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mysteryowl

(7,223 posts)
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 03:03 PM Feb 10

Georgia police and FBI conduct Swat-style raids on 'Cop City' activists' homes

Source: The Guardian/US

Police in Georgia, together with federal agencies, are conducting a crackdown on activists involved in a continuing campaign against a controversial police and fire department training center known as “Cop City” that has included acts of arson and sabotage against equipment being used on the project.

This week alone saw Atlanta-area raids by law enforcement that took a woman out of her house with no shirt, left a naked photo of another woman on display after ransacking a room and dragged a man by his hair – while arresting none of them.

The pre-dawn raids on three houses on Thursday were the third Swat-style operation in residential areas of Atlanta and nearby unincorporated DeKalb county tied to a movement that began in 2021 – and the first in which the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) played a prominent role.

The fight against Cop City has attracted national and global headlines, especially after police shot and killed one environmental protester at a campsite in a public park – the first such incident of its kind in US history.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/feb/10/georgia-police-fbi-raids-cop-city-activists-atlanta

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Georgia police and FBI conduct Swat-style raids on 'Cop City' activists' homes (Original Post) mysteryowl Feb 10 OP
Terrorism. SarahD Feb 10 #1
How do we citizens call for help to have the abusive police arrested? mysteryowl Feb 10 #2
If the FBI is involved atreides1 Feb 10 #5
The fbi is mostly white males..........nt wolfie001 Feb 11 #15
Thugs Hekate Feb 10 #3
I see a big, fat lawsuit regarding human rights. 2naSalit Feb 10 #4
Except I expect the courts will be on the cops side slightlv Feb 10 #7
Every word truth!!!............nt wolfie001 Feb 11 #14
Most of them are cowards. Elessar Zappa Feb 11 #24
Yep DemMedic Feb 13 #53
Wow. Way to prove the activists have a point. *slow clap* crickets Feb 10 #6
The Gestapo lives! Chainfire Feb 10 #8
Yep! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Feb 11 #19
Of course the pigs raided activists homes ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 10 #9
Call the cops.. oh wait. mountain grammy Feb 10 #10
Has this even been in the US press? All I see/hear is about trump and hur. PSPS Feb 10 #11
Hard right turn in progress. Except if you're white and rich. Evolve Dammit Feb 10 #12
Exactly! OldBaldy1701E Feb 11 #20
Being a policeman is one of the very few ways..... wolfie001 Feb 11 #13
O.K., I get it but: why are they protesting a "training center"? Maybe save their powder for more serious issues? machoneman Feb 11 #16
Training for what? Urban warfare? Plus forest destruction. cbabe Feb 11 #18
Firefighters and police do require training EX500rider Feb 11 #21
This is NOT about training law enforcement Farmer-Rick Feb 11 #22
Thanks for this background info. cbabe Feb 11 #23
Are the firefighters they will train also corporate henchman? EX500rider Feb 11 #25
Sure Farmer-Rick Feb 12 #28
I don't think you are correct EX500rider Feb 12 #29
If these are "public servants", what do public enemies look like? ck4829 Feb 12 #30
Sure they will be training Farmer-Rick Feb 12 #31
The executive of the well funded police foundation is neither a teacher or trainer. EX500rider Feb 12 #36
Of course corporate boards only have Farmer-Rick Feb 12 #37
Who exactly said it was for "paramilitary" training beside you? EX500rider Feb 12 #38
Yeah, we can trust corporations Farmer-Rick Feb 13 #48
Because the LAPD and NYPD already have a rep. limbicnuminousity Feb 13 #49
Exactly Farmer-Rick Feb 13 #52
Because it's reminiscent of the School of the Americas. limbicnuminousity Feb 13 #50
Yes, Farmer-Rick Feb 14 #54
Previous post cbabe Feb 11 #17
DISGUSTING!!! 😡🤬 nt Raine Feb 11 #26
Democrats in Fulton and Dekalb counties are behind the police/fire/emergency training center. Silent Type Feb 11 #27
You trust these corporations Farmer-Rick Feb 12 #32
I trust the Democratic leaders of Fulton and Dekalb. I don't think the facility is run by corporations. Silent Type Feb 12 #33
Here is wiki Farmer-Rick Feb 12 #34
I trust the Democratic Mayors and Commissioners who are behind the training facility. Silent Type Feb 12 #35
What exactly have our Democratic leaders Farmer-Rick Feb 12 #39
Here's Atlanta Mayor Dickens' comments a few days ago: Silent Type Feb 12 #40
Apparently to some "activists" & "arsonists" are the same thing EX500rider Feb 12 #41
Appears so. Silent Type Feb 12 #42
Do you have the right video? Farmer-Rick Feb 12 #43
Sorry, Rick, it's at 1:38. Maybe you should have rewound a bit, everyone else seemed to find it. Silent Type Feb 12 #44
Who else even looked at your video? Farmer-Rick Feb 12 #45
Cause they know it's true. Do you think Dicken's is wrong? Silent Type Feb 12 #46
I can see why they'd want to pivot the discussion from this to anything else. Torchlight Feb 12 #47
Why would the FBI allow itself to be drawn into this possible windfall for Cop City. Really stupid cop move. marble falls Feb 13 #51

slightlv

(2,575 posts)
7. Except I expect the courts will be on the cops side
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 05:08 PM
Feb 10

these days. Face it, it's a Republican world out there right now. Trump ain't President at the moment, but he might as well be. There are enough people who think he's still President, and they act as though he is. The only thing he doesn't have is the power of the office, which we have to make sure he never has again. Until that point, his troops are going to do everything he wants... whether he tells them directly or not. And that includes the cops. This is not going to be a good country to live in for a long few months. I worry what will happen after the election, when Trump loses... again. I don't feel like law enforcement is up to the task to take these yahoos out, and many of us will die at their hands. A hundred.. a thousand.. Timothy McVeighs. Damn Trump and the escalator he rode down on. As a country, we had a lot of karma to atone for. But damn, this takes the cake!

Elessar Zappa

(13,455 posts)
24. Most of them are cowards.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 07:41 PM
Feb 11

And there’s plenty in law enforcement who would gladly put down any riots by the Trumpers. I’m not afraid of them one bit.

DemMedic

(74 posts)
53. Yep
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 10:17 AM
Feb 13

I'm a 911 Paramedic and was a medic on a SWAT team years back.

A lot of these guys are just posturing and acting tough.

I got away from SWAT because those are the guys that will kill, or get someone killed.

wolfie001

(1,995 posts)
13. Being a policeman is one of the very few ways.....
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 09:52 AM
Feb 11

.....a white dood with mediocre ability and zero interpersonal skills can earn $85-$120,000 per year plus full benefits, including their ridiculous pensions. Many of them only working 20 years. This is a corporate scam to oppress Unions and people who have progressive ideas. It's an evil structure that is not doing our society any good. I don't see it changing anytime soon especially with those idiots that want to push for the Green party. So naive and self-defeating.

machoneman

(3,905 posts)
16. O.K., I get it but: why are they protesting a "training center"? Maybe save their powder for more serious issues?
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 10:44 AM
Feb 11

cbabe

(3,311 posts)
18. Training for what? Urban warfare? Plus forest destruction.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 11:38 AM
Feb 11

Calling out national guard to protect construction site?

Atlanta refuses to recognize/accept activists’ petitions.

This is deadly serious in many ways.

A place to start:

https://newsone.com › 4986564 › cop-city-everthing-we-know
Copy City: Everything We Know About The ATL Training Center - NewsOne

6 days agoThe Atlanta Public Safety Training Center, also known as Cop City, is an 85-acre police and firefighter training

Farmer-Rick

(9,924 posts)
22. This is NOT about training law enforcement
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 03:52 PM
Feb 11

The Atlanta Police Foundation – a private, non-profit organization – is behind the training center, using taxpayer and corporate funds.

The Atlanta Police Foundation was founded in 2003 to fund police activity that is not funded by government.

Unlike police forces, which are accountable to the public, Atlanta Police Foundation is accountable solely to its own board of directors. In January 2023, directors included leaders of American companies Delta Air Lines, Waffle House, The Home Depot, Georgia-Pacific, Equifax, real estate company Carter, Accenture, Wells Fargo and United Parcel Service. Rob Baskin is the vice president and director of public affairs. United States Secret Service veteran Dave Wilkinson is the chief executive officer and president.

This is a paramilitary group training camp for corporate henchmen. It's corporations creating their own military forces.

Farmer-Rick

(9,924 posts)
28. Sure
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 01:16 AM
Feb 12

In the Navy there is the enlisted Fire controlman (abbreviated as FC) occupational rating. Often confused with being fireman on board a ship, FC's actually operate advanced weapons systems, whereas Damage Controlman (DC) are actually the shipboard firefighters.

They may be referring to weapons system control. Or fire damage control. Either one are important functions in a military group.

Did you think it was training in fire prevention like your local volunteer fire department?

Henchmen was hyperbolic but it is an unaccountable private police/military force that is causing a serious violent response from police and FBI.

EX500rider

(10,334 posts)
29. I don't think you are correct
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 08:38 AM
Feb 12

They aren't going to be training any private forces there, they'll be using private trainers to train public servants which isn't all that uncommon.

ck4829

(34,838 posts)
30. If these are "public servants", what do public enemies look like?
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 08:57 AM
Feb 12

"This week alone saw Atlanta-area raids by law enforcement that took a woman out of her house with no shirt, left a naked photo of another woman on display after ransacking a room and dragged a man by his hair – while arresting none of them. "

EX500rider

(10,334 posts)
36. The executive of the well funded police foundation is neither a teacher or trainer.
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 01:41 PM
Feb 12

And again, they will be training regular police, SWAT & fire fighters there. All work for the city of Atlanta.

Farmer-Rick

(9,924 posts)
37. Of course corporate boards only have
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 02:00 PM
Feb 12

America's best interest in mind, especially when they pay their front men over $450,000 a year.

Why did they pick Atlanta to set up their paramilitary "training" program, I wonder?

EX500rider

(10,334 posts)
38. Who exactly said it was for "paramilitary" training beside you?
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 02:03 PM
Feb 12
The $90 million[2] construction of the Atlanta Public Safety Training Center began in spring 2023 on an 85-acre plot of land in the South River Forest, DeKalb County, Georgia.[3][4] The land is owned by the City of Atlanta.[4]

Once complete, the center is planned to be used as a training campus for police and fire services and is expected to open at the end of 2023.[5] Planned facilities include classrooms, a burn building, a mock city (including apartments, a bar/nightclub, and a school), and a shooting range.[5][6] 265 surrounding acres of the site are planned to be used as green-space


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cop_City

limbicnuminousity

(985 posts)
49. Because the LAPD and NYPD already have a rep.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 10:01 AM
Feb 13

They can practice urban pacification more easily in the south without ruffling feathers until the technique is mastered.

Farmer-Rick

(9,924 posts)
52. Exactly
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 10:17 AM
Feb 13

A giant cop center funded by huge corporations and run by a board of corporate representatives who get paid half a million.......not elected......not hired by the government, is not a good thing.

limbicnuminousity

(985 posts)
50. Because it's reminiscent of the School of the Americas.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 10:06 AM
Feb 13

White supremacist/MAGA infiltration of law enforcement and mounting state-sanctioned authoritarianism is serious.

Silent Type

(2,335 posts)
27. Democrats in Fulton and Dekalb counties are behind the police/fire/emergency training center.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 08:27 PM
Feb 11

I trust these Democrats on this, especially Dickens and Thurmond.

Gawd knows, these departments need training (not militarization type training, though).

Hopefully, they’ll be heavily trained to handle white wing terrorists, diffusing situations, etc.

Farmer-Rick

(9,924 posts)
32. You trust these corporations
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 09:21 AM
Feb 12

To train them into peaceful public police?

These organizations have been around for years, though Not usually building cop centers. These corporate foundations usually pay cops bonuses and extra wages and also provide training.

How peaceful have the cops been in the last 16 years? The death of innocent people of color in police custody has increased, not decreased.

Corporations can not be trusted to support domestic tranquility.

Farmer-Rick

(9,924 posts)
34. Here is wiki
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 10:43 AM
Feb 12

If wiki knows it's a corporate board then it's probably common knowledge.

"Unlike police forces, which are accountable to the public, Atlanta Police Foundation is accountable solely to its own board of directors. In January 2023, directors included leaders of American companies Delta Air Lines, Waffle House, The Home Depot, Georgia-Pacific, Equifax, real estate company Carter, Accenture, Wells Fargo and United Parcel Service. Rob Baskin is the vice president and director of public affairs. United States Secret Service veteran Dave Wilkinson is the chief executive officer and president."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Police_Foundation

But that's fine, you don't need to think it is run by corporations. The owners of those corporations don't want you to know anyway.

Farmer-Rick

(9,924 posts)
39. What exactly have our Democratic leaders
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 02:12 PM
Feb 12

Said about cop city and the recent police attacks on activists? These activists are normally Democratic voters.

Farmer-Rick

(9,924 posts)
45. Who else even looked at your video?
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 05:23 PM
Feb 12

Gee not silent you really are wanting to get into an insult contest. I think I will decline.

Torchlight

(3,114 posts)
47. I can see why they'd want to pivot the discussion from this to anything else.
Mon Feb 12, 2024, 07:18 PM
Feb 12

Tough to look at these swats alone, in and of themselves, and find anything at all of merit in their actions, or even defensible. Only with irrelevancies added for better dilution can it become conversational; from their perspective, that is.

marble falls

(55,349 posts)
51. Why would the FBI allow itself to be drawn into this possible windfall for Cop City. Really stupid cop move.
Tue Feb 13, 2024, 10:09 AM
Feb 13
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