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Polybius

(16,540 posts)
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 04:28 PM Feb 2024

White House frustration with Garland grows

Source: Politico

Joe Biden has told aides and outside advisers that Attorney General Merrick Garland did not do enough to rein in a special counsel report stating that the president had diminished mental faculties, according to two people close to the president, as White House frustration with the head of the Justice Department grows.

The report from special counsel Robert Hur ultimately cleared Biden of any charges stemming from his handling of classified documents that were found at Biden’s think tank and his home. But Hur’s explanation for not bringing charges — that Biden would have persuaded the jury that he was a forgetful old man — upended the presidential campaign and infuriated the White House.

Biden and his closest advisers believe Hur went well beyond his purview and was gratuitous and misleading in his descriptions, according to those two people, who were granted anonymity to speak freely. And they put part of the blame on Garland, who they say should have demanded edits to Hur’s report, including around the descriptions of Biden’s faltering memory.

In White House meetings, aides have questioned why Garland felt the need to appoint a special counsel in the first place, though Biden has publicly said he supported the decision.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/09/white-house-frustration-with-garland-grows-00140813

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White House frustration with Garland grows (Original Post) Polybius Feb 2024 OP
I'm thinking Garland will be retiring, Bayard Feb 2024 #1
The sooner the better. comradebillyboy Feb 2024 #2
Amen. And if the election falls right for Biden, there's OnDoutside Feb 2024 #4
yes please nt et tu Feb 2024 #12
2 words: Sally Yates onetexan Feb 2024 #20
Don't really want to throw her to wolves. Silent Type Feb 2024 #29
How about a promotion for Jack Smith Mr.Bee Feb 2024 #14
Post removed Post removed Feb 2024 #15
There is no "DU nannybot." None. There are only DU members and 2 owners/Admins... Hekate Feb 2024 #19
The quotable quote from the article - DURHAM D Feb 2024 #3
Hard to argue with that. OnDoutside Feb 2024 #5
Why we've had nothing but repuke independent counsels The Unmitigated Gall Feb 2024 #7
Exactly. It's time for Democrats to go scorched earth total war and no holds barred! OrlandoDem2 Feb 2024 #9
Absolutely. hadEnuf Feb 2024 #10
Amen to that. Don't always bring a knife.. N/T AloeVera Feb 2024 #31
Was Biden Rebl2 Feb 2024 #13
I've always said Garland is the wrong man for the job. Novara Feb 2024 #6
Thank the gods the republicans held up his nomination to the Supreme Court! Barry Markson Feb 2024 #8
I doubt he'd be worse than Neil Gorsuch. ShazzieB Feb 2024 #24
Too late to Mme. Defarge Feb 2024 #11
What? Does this mean it is now allowed on DU to criticize Garland without alerts and vitriolic replies? PSPS Feb 2024 #16
Doh! Ponietz Feb 2024 #17
Curious, isn't it? hueymahl Feb 2024 #22
I wish they did not. Yes, we Democrats bend backwards but we should be proud that we question everything Feb 2024 #18
In his attempt to appear fair, he picked a GOP tool Novara Feb 2024 #23
Correct... agingdem Feb 2024 #28
As it should. KPN Feb 2024 #21
It makes me wonder what kind of Supreme Court Justice Garland would have been... Martin68 Feb 2024 #25
Well, better than Gorsuch Polybius Feb 2024 #26
Always been weak sauce LiberalLovinLug Feb 2024 #27
Soon, we need to quit bashing Garland and Hur (though deserved) and start concentrating on winning 2024. Silent Type Feb 2024 #30
Garland is too conservative, still thinks that he should be a member of the US Supreme Court or that he's SWBTATTReg Feb 2024 #32
Right wing want this. So I must ask PlutosHeart Feb 2024 #33
I'm guessing PJB "supported the decision" Not having a clue at the Cha Feb 2024 #34

OnDoutside

(20,246 posts)
4. Amen. And if the election falls right for Biden, there's
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 04:41 PM
Feb 2024

zero reason not to cut loose and bring profound changes in the following 2 years (my gut feeling is the House is heading back blue, and I remain stubbornly hopeful to get at least 50-50 in the Senate).

Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #2)

Hekate

(92,596 posts)
19. There is no "DU nannybot." None. There are only DU members and 2 owners/Admins...
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 12:04 AM
Feb 2024

So what happened was that someone took exception to whatever it was you said and Alerted on it. Then it went to a Jury, composed of a random selection of DU members, who decided whether you had violated Terms of Service.

No nannybots. Just members.

DURHAM D

(32,683 posts)
3. The quotable quote from the article -
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 04:36 PM
Feb 2024
“What Democrats do is they bend over backwards not to look partisan, and then they end up hiring people that are partisan but in the other direction,” said a Biden donor, granted anonymity to speak freely about the top law enforcement official in the country. “There’s no question in my mind that the villain here is Merrick Garland.”


OrlandoDem2

(2,137 posts)
9. Exactly. It's time for Democrats to go scorched earth total war and no holds barred!
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 05:54 PM
Feb 2024

We’ve gotta win this election and we will need to get down and dirty to do it.

Novara

(6,010 posts)
6. I've always said Garland is the wrong man for the job.
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 04:52 PM
Feb 2024

Been saying it for years. He made me think twice for a little while when he appointed Jack Smith, but this bending over backwards to appear fair means he's doing the GOP's work for them.

We all knew Hur was a really shitty choice for this.

 

Barry Markson

(280 posts)
8. Thank the gods the republicans held up his nomination to the Supreme Court!
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 05:12 PM
Feb 2024

I can only imagine how he'd rule.

ShazzieB

(17,277 posts)
24. I doubt he'd be worse than Neil Gorsuch.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 10:44 AM
Feb 2024

That's who got the seat that should have gone to Garland. And TSF would have only gotten to appoint 2 justices, not 3. (Still 2 too many, but still.) We might have ended up with Garland, Gorsuch and Beer Boy but not gotten stuck with the Handmaid. Maybe not tons better, but not worse, either, imo.

Reading this article was an eye opener for me. I have not been happy with some of Garland's decisions, but reading this article has made me see things in an even more negative light. I am still hopeful there will be a trial in time for the American people to know that one of the candidates for potus is a convicted felon, but it's turning out to be more of a nail biter than it needs to be.

Biden picked Garland as his attorney general with the stated desire to restore a semblance of independence at the Department of Justice that he and others believed was lost under Donald Trump.

*snip*

“Your loyalty is not to me,” Biden said. “You won’t work for me. You are not the president or the vice president’s lawyer.”

Democrats close to Biden fear Garland has become too consumed by that instruction to appear impartial.


It does sound like he's been trying so hard not to look biased in Biden's favor that he's ended up going too far on the other direcction. Le sigh.

PSPS

(13,798 posts)
16. What? Does this mean it is now allowed on DU to criticize Garland without alerts and vitriolic replies?
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 07:49 PM
Feb 2024

I've never understood the veneration and bestowing of sainthood upon garland here.

question everything

(48,159 posts)
18. I wish they did not. Yes, we Democrats bend backwards but we should be proud that we
Sat Feb 10, 2024, 09:40 PM
Feb 2024

did not politicize the issue. Biden will have plenty of opportunities to show that he is alert and knows what he is doing and saying, with the occasional senior moment that many have.

Garland could not, should not have told Hur how to conduct the investigation. And had he told him to leave the comments about Biden’s memory, it would have backfired and magnified.

Novara

(6,010 posts)
23. In his attempt to appear fair, he picked a GOP tool
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 10:32 AM
Feb 2024

Bent over backwards so far that he ended up on the other side.

Of course he was hands-off. I have to give him credit for that. But time and time again he makes poor choices. I can't remember without looking it up, but one of his first decisions was to shield the felony factory from accountability on something - maybe it was immunity from the E. Jean Carroll issue? Too lazy to look it up.

Maybe when Biden appointed him he told him to make sure he doesn't ever appear partisan. But that backfired.

I guess we should feel lucky that he didn't pick a GOP tool instead of Jack Smith.

agingdem

(8,160 posts)
28. Correct...
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 02:21 PM
Feb 2024

Garland (the AG) is not the president's lawyer...and regardless of the Garland rage machine, he had no choice but to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Biden, the sitting president..and unlike Bill Barr's cover Trump's ass "nothing to see here" Mueller Report, he could not edit Hur's final report without the screaming monkeys loosing their shit...

I personally think Robert Hur committed professional suicide, his reputation in the crapper...(however, I do suspect Hur is now on the MAGA short list for lead speaker at their next KKK get-together) ...if Hur was not well known before, he sure as hell is now but not in a good way, forever tied to Trump...

LiberalLovinLug

(14,252 posts)
27. Always been weak sauce
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 02:20 PM
Feb 2024

Just the fact that he didn't even want to investigate Jan 6th until compelled to by a Republican, Liz Cheney, and her House investigation and hearings.

Silent Type

(4,738 posts)
30. Soon, we need to quit bashing Garland and Hur (though deserved) and start concentrating on winning 2024.
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 02:54 PM
Feb 2024

SWBTATTReg

(22,828 posts)
32. Garland is too conservative, still thinks that he should be a member of the US Supreme Court or that he's
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 04:14 PM
Feb 2024

been slighted in some manner. How does one go stabbing his own party in the back and not covering his Boss' back from Hur's comments, that were really not needed in the report. They didn't do this w/ tRUMP's thousands of secret documents in his resort, so why the difference in treatment between tRUMP and Pres. Biden? Why?

PlutosHeart

(1,391 posts)
33. Right wing want this. So I must ask
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 04:36 PM
Feb 2024

WHO okayed this report to go out" Did Garland even see it? All of it?
We know there is much sloppiness in government and for a moment to slip this through in its form would not surprise me.
It is Garland who went to get Jack. I suspect for the complicated international issues involved as well as the political pressures.
Media and the public have failed in not asking this questions and to go to the complete dissection of this.

Cha

(300,941 posts)
34. I'm guessing PJB "supported the decision" Not having a clue at the
Sun Feb 11, 2024, 04:36 PM
Feb 2024

time that Fucking Hur would be a GD Magat Asshole in his "report".

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