a network of charities funneling millions into left-wing platforms that take Beijings side on the genocide allegations and theyre all connected to an American tech magnate
https://newlinesmag.com/reportage/the-big-business-of-uyghur-genocide-denial/
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Influence Watch: Neville Roy Singham
The Peoples Forum, which reportedly has been primarily funded by Singham and Jodie Evans since 2017, has organized several pro-Palestinian demonstrations since the attack on Israel by Hamas on October 7, 2023, that killed roughly 1,200 Israelis and foreign civilians and led to Israel engaging in military operations against the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.
On the day of the attack, the Peoples Forum failed to condemn Hamas, instead choosing to call for an end to US aid to the Zionist occupation. The Peoples Forum organized a protest the next day on October 8, 2023, and via social media encouraged attendees to go all out for Palestine, and called for supporters to stand with the people of the Palestinian Territories who have the right to resist apartheid, occupation & oppression.
The Peoples Forum executive director Manolo De Los Sar called the November 2023 March for Israel demonstration in Washington, D.C. a Pro-Genocide March, and accused speakers at the demonstration of being racists and fake progressives.
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The Peoples Forum has appeared to admit that it was funded by Singham. The organization stated on X, formerly Twitter, that it was the target of a campaign that alleges our funding comes from dark money. The organization continued by stating Singham was a Marxist comrade who sold his company & donated most of his wealth to non-profits that focus on political education, culture & internationalism.
https://www.influencewatch.org/person/neville-roy-singham/
lapucelle
(21,052 posts)The Peoples Forum is a socialist organization that acts as project incubator. From its location in New York City, the Forum hosts events, readings, operates a cafe and a library, and publishes various cultural works and media. It has collaborated with a number of radical-left and Marxist philosophers and activists.
Despite being a socialist organization that prides itself on its supposed working class, anti-capitalist orientations, The Peoples Forum has been the recipient of over $18 million through donor-advised fund provider Goldman Sachs Philanthropy Fund.
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In 2019, The Peoples Forum received $12 million through the Goldman Sachs Philanthropy Fund, a donor-advised fund provider. This was not the first time the Forum received a hefty sum in this manner: it was given $4,400,000 in 2018 and $2,500,000 in 2017 through the Philanthropy Fund.
https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/the-peoples-forum/
lapucelle
(21,052 posts)Code Pink has been active in the anti-Israel protests targeting Democrats with accusations of genocide.
lapucelle
(21,052 posts)and attended their 2017 wedding.
LeftInTX
(34,211 posts)Why aren't they at Trump rallies????
Why aren't that at the border harassing Greg Abbott?
Kennah
(14,578 posts)LeftInTX
(34,211 posts)Tony wouldn't have them shot.
Kennah
(14,578 posts)I suppose they know the GOOP won't care, but thinking that Biden is the enemy and Trump is a better choice on this issue defies logic and reason.
sheshe2
(97,484 posts)They only target Democrats.
Seeking Serenity
(3,322 posts)You protest against those in power, not those who aren't in power (at least on such things as war and killing)
LeftInTX
(34,211 posts)Why aren't they targeting Cruz and Cornyn? They have veto power.
Seeking Serenity
(3,322 posts)Neither are the Rs in the House.
It makes sense that the anti-war protesters would target the man who actually has authority to change things.
LeftInTX
(34,211 posts)Why are they targeting Joaquin Castro?
Why are they targeting our local City Council?
Why are they targeting our Jewish mayor?
Seeking Serenity
(3,322 posts)Protesters want to try to influence people who may have the ear of the president.
(As for your city council and mayor, I can't say. That seems rather silly and counterproductive)
LeftInTX
(34,211 posts)The Party for Socialism and Liberation (PSL) is a communist party in the United States. PSL was established in 2004, when its members split from the Workers World Party. The group believes that a socialist revolution is necessary to overthrow capitalism and establish socialism.[2] The organization works toward this end by organizing and participating in local protests, running candidates in elections, and political education favoring a revolutionary socialist vanguard party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Party_for_Socialism_and_Liberation
And yes, Party of Socialism and Liberation has their own candidate for president.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.N.S.W.E.R.
Anti-Israeli groups have been around for a long time. When this happened they were ready to pounce. Who is funding them?
They don't seem all that grass-roots me.
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Seeking Serenity
(3,322 posts)Were quite supportive of ANSWER (when it was Bush 43 they were protesting). I dont recall anyone asking questions about who was funding them then.
LeftInTX
(34,211 posts)They are against the Democratic Party as much as Republicans are.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Cha
(318,866 posts)Streets Harassing Jewish People. and Businesses.
The Magistrate
(96,043 posts)Among other problems, when people came out for protest of the war, it packed the platform with every conceivable radical hobby-horse instead of concentrating on what people turned out for. Sort of an 'open mike' show for cranks of left persuasion. Not a serious effort....
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Hekate
(100,133 posts)And somehow the Democrats are at fault?
Polybius
(21,877 posts)They likely think that Democrats should know better.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)
..in the face, they can flat out go to hell.
There is no excuse for that. Ever.
RandomNumbers
(19,151 posts)and turns over the CRIMINAL RAPISTS AND MURDERERS for trial.
Oh wait, ** I ** "know better". Hamas will continue to rape and murder, and never release the hostages (and of course it is too late for the several who are already dead). Where are the protests against that?
Recall that the current escalation was CAUSED BY HAMAS RAPING AND MUDERING civilians.
An honest person looking for something to protest might start with the actual cause of the bloodshed.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)orangecrush
(30,169 posts)I hope it happens.
And I don't believe age would do that without having seen proof.
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SunSeeker
(58,250 posts)And what is wrong with investigating who is funding these protests? That is all Pelosi asked for, if you read the actual article as opposed to the sensationalized and incorrect headline.
The Wizard
(13,721 posts)summer_in_TX
(4,159 posts)that Russia (and other unfriendly actors) have been running campaigns to exacerbate divisions in our society. They target both sides of the political divide, trying to exploit tensions and anger. I believe there's good reason to suspect that money from Russia is being directed beyond just their troll farms to social media influencers.
Of COURSE a lot of the protest is genuine and heartfelt, by good people. That doesn't erase the fact that Russia can and almost certainly does use the strong feelings of people to covertly add fuel to a fire.
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The former House speaker suggested without offering evidence that some protesters calling for a cease-fire in Gaza had financial ties to Russia and Vladimir V. Putin.

Representative Nancy Pelosi in May 2023. On Sunday, she suggested that some pro-Palestinian protesters had ties to Russia. Kenny Holston/The New York Times
By Kayla Guo
Reporting from Washington
Jan. 28, 2024
Representative Nancy Pelosi, Democrat of California and the former House speaker, on Sunday called for the F.B.I. to investigate protesters demanding a cease-fire in the Israel-Hamas conflict, suggesting without evidence that some activists may have ties to Russia and President Vladimir V. Putin.
For them to call for a cease-fire is Mr. Putins message, Ms. Pelosi said during an interview on CNNs State of the Union. Make no mistake, this is directly connected to what he would like to see. Same thing with Ukraine. Its about Putins message. I think some of these protesters are spontaneous and organic and sincere. Some, I think, are connected to Russia.
When pressed on whether she believed some of the demonstrators were Russian plants, Ms. Pelosi said: Seeds or plants. I think some financing should be investigated. And I want to ask the F.B.I. to investigate that.
Ms. Pelosi, who was first elected speaker in 2007 and again in 2019, led House Democrats for 20 years before stepping aside for Representative Hakeem Jeffries of New York, the minority leader. Still, she remains influential among congressional Democrats. Her remarks appear to be the first time a prominent U.S. politician has publicly suggested Russia may be backing cease-fire protests to help foment division among Democrats. The Council on American-Islamic Relations condemned Ms. Pelosis comments as an unsubstantiated smear and downright authoritarian.
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Goddessartist
(2,176 posts)for this. It's totally ridiculous, and of course the anti Palestinian crowd is thrilled.
For far too long, the Palestinians have been vilified, and now protesting for their existence, protesting against genocide, is being condemned.
LeftInTX
(34,211 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)and pro-ceasefire. That certainly IS possible without being on the side of Putin.
Lulu KC
(8,891 posts)DBoon
(24,967 posts)I thought he was paying for these protests
Irish_Dem
(81,135 posts)Hope22
(4,723 posts)Littered across the globe. Get everyone to hate each other just a little bit more and collect the money. Seems right! He needs to be tried for all of it!
Irish_Dem
(81,135 posts)There is no way HAMAS could have conducted such a top notch, top secret terrorist attack.
I also suspect Trump helped this attack happen with the classified intel he sold to other countries.
gab13by13
(32,219 posts)We ignore Russias meddling at our own peril.
I guarantee that Nancy Pelosi has inside information.
Federalist Society member Chris Wray will get right on it.
It is possible that the swatting phone calls come from Russia.
Putin dearly wants Trump to become president.
FakeNoose
(41,522 posts)Our entire system of communications has been hacked and compromised.
Why can't we address that head-on?
SCantiGOP
(14,715 posts)All that time I supported Bernie Sanders I never realized that I was a Russian agent.
(seriously, not picking a fight but your headline is a bit provocative.)
muriel_volestrangler
(106,157 posts)do too. And perhaps they're right. But just as many pro-Israel posters and demonstrators are unfunded by anyone, pro-Palestine posters and demonstrators can also be doing things entirely from their own opinions of right and wrong, and duty.
Pelosi doesn't mention having any evidence about the funding. It's just her feelings. But that's not really any better than RW people's feelings that George Soros was behind anything they disagreed with. It would be better if she stuck to actuality, rather than wanting the FBI to look for rationalizations about her personal take.
2013:
The Prime Minister's office is reportedly spending around £540,000 recruiting more than 500 students to respond to social media posts calling for boycotts and sanctions against the country, the Jerusalem Post says. Those with foreign language skills who receive these "scholarships" would not identify themselves as being in the pay of the government. Instead, Israel's Ha'aretz newspaper says, the plan is to make the programme appear to be based on the activity of politically-neutral students, with the Prime Minister's Office also hoping to recruit from pro-Israel student groups from around the world.
Israel certainly won't be the first country to pay internet users to defend its interests online. China' so-called 50 Cent Party comprises people who are paid by the Beijing government to help sway public opinion by posting pro-China messages on internet forums. They're named after the sum they're reportedly paid: 50 cents per post, the equivalent of 5p.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23695896
Seeking Serenity
(3,322 posts)Just like with the Vietnam War. Woo hoo!
gab13by13
(32,219 posts)You are mischaracterizing her.
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Hekate
(100,133 posts)Basic LA
(2,047 posts)We could make them name names. And those who don't would be blacklisted. There's probably a tally somewhere of Russian dupes in government who want a ceasefire. Let's root them out one by one.
We could call it the House Un-Israeli Activities Committee. Maybe a certain Pennsylvania senator could preside. This ushers in a new political alignment. Forget Left or Right. It's now Pro Israel or Terrorist.
Seeking Serenity
(3,322 posts)Marcus IM
(3,001 posts)I'm sure that would go over well.
Hekate
(100,133 posts)Likewise, I trust Nancy Pelosi more than I trust a bunch of jerks barging into a party for very elderly Civil Rights veterans and slugging a 90 year old woman in the face.
AZSkiffyGeek
(12,744 posts)Just like there weren't pro-Hamas demonstrators harassing Fetterman at his house.
Emile
(42,191 posts)claudette
(5,455 posts)told us what it is she knows, it would be easier to understand why asking for a ceasefire is "Putin's" idea.
independent think
(22 posts)Nancy Pelosi can ask the FBI to investigate where the money is coming from on protests for a cease fire. Most of these people who protest have good reason to protest. When you watch your television and see 26,000 people killed many who are children, a lot of Americans are going to be concerned. It was also bad that 1700 Jewish people were killed. We are long passed an eye for an eye. Protesting has been a part of our country since its beginning. I am not a Russian sympathizer if I was younger I would protest also. I have friends who are American citizens who were originally from Palestine. It must be hard to watch some of their relatives and their former lands destroyed. They are not Russian sympathizers Nancy. It doesnt take much money to get out on the street and say I dont like this. Instead of kissing Israels butt maybe Biden should try solving the problem
tazkcmo
(7,419 posts)I'm betting he is be cause he has a solid track record of being a high quality human being and one hell of a politician.
claudette
(5,455 posts)Putin has nothing to do with Israel/Gaza conflict. Thousands of innocent Palestinians have died and still the hostages are not free. Why not try a ceasefire? How can that be wrong. I just don't understand.
LeftInTX
(34,211 posts)Many of the Free Palestine and Ceasefire Now signs have PSL's logo on it.
They're even crying about Lenin's death 100 years ago.
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claudette
(5,455 posts)is to save innocent Palestinian lives and get the hostages back. Not supporting a ceasefire seems cruel to me no matter who protests
LeftInTX
(34,211 posts)Any ceasefire would be unilateral and doesn't make sense. Can you get Hamas to agree to ceasefire?
To them, it's sacrilege. I saw a Frontline episode from 2002 and even back in 1995, Hamas started committing terrorist acts because they were going to get their own state, but it would require peace. They didn't like it and sent a bunch of suicide bombers into Israel. Thanks to Hamas, we got Bibi.
Cha
(318,866 posts)Lunabell
(7,309 posts)Any evidence? I'm quite sure if I were a youngster right now, I'd be marching for a cease-fire and for peace. And I'm damn sure not a Russian plant or provocateur.
Oh yeah, and I'm still waiting on my check from George Soros for my anti war activism on 2003.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...snip...
The interview sparked a furious backlash among activists and anti-war protesters, who pointed to polling that shows strong shares of Democrats support calls for a ceasefire in Gaza and agree with the claim that Israel is committing a genocide against the Palestinian people.
Nihad Awad, national executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, called the remarks an unsubstantiated smear that echo a time in our nation when opponents of the Vietnam war were accused of being communist sympathizers and subjected to FBI harassment.
Her comments once again show the negative impact of decades of dehumanization of the Palestinian people by those supporting Israeli apartheid, Awad said in a statement. Instead of baselessly smearing those Americans as Russian collaborators, former House Speaker Pelosi and other political leaders should respect the will of the American people by calling for an end to the Netanyahu governments genocidal war on the people of Gaza.
NickB79
(20,335 posts)This is Nancy Pelosi here. She's not some idiot off the street. She's spent decades dealing with shit like this, and doesn't say things like this unless she already has solid information to back it up.
People need to take her seriously when she speaks like this. You'd think being the backbone of the Democratic Party for all these years would have earned her a little more respect.
betsuni
(29,049 posts)revmclaren
(2,613 posts)have ulterior motives for the protests along with close ties to China and Russia.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218637980
This gives some reason and credence to her statement although I know many will still disagree and demand proof. This proof will come in time as it has with facts involving the war in Gaza.