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BumRushDaShow

(164,449 posts)
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 04:38 AM Feb 2024

Wisconsin 'fake elector' Andrew Hitt says he was tricked into signing document claiming Trump won in 2020

Source: The Hill

02/18/24 9:59 PM ET


The former chairman of the Wisconsin Republican Party said Sunday he was “tricked” into signing documents alleging former President Trump won the 2020 election as part of the state’s “fake elector” scheme.

Andrew Hitt told Anderson Cooper in a “60 Minutes” interview that he was advised by the state GOP’s legal counsel to sign the documents as a contingency, in case the Trump campaign’s legal case against Wisconsin’s election integrity succeeded. Hitt said he “wasn’t comfortable with” Trump campaign attempts to toss out votes in Wisconsin, and that he didn’t believe the legal claims of widespread fraud.

“We got specific advice from our lawyers that these documents were meaningless, unless a court said they had meaning,” he said. He added that he felt pressured into signing the document, fearful that he would be held responsible in the situation that the Trump suit won and the electors were not prepared.

“It was not a safe time,” he said. “If my lawyer is right, and the whole reason Trump loses Wisconsin is because of me, I will be scared to death.” “If I knew what I knew now, I wouldn’t have done it,” he continued. “It was kept from us that there was this alternate scheme, alternate motive.”


Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4476155-wisconsin-fake-elector-andrew-hitt-says-he-was-tricked-into-signing-document-claiming-trump-won-in-2020/

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Wisconsin 'fake elector' Andrew Hitt says he was tricked into signing document claiming Trump won in 2020 (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 OP
Then that legal counsel should have an ethics charge and investigation, no_hypocrisy Feb 2024 #1
That is the one thing that has bugged me about this whole thing. Lochloosa Feb 2024 #6
Hitt is also - a lawyer. Grins Feb 2024 #27
Reminiscent of Martha Stewart claiming to be innocent of insider trading. no_hypocrisy Feb 2024 #33
Hitt Isn't Just Any Attorney - His Area of Expertise Is Supposed to Be Election Law Indykatie Feb 2024 #34
He's only saying that because he was caught. AllyCat Feb 2024 #2
BINGO! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Feb 2024 #3
Tricked? Roy Rolling Feb 2024 #4
2 things Red Mountain Feb 2024 #5
+++ Leghorn21 Feb 2024 #7
'The lawyer made me do it.' pfitz59 Feb 2024 #8
Actually, it is an excuse if advised by a lawyer. It's an affirmative defense. NutmegYankee Feb 2024 #14
Ah yes, the famous American political principle of Prairie Gates Feb 2024 #9
More nonsense from the PArty of Personal Responsibility Old Crank Feb 2024 #10
You know what? If i thought something was possibly illegal, i would ALWAYS request bluestarone Feb 2024 #11
Oh boo boo! If he's that dumb then he shouldn't be in office. I don't buy into his BS. Firestorm49 Feb 2024 #12
Did Rapunzel pay him a visit Marthe48 Feb 2024 #13
I'm not buying it. sybylla Feb 2024 #15
The repentant demeanor of the guilty tonekat Feb 2024 #16
Tricked? You could fertilize entire farm fields with that amount of bullshit. Aristus Feb 2024 #17
B.S. republianmushroom Feb 2024 #18
For being a lawyer, you would think that he knows what is in Butterflylady Feb 2024 #19
Did anyone hold your hand to the paper and physically make you sign it? Novara Feb 2024 #20
Well, yes BaronChocula Feb 2024 #21
I was afraid Trump would have me killed. That definitely is a good defense. twodogsbarking Feb 2024 #22
Nuts Jimbo S Feb 2024 #23
Andrew Hitt is the best Jimbo S Feb 2024 #24
Stupid says what to try to stay out of jail? hurple Feb 2024 #25
I will use nice words- MOMFUDSKI Feb 2024 #26
BS. He never felt "comfortable" about it. That means he knew it was a bogus move... brush Feb 2024 #28
He shouldn't need lawyers to advise him. As the State Party Chair he should have known how it worked. LiberalFighter Feb 2024 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Feb 2024 #30
If you are given a document to sign that makes certain factual claims Ocelot II Feb 2024 #31
He's right. The Republicans are all dirty tricks. LakeArenal Feb 2024 #32
A brilliant idiot genius Frank Bleeptalk Feb 2024 #35
I watched his interview with Anderson Cooper... SKKY Feb 2024 #36
And no real apology was offered by Hilt as far as I can determine. riversedge Feb 2024 #37
Nope. Again, he only feels bad for getting caught. SKKY Feb 2024 #38

no_hypocrisy

(53,978 posts)
1. Then that legal counsel should have an ethics charge and investigation,
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 04:43 AM
Feb 2024

possibly with sanctions and/or disbarment.

Lochloosa

(16,645 posts)
6. That is the one thing that has bugged me about this whole thing.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 07:39 AM
Feb 2024

Why haven't all of these "lawyers" been, at the least, sanctioned? IMO, they should all be disbarred.

Grins

(9,190 posts)
27. Hitt is also - a lawyer.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 02:54 PM
Feb 2024

How could he not see this for what it was? Just a common sense reading and you could see it for what it was - election nullification.

"Tricked?" I'm calling "Bullshit!!!

no_hypocrisy

(53,978 posts)
33. Reminiscent of Martha Stewart claiming to be innocent of insider trading.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 03:59 PM
Feb 2024

She didn't understand what was going on.

She was a licensed stockbroker before she picked up a sauté pan.

Indykatie

(3,865 posts)
34. Hitt Isn't Just Any Attorney - His Area of Expertise Is Supposed to Be Election Law
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 06:48 PM
Feb 2024

Dude is gonna end up disbarred and may go to prison if he can't negotiate a deal. By the way, the young lady that flew the false affidavits to DC is also a lawyer and works for Hitt.

AllyCat

(18,428 posts)
2. He's only saying that because he was caught.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 05:58 AM
Feb 2024

No sympathy. You don’t sign something that is “meaningless”.

Red Mountain

(2,230 posts)
5. 2 things
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 07:09 AM
Feb 2024

A. I don't believe him.

B. OK, if he's an easily manipulated fool then he should fully cooperate in the investigation and punishment of anybody upstream who participated in the scheme. His level of help in their eventual conviction should determine his severity of punishment.

pfitz59

(12,203 posts)
8. 'The lawyer made me do it.'
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:18 AM
Feb 2024

Is no excuse. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Man up and take your punishment.

NutmegYankee

(16,453 posts)
14. Actually, it is an excuse if advised by a lawyer. It's an affirmative defense.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:54 AM
Feb 2024

The lawyer can also face charges.

Prairie Gates

(6,995 posts)
9. Ah yes, the famous American political principle of
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:43 AM
Feb 2024
Sign this document or you might end up dead!

Seriously, how do these people sleep at night?

Old Crank

(6,531 posts)
10. More nonsense from the PArty of Personal Responsibility
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:58 AM
Feb 2024

I was tricked and now I'm throwing my lawyer under the bus.

bluestarone

(20,967 posts)
11. You know what? If i thought something was possibly illegal, i would ALWAYS request
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:05 AM
Feb 2024

Would you put that in writing, then everyone telling me this would have to SIGN it. otherwise forget it.

Firestorm49

(4,490 posts)
12. Oh boo boo! If he's that dumb then he shouldn't be in office. I don't buy into his BS.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 10:13 AM
Feb 2024

“I didn’t mean to do it mommy” The head of the WI GOP? F…k him!

Of course, the WI AG has done next to nothing at all to prosecute lawbreakers in what could have been the overthrow of America. In my opinion he’s just as bad. Sorry for sullying one of our own, but Josh Kaul is spineless.

sybylla

(8,655 posts)
15. I'm not buying it.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 11:09 AM
Feb 2024

I get the fear. I'm sure that was real. The rest is just a giant steaming pile to cover the truth.

He'll need a whole bunch of evidence to back that up. If he was really scared, there'd be recordings, emails, and text messages he's sharing with prosecutors and reporters.

Until then, nothing to see here.

Aristus

(71,450 posts)
17. Tricked? You could fertilize entire farm fields with that amount of bullshit.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 11:28 AM
Feb 2024

A contingency? It never occurred to him that he could have signed after Trump won the case? Maybe he knew that was never going to happen. In which case, he knowingly committed election fraud by signing while the case was still in court.

Butterflylady

(4,584 posts)
19. For being a lawyer, you would think that he knows what is in
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 12:17 PM
Feb 2024

The constitution. I'm sure they had a course on constitutional law. he was in fear for his family just doesn't wash. He knew dam well the document was illegal.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
20. Did anyone hold your hand to the paper and physically make you sign it?
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 12:20 PM
Feb 2024

No? Then shut the fuck up.

Jimbo S

(3,036 posts)
24. Andrew Hitt is the best
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 01:43 PM
Feb 2024

thing to happen to the Wisconsin Democratic party.

Hitt is the former GOP chair until he recently stepped down.

I've lost count of the statewide electoral victories the last six years, I only have four, I mean two hands to count.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
28. BS. He never felt "comfortable" about it. That means he knew it was a bogus move...
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 02:58 PM
Feb 2024

and, btw, one of the dumbest things ever... signing fake EC ballots to Congress and down in history for forever.

Don't come up with the "tricked" excuse now that you're charged.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
29. He shouldn't need lawyers to advise him. As the State Party Chair he should have known how it worked.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 02:59 PM
Feb 2024

Anyone that was elected as an Elector should know what is required and expected.

Each party have Electors ready to go when election results are decided. They would receive notice to show up at the same place each election to perform their duty. Trying to perform that function in a different location should be a red alert. And the document they sign is not the official one.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Ocelot II

(128,621 posts)
31. If you are given a document to sign that makes certain factual claims
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 03:19 PM
Feb 2024

but that will be used only if certain contingencies actually occur and that would make the claims true, what you do is hang on to it, sign it only if those contingencies actually occur, and only then hand it over to whoever intends to use it. If, however, you've signed and handed in a document containing attestations that are false because the contingency never occurred, don't whine and claim you were duped if you get in trouble for signing a fake document.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
32. He's right. The Republicans are all dirty tricks.
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 03:24 PM
Feb 2024

Anyone who stood with trump after babies in cages is one of “them”. He stood long and hard until he got caught.
He wasn’t the head of the WI Repuke Party thinking ethically or legally.

Frank Bleeptalk

(5 posts)
35. A brilliant idiot genius
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 07:01 PM
Feb 2024

For reading at a 5th grade level he plans like a pro. Hitt was tricked by an idiot,

SKKY

(12,728 posts)
36. I watched his interview with Anderson Cooper...
Mon Feb 19, 2024, 09:43 PM
Feb 2024

...he's just trying to nuance his way out of "find out" as quickly as possible. I didn't find him believable, and to be honest, he only seems contrite in the fact he was caught.

SKKY

(12,728 posts)
38. Nope. Again, he only feels bad for getting caught.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 06:40 AM
Feb 2024

And to be honest, he seemed fairly arrogant in that as well.

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