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BumRushDaShow

(167,165 posts)
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:38 AM Feb 2024

Trump is racking up $2.6 million in interest for every month that he hasn't paid his $355 million fine

Source: Business Insider

Feb 20, 2024, 11:25 PM EST


Former President Donald Trump has been ordered to pay interest for the $355 million in penalties from the New York case against him, and it's likely already added about $100 million to his total fine. Judge Arthur Engoron ruled on Friday that Trump's total amount owed would also include a 9% per annum interest accrued from as early as March 2019. If the former president paid in full today, it should cost him around $450 million.

Trump's total fine stems from three different penalties that were dated separately. The first involves $168 million that Trump saved in interest through fraud from March 2019. He will have to pay the 9% per annum interest for that amount, in line with state law, resulting in an extra $75 million so far.

The second penalty is over the $126 million profit that Trump received from selling the Old Post Office in Washington, DC, which Engoron ruled was done using financial documents containing false information. Trump will have to pay interest on this dating back to May 2022, which is currently $20 million. The third is $60 million from Trump's profits in the sale of Ferry Point, a golf course in the Bronx, which prosecutors said he pulled off by inflating his assets. The interest on this penalty began in June 2023, and so far costs Trump around $3.5 million.

Trump now stands to lose about $32 million from interest per year if he does not clear his $355 million disgorgement. That's about $87,500 per day, $1 million every 12 days, or $2.66 million per month. In a Friday post on X celebrating Engoron's ruling, New York Attorney General Letitia James cited $450 million in penalties and interest. "Trump, Donald Trump, Jr., Eric Trump, and his former executives must pay over $450 million in disgorgement and interest," she wrote.

Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-interest-355-million-fine-fraud-new-york-engoron-2024-2

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Trump is racking up $2.6 million in interest for every month that he hasn't paid his $355 million fine (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 OP
Doesn't he only have 30 days to either pay the tine or put the fine in escrow for an appeal? Novara Feb 2024 #1
From what I heard EYESORE 9001 Feb 2024 #2
Heh. Novara Feb 2024 #4
He can put up a "surety bond" (as I believe it's called) BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #7
And doesn't a judge get to decide whether that is acceptable, and how much? Novara Feb 2024 #8
I expect so BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #11
Putin has that much.... SergeStorms Feb 2024 #14
Can he though? GregariousGroundhog Feb 2024 #16
Remember that when he went storming out of NY and moved his "official residence" to FL BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #17
It can't be from a New York bank FakeNoose Feb 2024 #30
He changed his residency back in 2019 and no longer "lives" there BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #38
Better start pumping out that merchandise... EarthFirst Feb 2024 #3
He's negotiating... 2naSalit Feb 2024 #5
Very likely. Quid pro quo is back on the menu boys. FailureToCommunicate Feb 2024 #9
Time for... 2naSalit Feb 2024 #10
Putin may have homegirl Feb 2024 #22
As of this AM, they've raised $820k on GoFundMe after 5 days. Normally, that'd be a huge haul. TheRickles Feb 2024 #6
Yes. It'll pay the interest for a month or two until he gets the $4 billion from the shady Truth Social Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #13
I've read InstantGratification Feb 2024 #27
Yeah I heard that Truth Social was going under gab13by13 Feb 2024 #29
But would Deutsche Bank let him borrow against it? I think they have let him put up his discarded tissues for Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #37
That's a lot of sneakers to sell! dutch777 Feb 2024 #12
Trump doesn't care how much he owes, and never has. Chainfire Feb 2024 #15
What if he just doesn't pay his fine? zanana1 Feb 2024 #18
The NY AG indicated what she would do BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #19
Thank you. zanana1 Feb 2024 #20
Most werlcome! BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #21
The sneaker grift Mz Pip Feb 2024 #23
Trump has no intention whatsoever Mr.Bill Feb 2024 #24
Way back, the judge already put someone in place to manage the organization BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #25
I thought I read the judge Mr.Bill Feb 2024 #31
The bans (his and his sons) were relatively short BumRushDaShow Feb 2024 #39
Yes, I have heard that also. n/t Mr.Bill Feb 2024 #40
I think they changed the 9% to 2%. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #26
I had posted to that effect yesterday InstantGratification Feb 2024 #28
Ooooohhhh! How nice! Thanks for the info. Scrivener7 Feb 2024 #35
It would have been ironic that they would lower the interest rate Mr.Bill Feb 2024 #36
That makes me feel good Mysterian Feb 2024 #32
PHAIJ BaronChocula Feb 2024 #33
Should be no problem for a billionaire IronLionZion Feb 2024 #34

Novara

(6,115 posts)
4. Heh.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:50 AM
Feb 2024

Early morning schadenfreude is a wonderful thing.

I believe the judge CAN determine that he only has to pay a portion of that as "bond" for an appeal, or does that only pertain to civil lawsuits?

BumRushDaShow

(167,165 posts)
7. He can put up a "surety bond" (as I believe it's called)
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:01 AM
Feb 2024

but would have to find someone willing to guarantee that amount of $$$ and he'll need to put up whatever fee they charge to do that.

BumRushDaShow

(167,165 posts)
11. I expect so
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 08:16 AM
Feb 2024

He put up the initial (full amount) $5 million for E. Jean Carroll and may have done the same for the 2nd $83 million judgement, but for this... it will be a struggle. His ditzy lawyer claimed he was prepared to put up a $400 million bond. I also saw some trial speculation put out there about the Truth Social merge and getting $$$ from that.

SergeStorms

(20,200 posts)
14. Putin has that much....
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:48 AM
Feb 2024

in petty cash. I don't believe the source of where the money comes from is subject to public knowledge. Some greasy pal of Trump's will probably step forward and pony up the money, but it'll cost Trump (or the U.S. intelligence community) dearly. Trump would trade the country's deepest secrets for the money in a heartbeat. If he hasn't already.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,593 posts)
16. Can he though?
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:11 AM
Feb 2024

He's is banned for a couple of years from borrowing money from entities regulated by New York's Department of Financial Services. Wouldn't a bond be a type of loan?

BumRushDaShow

(167,165 posts)
17. Remember that when he went storming out of NY and moved his "official residence" to FL
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 10:46 AM
Feb 2024
https://abcnews.go.com/US/president-trump-moved-york-florida-presidential-home-security/story?id=66826563

he probably took some assets from NY to FL (that weren't already there). Plus he has golf courses and other stuff scattered around the country (and world).






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The bond is a guarantee that the full amount of the judgement will be paid if the appeals don't pan out. It's not really a loan but the person guaranteeing is on the hook for the full amount if the person being bonded skips out. If the appeal is successful, the bond company still keeps their fee.

FakeNoose

(40,730 posts)
30. It can't be from a New York bank
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:04 PM
Feb 2024

He's banned from doing business in the entire state. I think that rules out Wall Street stockbrokers too, am I right?

BumRushDaShow

(167,165 posts)
38. He changed his residency back in 2019 and no longer "lives" there
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:03 PM
Feb 2024

so he can just get some rich GOP loon or even foreigner living in Florida (his "official residence" ) to pay for it.

2naSalit

(100,980 posts)
5. He's negotiating...
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:57 AM
Feb 2024

A "deal" with pooty and the muskrat, maybe the saudis. Some group or individual will bail him out.

That is where the feds had better be on top of the transactions.

homegirl

(1,939 posts)
22. Putin may have
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 11:40 AM
Feb 2024

no further use for Donald and be OK with a twenty year sentence to Leavenworth. The American taxpayers will feed and house his useful idiot, keep him silent and Vlad can wash his hands of the entire Trump Episode!

TheRickles

(3,231 posts)
6. As of this AM, they've raised $820k on GoFundMe after 5 days. Normally, that'd be a huge haul.
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 07:57 AM
Feb 2024

But in this case it barely keeps up with interest payments, and will require years to raise the full amount (it's too early in the morning for me to do the math, but it looks like about 12 years). Maybe the sneaker sales will put him over the top - yeah, sneaker sales, that's the ticket.

Scrivener7

(58,888 posts)
13. Yes. It'll pay the interest for a month or two until he gets the $4 billion from the shady Truth Social
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 09:09 AM
Feb 2024

merger of two valueless companies.

27. I've read
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:31 PM
Feb 2024

that the 4 billion is a paper transaction, not cash. His stock holdings would be worth about 4 billion. Also, he can't sell the stock right away. He has to hold it for at least 6 months before he could sell. In the meantime, there are still investigations into the company that could tank the valuation. I would imagine a guilty verdict in the hush money case would impact the stock price too. It's too early for Donnie Dimwit to start counting that money.

gab13by13

(31,626 posts)
29. Yeah I heard that Truth Social was going under
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:54 PM
Feb 2024

and now it is going public and making trump billions. Who is doing the investigation, Garland?

Scrivener7

(58,888 posts)
37. But would Deutsche Bank let him borrow against it? I think they have let him put up his discarded tissues for
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:54 PM
Feb 2024

collateral in the past.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
24. Trump has no intention whatsoever
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:13 PM
Feb 2024

of paying one penny of that fine. Will they confiscate his properties? That will be a court battle that will take five years. He will die of natural causes before anything happens.

BumRushDaShow

(167,165 posts)
25. Way back, the judge already put someone in place to manage the organization
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:18 PM
Feb 2024

They are re-doing the arrangements now that the "ban" is for 3 years. Regardless, the entity is under court supervision.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
31. I thought I read the judge
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 01:35 PM
Feb 2024

cancelled the ban because he was afraid of having the whole verdict dumped at the appeals level.

BumRushDaShow

(167,165 posts)
39. The bans (his and his sons) were relatively short
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 05:06 PM
Feb 2024

3 years for him and 2 for Eric & Jr. That was actually a low-ball from what AG James wanted - which was a permanent ban and complete disgorgement.

28. I had posted to that effect yesterday
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 12:34 PM
Feb 2024

Turns out I wasn't listening close enough to the TV. The change to 2% is for consumer/household type debts. I believe his court judgements would still stay at 9%.

To quote Montgomery Burns "Release the hounds." "Eggcellent!"

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
36. It would have been ironic that they would lower the interest rate
Wed Feb 21, 2024, 04:52 PM
Feb 2024

for a guy who was just found guilty of lying to get lower interest rates.

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